Cousins Trade Rumors

It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

All three of the 49ers 3rd Round Picks are Comp picks so they will be at the end of the round which doesn't do a lot for me. I know I will get a lot of arguments, but to me I'm not moving Cousins for anything less than 1 first round pick. Matt Ryan of all people fetched a 3rd Round Pick from the Colts last year. Even the 49ers gave up their 2nd, 3rd, 4th this year and next year's 5th in the McCaffrey deal. A late first round pick for Cousins shouldn't be out of the question. I'm not sure that Lance would bring more than a 3rd or 4th round pick right now. We need Cousins if we are going to compete for the Division this year which is wide open once Rodgers goes to the Jets. I actually agree with how Kwesi is letting this play out. We can always attempt to resign Cousins before he walks after we see how he does in year 2 of KOC's offense. If we let him walk, then we will get some comp picks and move on. We finally are in a position of Power with Cousins who has to play well for his next contract regardless of who's team he is on in 2024. Cousins is getting to that point where he doesn't want to start over with all of the coaching changes and instability he's had throughout his career. I think he wants to retire as a Viking, and I also think he knows that this Team and Coaching Staff is a great fit to maximize the rest of his playing time in the NFL and potentially win a Championship which is why he approached Kwesi with an extension proposal.  

@"TBro" said:

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

@"supafreak84" said: It's click bait based on the Florio rumor that the 49ers inquired about a Cousins trade at the Combine. It's a move that makes sense to me, but I think if it was going to happen it would have already. I'd have no problem taking Trey Lance, a 3rd this year, along with a conditional high pick next season but it's just not the way the Vikings operate. They'll hold on to Cousins until they just absolutely can't anymore 

All three of the 49ers 3rd Round Picks are Comp picks so they will be at the end of the round which doesn't do a lot for me. I know I will get a lot of arguments, but to me I'm not moving Cousins for anything less than 1 first round pick. Matt Ryan of all people fetched a 3rd Round Pick from the Colts last year. Even the 49ers gave up their 2nd, 3rd, 4th this year and next year's 5th in the McCaffrey deal. A late first round pick for Cousins shouldn't be out of the question. I'm not sure that Lance would bring more than a 3rd or 4th round pick right now. We need Cousins if we are going to compete for the Division this year which is wide open once Rodgers goes to the Jets. I actually agree with how Kwesi is letting this play out. We can always attempt to resign Cousins before he walks after we see how he does in year 2 of KOC's offense. If we let him walk, then we will get some comp picks and move on. We finally are in a position of Power with Cousins who has to play well for his next contract regardless of who's team he is on in 2024. Cousins is getting to that point where he doesn't want to start over with all of the coaching changes and instability he's had throughout his career. I think he wants to retire as a Viking, and I also think he knows that this Team and Coaching Staff is a great fit to maximize the rest of his playing time in the NFL and potentially win a Championship which is why he approached Kwesi with an extension proposal.  

I don’t see how it logistically works to trade Cousins even
to a team that he wants to go to.  There’s
a lot of moving pieces to figure out, Cousins would have to be an integral part
of the conversation, and if it falls through that’s a subpar relationship for
2023 we have to live with.  I think we’d
have to be pretty heavily compensated to move on from Cousins without having a
starting option in house, and I’m not sure Lance is really much of an asset in
a trade.  I feel like if he’s your bridge
QB, that’s much more of a wish and a prayer than Cousins is.

He's 100% not being traded in 2023. 

Trey Lance is garbage. Way too raw. The dude played hardly any football at North Dakota State. And the 49ers moved up and took him #3 overall. Invested a bunch of draft capital to do it. 

If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

@"MaroonBells" said
If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

This makes a lot of sense. I would think it has to be coupled with a trade (Z, Cook, Hunter etc) to restore draft picks.

@"Caactorvike" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

@"MaroonBells" said
If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

This makes a lot of sense. I would think it has to be coupled with a trade (Z, Cook, Hunter etc) to restore draft picks.

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

imo its to much,  if the niners thought he was worth a shit they wouldnt be giving up so soon on him.

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

imo its to much,  if the niners thought he was worth a shit they wouldnt be giving up so soon on him.

I agree. WAY too soon to give up on this kid if you believe he can come around, should be a huge red flag. I remember you being one of the few that were down on Lance as a prospect when he came out because he didn't play enough college football.....looks like that was correct.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"MaroonBells" said: If the Vikings talked to the 49ers at the combine it was much more likely about Lance than it was about Cousins. People always want to throw Cousins in there because Shanahan loves him. But no 13-win team is going to trade their Pro Bowl QB for an unknown. But send a couple of picks for an unknown to develop under Cousins? I could see that.

Rumor has it the 49ers are asking for a 2nd and a 4th. It makes some sense. Spend big to move up for one of the QBs du jour this year (unlikely), stay put and take Hooker? Or spend small for one of the QBs du jour two years ago, who's actually three years younger than Hooker? Not a horrible idea.

I don’t like Lance, but could gey on board a 2nd, 4th type deal. 

imo its to much,  if the niners thought he was worth a shit they wouldnt be giving up so soon on him.

I agree. WAY too soon to give up on this kid if you believe he can come around, should be a huge red flag. I remember you being one of the few that were down on Lance as a prospect when he came out because he didn't play enough college football.....looks like that was correct.

That was part of my concern,   but the primary was his running to set up his pass,  I bang the table for mobility from a QB to be successful,   but that doesn't mean I want a running QB,  just one that doesn't stay in 1 spot in the pocket like KC does.  I never saw the arm talent from the few Lance highlights that went along with his gaudy numbers.  College teams feared his legs more than his arm and the coverage that he faced at ND showed that.

He is still a hell of an athletic kid and could maybe be something in the NFL,  but I think he is still a very raw player,  and I doubt he is a year away from starting.

id be really excited to get rid of best or 2nd QB in the NFC, under any honest assessment, just to do it. seems a bit -whatever word im allowed to use to indicate the opposite of smart. 

but hey, we could bring in a 50% comp and more INT than TD type qb to complain about for the next 2-3 years. 

a guy you like is available in draft. take him. stash him for however long you think you need to. now, id consider that smart. 

@"PurpleCrush" said:

Not sure show credibluothis account is, but apparently they've hit on a few things recently. I will say this about any potential swap - IF it were to come to fruition, SF would definitely have to add to that trade scenario. Sure, you're getting a kid with high upside, but he's barely played at all, including college, he's coming off a fractured ankle, and two years have already been shaved off his rookie deal. I also wonder how JJ would react to going from a guy in Cousins whose helped him set all types of records, to an unproven commodity.

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RUMOR:
The #Vikings and #49ers have had preliminary discussions about a Kirk Cousins/Trey Lance swap.

The Vikings aren’t confident Cousins is capable of leading them to a Super Bowl. Meanwhile, the 49ers believe that Cousins could be the missing piece just as Stafford was for the #Rams.

The salary cap implications of a potential deal remain a hurdle.

I think the odds Kirk gets traded hover somewhere around 1%, but I will say the narrative on this forum about "Jefferson would hate to be getting thrown to by (insert QB who's not Kirk)" is VASTLY overblown. JJ is a made guy. He's going to become the highest paid WR in the history of the NFL. Would he like to pad stats? Sure. But he's set regardless and by all indications is a team player. He seems smart enough to understand that finding a new QB is a solid longterm play.

I don’t think it makes a lot of sense to go after Lance for that
sweet rookie deal.  He’s already got 2 of
4 years on the books.  You’re going to
pay a ton for Kirk in 2023 ($48.5M) even if you trade him, unless you can
figure out how to renegotiate so that the 49ers eat a lot of it.  You’re basically getting one year of cap
savings in year 4, and then the 5th year option is a small discount.  I feel like I would rather draft a guy if
possible.  So it’s like a 1 or 1.5 year
window.  That said, you’re not locked in
with him for a long time, so you could be looking for another rookie to draft
in the meantime.

Kirk  for Lance has to have a lot of draft capital coming back with Lance.  And I'm not talking about late 3rd rounders either.   This move is essentially handing the niners a ring,  they need to pay for that ring.  I know kc is on an expensive deal,  but its one that is a bargain since the Vikings will still end up carrying most of that hit so that has to be worth something.   I wouldnt be surprised to hear that there is a deal on place for the niners first and its up to the Vikes to pull the trigger.  Would maybe explain why they redid his deal to lower the cap hit when they didnt need to yet.

@"JimmyinSD" said: Kirk  for Lance has to have a lot of draft capital coming back with Lance.  And I'm not talking about late 3rd rounders either.   This move is essentially handing the niners a ring,  they need to pay for that ring.  I know kc is on an expensive deal,  but its one that is a bargain since the Vikings will still end up carrying most of that hit so that has to be worth something.   I wouldnt be surprised to hear that there is a deal on place for the niners first and its up to the Vikes to pull the trigger.  Would maybe explain why they redid his deal to lower the cap hit when they didnt need to yet.

This isn't about Kirk for Lance. It's about picks for Lance.