Would you trade a 3rd for Lance?

First, yes I would consider it for sure if I were the Vikings. Secondly, I REALLY doubt that is the case. Lance is 22 years old. Miami walked away with the No. 12 pick in 2021, first-round selections in 2022 and 2023 and a third-round pick in 2022 so San Fran could get Lance. I don't think he's going anywhere in 2023 and certainly not for a 3rd round pick. 

If Purdy gets the 49ers to the Super Bowl with all that the Eagles are going to throw at him, he's their guy 100%. And I wouldn't blame them. So that might make the 49ers a little more willing to part with Lance sooner rather than later. I just don't see how some other organization won't give up more compensation. Its the NFL and GMs get desperate and stupid with QBs. 

I didn't think he was worth a first to begin with,  so no,  I dont think he is worth a third now.  His primary weapon is his legs,  he is not a pass first type of player so I don't see a long career for him.  This team has to many holes to waste a day 2 pick on a middling QB prospect.  I thought all along he was a day 2 prospect but knew somebody would over pay,  the fact that they gave up so much and would now take so little says its true.  If I am wrong then they would settle for so little.  Either way I doubt he gets moved,  especially for a 3rd round pick.   They don't control JG and would want some competition for Purdy.

It would be a waste of a third round pick. Fair chance of finding a potential starter with a third round pick.

Yes in a heartbeat.  If he was coming out in this draft he would be a 1st round pick so anything lower than that would be a win.  A lot of the comments here were similar to Josh Allen's career in Wyoming.  Big arm and legs but erratic, poor accuracy.  There is no reason to believe he wouldn't have the Niners in the same position they are in now with Purdy.  

Somehow this guy was good enough for Shanahan (maybe the best coach not named Reid) but not for posters here.

@"Skodin" said: Yes in a heartbeat.  If he was coming out in this draft he would be a 1st round pick so anything lower than that would be a win.  A lot of the comments here were similar to Josh Allen's career in Wyoming.  Big arm and legs but erratic, poor accuracy.  There is no reason to believe he wouldn't have the Niners in the same position they are in now with Purdy.  

Somehow this guy was good enough for Shanahan (maybe the best coach not named Reid) but not for posters here.

Kwesi gives away draft picks like they are Halloween Candy. Why not a 3rd?

I agree that the 49ers will hang on to him with everything they already gave up to go get him. Purdy and Lance will battle it out to see who starts next season. Especially if he comes back down to earth against the Eagles. We will see. I keep waiting for him to falter and he keeps proving me and everyone else wrong. 

Whoever it is, I think the Vikings need to take a swing on someone because adding a QB likely won't come out of the draft. We can not continue this cycle of not having a continuation plan at the position and allowing Cousins and his agent, for all intents and purposes, to hold us hostage. That's got to end. So whether that's taking a swing on Lance, Zack Wilson, or someone else... it's time to roll the dice and see if KOC can develop a young QB. 

@"HappyViking" said:

@"Skodin" said: Yes in a heartbeat.  If he was coming out in this draft he would be a 1st round pick so anything lower than that would be a win.  A lot of the comments here were similar to Josh Allen's career in Wyoming.  Big arm and legs but erratic, poor accuracy.  There is no reason to believe he wouldn't have the Niners in the same position they are in now with Purdy.  

Somehow this guy was good enough for Shanahan (maybe the best coach not named Reid) but not for posters here.

The only reason I don't believe the 9ers would be in the NFCC game if Lance was QB is that their offense was middle of the pack or worse until Purdy became starter.  Jimmy G was a noticable upgrade over Trey, and I think Purdy is a noticable upgrade over JG.  Purdy faced a very tough Dallas D and didn't back down - not many "deer in the headlights" moments from that guy.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"HappyViking" said:

@"Skodin" said: Yes in a heartbeat.  If he was coming out in this draft he would be a 1st round pick so anything lower than that would be a win.  A lot of the comments here were similar to Josh Allen's career in Wyoming.  Big arm and legs but erratic, poor accuracy.  There is no reason to believe he wouldn't have the Niners in the same position they are in now with Purdy.  

Somehow this guy was good enough for Shanahan (maybe the best coach not named Reid) but not for posters here.

The only reason I don't believe the 9ers would be in the NFCC game if Lance was QB is that their offense was middle of the pack or worse until Purdy became starter.  Jimmy G was a noticable upgrade over Trey, and I think Purdy is a noticable upgrade over JG.  Purdy faced a very tough Dallas D and didn't back down - not many "deer in the headlights" moments from that guy.

Lance only played one full game and a short time in the 2nd game before he suffered a season ending injury.

The Bears loss is Week 1 had torrential rain and Soldier Field was a mud pit.  Hard to glean anything from that game when the field conditions were terrible.  He threw 3 passes in Week 2 before getting hurt.

Lance is still an intriguing prospect. I'd have no problem giving up a 3rd round pick to acquire him.  

if this was Trey Lance who played college football at Indiana State would this board talk him up as much?

SF will get more than a 3rd round pick if for no other reason than they're responsible for the majority of the Cap hit on Lance's contract.

I would trade away our 3rd round pick for him. That pick is #88 overall. It would be worth it just to have a back up QB on the roster on a relatively cheap contract for at least the next 2 seasons.

Take a look at the players drafted in the 3rd round from the 2017 & 2018 drafts. Less than half are still in the league.

@"bigbone62" said: if this was Trey Lance who played college football at Indiana State would this board talk him up as much?

@"supafreak84" said: Whoever it is, I think the Vikings need to take a swing on someone because adding a QB likely won't come out of the draft. We can not continue this cycle of not having a continuation plan at the position and allowing Cousins and his agent, for all intents and purposes, to hold us hostage. That's got to end. So whether that's taking a swing on Lance, Zack Wilson, or someone else... it's time to roll the dice and see if KOC can develop a young QB. 

He's probably worth taking a flyer with a 3rd round pick more so than a guy like, say, Kellen Mond.

@"Skodin" said:

@"bigbone62" said: if this was Trey Lance who played college football at Indiana State would this board talk him up as much?

Yes, he was drafted 3# for a reason by a staff that has hit a lot of home runs on player personnel evaluation.

@"Knucklehead" said: SF will get more than a 3rd round pick if for no other reason than they're responsible for the majority of the Cap hit on Lance's contract.

I would trade away our 3rd round pick for him. That pick is #88 overall. It would be worth it just to have a back up QB on the roster on a relatively cheap contract for at least the next 2 seasons.

Take a look at the players drafted in the 3rd round from the 2017 & 2018 drafts. Less than half are still in the league.

I can't help but think this article is full of shit. One, because I don't see the 49ers trading him at all, and two, because I don't think there's a single team in the NFL who wouldn't eagerly send a 3rd rounder to the 49ers for Lance. It's not like this is Zach Wilson, who went out there and proved he couldn't play in the NFL. There's still a great deal of upside surrounding Lance. 

If the 49ers are willing to trade Lance for a 3rd round pick (I doubt it) I would be highly skeptical of what you're getting. He has continued value to the 49ers even if he were to be the primary backup to Purdy. They just saw first-hand what QB depth can do for you. Aside from that you also have the trade package they gave up to add Lance, its a sunk cost, but NFL teams don't view it that way. 

Basically, the concept of adding a QB with upside is intriguing. If the 49ers are willing to move Lance for a 3rd round pick I would tend to worry they have good reason to believe he won't develop since there is no value in that deal for them. 

On Zach Wilson, it's my opinion that we don't know yet if he is a bust until he is put in the right situation to succeed. The Jets hired a defensive guy as their head coach, the supporting cast has been suspect and injured, and they just fired their offensive coordinator for his ineptitude. You hear it all the time relating to rookie quarterbacks that where they land situationally is the biggest precursor for future success. Wilson's situation has not been good, granted he hasn't helped matters either. But this is the kind if high upside guy you would want to take a shot on. Let him come in behind Cousins, no pressure to start, and let him sit and learn behind a veteran quarterback on how to be a pro with a real offensive minded head coach who played the position bringing him along. There might not be a better situation for Zach Wilson then in Minnesota 

@"supafreak84" said: On Zach Wilson, it's my opinion that we don't know yet if he is a bust until he is put in the right situation to succeed. The Jets hired a defensive guy as their head coach, the supporting cast has been suspect and injured, and they just fired their offensive coordinator for his ineptitude. You hear it all the time relating to rookie quarterbacks that where they land situationally is the biggest precursor for future success. Wilson's situation has not been good, granted he hasn't helped matters either. But this is the kind if high upside guy you would want to take a shot on. Let him come in behind Cousins, no pressure to start, and let him sit and learn behind a veteran quarterback on how to be a pro with a real offensive minded head coach who played the position bringing him along. There might not be a better situation for Zach Wilson then in Minnesota 

its not the on field failures that I have against Wilson,  I was all for trying to draft him,  but the immaturity he has shown at times leads me to wonder if Kirk would even waste his time with the kid or would it be like the big old dog whipping the shit out of the puppy and the puppy just wanders away?  some damn good college QBs have failed at the pro level simply because they never humbled themselves enough to learn the pro game and take advice from people that were less physically gifted than themselves, or even less accomplished in college.  I said it before,  if they get a chance to talk to him and he says the right things when pressed a bit on his questionable comments or actions,  then take a flyer on him at the right price,  if he gets defensive or tries to blame others.....we then I think you have your answer right there and it would be a hard pass for me.

@"supafreak84" said: On Zach Wilson, it's my opinion that we don't know yet if he is a bust until he is put in the right situation to succeed. The Jets hired a defensive guy as their head coach, the supporting cast has been suspect and injured, and they just fired their offensive coordinator for his ineptitude. You hear it all the time relating to rookie quarterbacks that where they land situationally is the biggest precursor for future success. Wilson's situation has not been good, granted he hasn't helped matters either. But this is the kind if high upside guy you would want to take a shot on. Let him come in behind Cousins, no pressure to start, and let him sit and learn behind a veteran quarterback on how to be a pro with a real offensive minded head coach who played the position bringing him along. There might not be a better situation for Zach Wilson then in Minnesota 

Agreed, and I feel the same way about what this MN situation could do for Lance as well. IF KOC gave me the thumbs up for one of them, says I could work with that - I might be tempted if the price wasn't crazy.