Some Draft Grades:

I think overall it was a C draft. We didn't get fair value in a huge trade down to a division rival where they drafted probably the best playmaker in this draft (Williams) while we drafted a safety...a position I consider to be a low impact position. I'd never draft a first round safety unless they were a special talent. We traded out of our pick with a lot of highly rated players still on the board, including the receiver the Lions nabbed in the trade up. We were lucky that Booth was still on the board in the second round but we had to trade up to nab him AFTER TRADING WAY DOWN AGAIN WITH A DIVISION RIVAL! I might still have PTSD after taking Mac Alexander a few years ago, also a second round Clemson corner who busted. Booth has a lot of the same characteristics...just hope he's better. Ingram was a reach, but he has some talent and fits a need. Asamoah is an undersized LB who's immediate value is probably as a special teams guy. Evans will compete at a corner group that needs talent. The NC running back could stick as a 3rd down specialist. The rest of the picks face an uphill battle making the roster. 

Like RS mentioned, the draft is not only about the players selected, but how you got them and did you maximize your draft capital. All that comes into the equation when grading. I think Kwesi fell way short in that regard and to me the players selected are low impact players. Safety, a cornerback (injured), and a reach at guard were our first three picks. That to me is why this draft was no better then a C grade 

Special K™️ wins the award for trades
alienating his fan base, congrats…!  ;) :p  

I give a B-. Everyone has hammered the trade issues so no need to keep going down that road. Overall, I liked the selections a lot. 
Cine is a stud and will pop off the screen once he’s up to speed. What was interesting on his tape was you could see QB’s avoided throwing his way. That’s a good sign for a safety. I would have like Cine 15 picks earlier. 
Booth - what an opportunity. I sure didn’t expect him to be there. Easy selection and has the traits to be a very good starting corner in the NFL. So I see the first two picks as starters, probably sooner than later. 
As for the rest, I felt they did a good job except for the Ingram pick. He has talent and can become a starter, but there are known risks with him that would have had me waiting at least another round to pick him. A few evaluated him at that spot, but the majority had him going between 3rd and 5th. I hope he works out, but I would have gone a different route.

For all the crazy trade issues, Kwesi fought through and added some real talent to the team. I’m optimistic.

 Minnesota Vikings: C+ Grade

Goals Entering the 2022 NFL Draft: The Vikings have just two picks between Nos. 12 and 156, so they'll likely want to trade down. Thanks to Kirk Cousins' albatross of a contract, the Vikings have several big needs, including cornerback, guard, linebacker and the interior defensive line.

2022 NFL Draft Accomplishments: Someone needs to tell the Vikings' new front office that it's a bad idea to give talented players to other teams in the division. This happened not once, but twice, as Minnesota dealt with both Detroit and Green Bay, gift wrapping Jameson Williams and Christian Watson to them, respectively.

I don't need to tell you that this will be a total disaster if both receivers live up to their potential. Making matters worse, the Vikings may not have the personnel to cover them, though Andrew Booth helps. Booth was a terrific pick in the middle of the second round, given that he was projected to be chosen in the opening frame. Lewis Cine, obtained at the end of Thursday night, was a very good pick as well.

In fact, I liked most of Minnesota's picks, giving only two of them a grade lower than a "B." The best of the non-defensive back picks was Ed Ingram, who will provide some much needed blocking for Kirk Cousins and Dalvin Cook. He, Booth and Cine are a nice trio, and the Vikings got a great haul overall, thanks to their willingness to trade down. However, they didn't get full value in the deal with the Lions, and both Williams and Watson could easily come back to haunt them for many years. I have to punish the Vikings for this reason.

To me draft grades are about as meaningless as the NFL Power
Rankings.  It's just someone's opinion and doesn't have anything to do
with the reality of what will actually happen.  Just wait it out and
you'll see who flourishes and who busts.  Just like finding out what teams
make it to the playoffs or not.  I understand it's fun to speculate, but
so many fans really get worked up over these grades of who is going to be a
good player or team or not.  It's just not for me; I'll just wait and find
out for real.

@"HappyViking" said: To me draft grades are about as meaningless as the NFL Power Rankings.  It's just someone's opinion and doesn't have anything to do with the reality of what will actually happen.  Just wait it out and you'll see who flourishes and who busts.  Just like finding out what teams make it to the playoffs or not.  I understand it's fun to speculate, but so many fans really get worked up over these grades of who is going to be a good player or team or not.  It's just not for me; I'll just wait and find out for real.

It will be interesting from the additional perspective of what the players do within the division that the Lions and Packers traded up for. This thing is going to be judged in three years and it's going to come down to what Jameson Williams, Kyle Hamilton, and Christian Watson do versus what Lewis Cine, Andrew Booth, and Ed Ingram do. If I was a betting man I'd take that first group of players as being more likely to make the bigger impact and be the better group.  

I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 

Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 

Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 

Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 

Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 

Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

Exactly. Lets see how it looks in 3 years. You've been bitching its a shit show in Minnesota with KAM. Like a broken record kind of thing. So are you willing to wait or are you one of these knee jerk alarmist like a dog with a bone? just asking. 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"supafreak84" said: I think we can all agree that Baltimore is one of the best (maybe thee best), drafting teams in the league. GM Eric Decosta said this regarding Kyle Hamilton:

"I was thinking thank God Kyle Hamilton is still on the board because he was the highest-rated player, quite honestly, and it wasn’t super close between those two,” general manager Eric DeCosta said, via the Ravens’ website. “People have asked me, ‘Would you have taken Jordan Davis?’ Yeah, we would have. Jordan Davis is an excellent football player and fits us very, very well. But as we mocked out and looked at all the different scenarios, in no scenario did we see Kyle there for us.”

The Hamilton/Cine comparison is going to be very interesting to monitor for years to come

Yes, it will be. But to be fair, it's not Hamilton/Cine, it's Hamilton/Cine, Booth. 

Yep. Two needs filled with talented players. 

Detroit and Green Bay are saying the same thing via the Vikings. So at the end of the day, like I mentioned above, when all is said and done this comparison after all the trades is going to boil down to the following ;

- Jameson Williams (whom Detroit took with our pick)
- Kyle Hamilton (whom we passed on to pick another safety with the 32nd pick)
- Christian Watson (whom Packers traded into our slot to take 

Vs

- Lewis Cine (whom we took with Detroit's pick)
- Andrew Booth (Packers pick plus a trade up) 
- Ed Ingram (Packers pick)

Let's see how this looks in three years...

Exactly. Lets see how it looks in 3 years. You've been bitching its a shit show in Minnesota with KAM. Like a broken record kind of thing. So are you willing to wait or are you one of these knee jerk alarmist like a dog with a bone? just asking. 

Oh and here come the cool aide drinkers out in force who if you disagree, brand you as a malcontent or knee jerker lol. Get real. Everything KAM has done thusfar has been questionable. Sure we all wait to see how it plays out but the guys moves have not been beyond criticism. I criticized Spielman just the same when I thought he made stupid moves. Are you one of those guys who thinks Biden is doing a great job too because he's in charge, and because of that, assume he knows what he's doing? Just asking...

Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions

 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan
 Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama

When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  

@"minny65" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  

I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  

I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!

Its not that politics cant exist. Its that it has its very own safe space in sensative topics. It doesn’t belong in a football thread. 

@"minny65" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"supafreak84" said: Walter football with some post draft knee jerk alarmist stuff. They must not know Kwesi and his 8 years of analytics experience is the smartest man in football...First-Day Winners

 Detroit Lions
 Aidan Hutchinson, DE, Michigan  Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama
When you have two first-round picks, it can be easy to look good, and Detroit did that. The Lions, however, went above and beyond with a brilliant trade-up in the first round. At No. 2 overall, they landed a long-term feature edge rusher in Aidan Hutchinson to build their team around. Many other franchises viewed Hutchinson as the safest pick in the 2022 NFL Draft.

When the 12th pick rolled around, it was shocking to see Detroit pop up on the clock. They absolutely ripped off the Vikings in trading up 20 spots and essentially only giving up a third-round pick. The Lions then used the 12th pick to take Williams, a speedster who could be their long-term No. 1 receiver, and add a game breaker to their offense. The Lions were a big rebuilding project when they hired general manager Brad Holmes and head coach Dan Campbell. After two drafts, they are off to a great start, adding premium talents with first-round picks Penei Sewell, Aidan Hutchinson and Jameson Williams.

First-Day Losers

 Minnesota Vikings
 Lewis Cine, C, Georgia
The Vikings aren't losers because of their selection of Cine. He is a tough safety who is well-rounded and looks like a very safe choice to turn into a good starter. Minnesota took Cine with the 32nd pick, however, because the organization's trade down with the Lions was horrific, letting Detroit general manager Brad Holmes take the Vikings to the cleaners. Detroit jumped up from No. 32 to No. 12 and the only additional pick Minnesota really got for that massive drop down was a third-rounder. The second-round pick moved up 10 spots, which ended up being minimal. The Vikings dropping 20 spots in the first round would typically cost at least a first-round pick in the next year's draft, if not more.

On top of the trade being lopsided from a value perspective, the Vikings helped a division rival get a potential No. 1 wide receiver and game breaker in Jameson Williams. Williams is a speed demon with rare explosive playmaking ability. Helping the Lions to acquire him and now having to cover Williams twice a year for many years to come are both inexcusable. The trade was an awful start for the new regime and rookie general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

Do you think this is somehow validation for your opinion? I can post other links that show the opposite, that the Vikings draft was perceived as very good.

Never said KAM is/was beyond reproach, not sure anyone is saying that. But you're saying it 100% definitively sucks, which we have no idea about yet. And why did you throw Biden in at the end of your little rant, lol? 

It's just further validation that there are plenty of others out there who were also skeptical of the draft and how it was conducted by a man who was a skeptical hire in the first place. Sure we are all forced to wait it out to see how it plays out, but that doesn't change the surface perception that a lot of dumb moves were made by the new golden boy. If it all miraculously turns out in our favor down the line, I'll never criticize the man again, but this has been a real lackluster first offseason capped by a draft littered with questionable moves. If "the plan" is to shuffle the cap every offseason to keep Cousins and kick the can down the road, sign lower tier free agents, and get absolutely raped in draft compensation by our division rivals while trying to be smarter then everybody else...then the plan 100% definitively sucks. 

The Biden reference was just for the blind squirrels who believe that just because he's in charge that he must be smarter then everybody else and knows what he's doing, ala Kwesi. That's certainly not the case with our moron in Chief, and might not be the case with Kwesi either..so it's okay to be critical of questionable decisions. I mean this is still a message board last time I checked. If that's changed let me know.  

I also think this offseason has been lackluster overall.  Please keep politics and non-support of our President out of this football site, Thanks!