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Are Tretter and Bates “still in play” for us?

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Tretter in Chicago today?   is that correct? 
Bates situation?

Any updates appreciated...THX

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#1 · Mar 22, 7:29 PM
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After the Smith signing is there any money left except for draft picks?

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@"Greylock" said: After the Smith signing is there any money left except for draft picks?
I’ll never question “The Brzez”

Bates would probably come cheaper, but hey - it aint my money

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I think Tretter is out of range without another (Kendricks?) restructure.  Bates is possible, but I read he was in Chicago today, and they already lost James Daniels, so I'm guessing they're even more desperate than we are. 

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Just took a quick look at Vikes cap on Overthecap. Currently have $14MM and some change in space, but that doesn't include Za'Darius' contract nor does it include Thielen's cap savings. Draft class will be a hair under $10MM so we probably could get one of them as it currently stands. A restructure to Kendricks and Cook could mean both.

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@"Hawkvike25" said: Just took a quick look at Vikes cap on Overthecap. Currently have $14MM and some change in space, but that doesn't include Za'Darius' contract nor does it include Thielen's cap savings. Draft class will be a hair under $10MM so we probably could get one of them as it currently stands. A restructure to Kendricks and Cook could mean both.
$10M for our rookie class seems really high.  I think it should be about half of that - about $5 or $6M.
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@"dadevike" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Just took a quick look at Vikes cap on Overthecap. Currently have $14MM and some change in space, but that doesn't include Za'Darius' contract nor does it include Thielen's cap savings. Draft class will be a hair under $10MM so we probably could get one of them as it currently stands. A restructure to Kendricks and Cook could mean both.
$10M for our rookie class seems really high.  I think it should be about half of that - about $5 or $6M.
Scroll about half way down: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/cap/

Spotrac is saying $9.7

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they can get both if they really want them.

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@"kmillard" said: they can get both if they really want them.
Perhaps, but don't overpay for Bates. I think you do whatever you can to get Tretter
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Both guys have to want to be here too, especially Bates.

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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"dadevike" said:
@"Hawkvike25" said: Just took a quick look at Vikes cap on Overthecap. Currently have $14MM and some change in space, but that doesn't include Za'Darius' contract nor does it include Thielen's cap savings. Draft class will be a hair under $10MM so we probably could get one of them as it currently stands. A restructure to Kendricks and Cook could mean both.
$10M for our rookie class seems really high.  I think it should be about half of that - about $5 or $6M.
Scroll about half way down: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/cap/

Spotrac is saying $9.7



Looks like you are correct at least once the games start.  Until then, it is about $6M (top 51).  I'm confident the front office guys can figure this out.  While we can't spend freely in FA (nor would I want that), I think we have enough to sign an IOL and a vet CB and leave the rest for the draft.

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They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
As in Bates signed the offer sheet?
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How much of an upgrade is Bates? Is he better than Cole? If the two are comparable, let's see what Davis has to offer along with maybe a draft pick and then go after Tretter hard. Bradbury is a black hole

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
As in Bates signed the offer sheet?
Not yet. Vikings have an offer sheet ready for him if he wants to sign it though. Its more about Bates choosing a team vs. someone making an offer.
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@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
As in Bates signed the offer sheet?
Not yet. Vikings have an offer sheet ready for him if he wants to sign it though. Its more about Bates choosing a team vs. someone making an offer.
When he signs, does that contract count against the cap? Or, does it have no impact until the right of refusal period ends and a decision is made?
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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
As in Bates signed the offer sheet?
Not yet. Vikings have an offer sheet ready for him if he wants to sign it though. Its more about Bates choosing a team vs. someone making an offer.
When he signs, does that contract count against the cap? Or, does it have no impact until the right of refusal period ends and a decision is made?
It immediately hits the cap and stays on the cap until the Bills choose to match or deny matching. 
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@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
Thanks Geoff - really appreciate all the good insight you bring to this board.
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@"Hawkvike25" said:
@"kmillard" said: they can get both if they really want them.
Perhaps, but don't overpay for Bates. I think you do whatever you can to get Tretter
oh i agree. His resume isn’t very big and you would be hoping that he pans out.
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@"Geoff Nichols" said: They're in on Bates. I don't know who said they're in on Tretter to begin with, they aren't as far as I'm aware. 
There's this false narrative with a bunch of Vikings bloggers that Minnesota is in the running for Tretter. Not sure why but that's where its coming from. 
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No update on Ryan Bates, but MIN is kicking the tires on Erek Flowers. Nothing is close, but shows they are in the market older OL still. As Chris Tomasson reported, resigning Patrick Peterson is a possibility. Re-signing Anthony Barr is unlikely now.
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