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Under the CAP in 0 days - Wednesday 3/16

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Get ready for a barrage of transactions.

The Countdown for Vikings Is 4 Days - Vikings Territory

"The time is now for those maneuvers to occur.
For releases, players like Michael Pierce, Anthony Barr, C.J. Ham may depart the organization. While those men are effective players, there might not be a spot for them on the 2022 roster for the Kevin O’Connell approach to football. Pierce is expensive and injury-prone, Barr almost left three years ago and probably will actually bolt this time, and the Rams offense didn’t fancy fullbacks under O’Connell and Sean McVay.
On restructures, that may be a boatload of veterans, especially if Kwesi Adofo-Mensah conducts business like Rick Spielman. Players such as Adam Thielen, Danielle Hunter, and Harrison Smith are names to remember for contractual renegotiation. Oh, and Kirk Cousins is in that camp, too, if Adofo-Mensah does not trade the quarterback. Although, Cousins’ money is notoriously guaranteed, so his deal would probably be an extension if he continues to wear purple and gold clothing.
And for trades, well, that topic is debatable."

Currently almost 20 million over the Cap - Spotrac

ACTIVE PLAYERS (58)POS.BASE SALARYSIGNING BONUSROSTER BONUSOPTION BONUSWORKOUT BONUSRESTRUC. BONUSMISC.DEAD CAPCAP HITCAP %
Kirk CousinsQB$35,000,000$10,000,000---$166,668-($45,166,668)$45,166,66821.53
Danielle HunterDE$1,400,000$3,000,000$18,500,000-$100,000$3,120,000-($7,480,000)$26,120,00012.45
Adam ThielenWR$12,045,000$1,800,000$500,000-$100,000$2,500,000-($11,100,000)$16,945,0008.08
Eric KendricksILB$9,150,000$2,100,000$250,000-$100,000$1,930,000-($5,960,000)$13,530,0006.45
Harrison SmithFS$2,950,000$1,915,882$8,500,000-$100,000--($7,663,536)$13,465,8826.42
Dalvin CookRB$8,300,000$3,101,272$500,000-$100,000--($9,303,816)$12,001,2725.72
Michael PierceDT$7,900,000$2,000,000$500,000-$100,000--($4,000,000)$10,500,0005.00
Anthony BarrOLB-$4,945,000-----($9,890,000)$9,890,0004.71
Brian O'NeillRT$4,400,000$4,000,000$500,000-$100,000$315,223-($17,260,892)$9,315,2234.44

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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.

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#22 · Mar 16, 10:23 AM
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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.



I was just going to ask about this,  why are they fucking around?  if they intend to keep him then convert it already and get on with it.  if they are afraid of that signing bonus move then they arent sold on him going forward and need to just move him and make it work.

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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
Chris Tomasson
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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.



I was just going to ask about this,  why are they fucking around?  if they intend to keep him then convert it already and get on with it.  if they are afraid of that signing bonus move then they arent sold on him going forward and need to just move him and make it work.


It's kind of a mystery. Maybe the new head trainer isn't willing to commit on long term medical outlook. Maybe they are trying to trade him to Buffalo and they can't agree to a long term deal. Geoff mentioned it's a bit complicated, but on the surface, 3 hours from the deadline, shit or get off the pot.

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
Chris Tomasson
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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.



I was just going to ask about this,  why are they fucking around?  if they intend to keep him then convert it already and get on with it.  if they are afraid of that signing bonus move then they arent sold on him going forward and need to just move him and make it work.


It's kind of a mystery. Maybe the new head trainer isn't willing to commit on long term medical outlook. Maybe they are trying to trade him to Buffalo and they can't agree to a long term deal. Geoff mentioned it's a bit complicated, but on the surface, 3 hours from the deadline, shit or get off the pot.


the scenario I keep seeing is if they go ahead and convert it,  he gets paid now,  its applied to our cap for the next "X" years,  and he still wants that raise and could just sit out anyway and demand a trade... and we are still stuck with that 18 in dead cap as well as having it all roll into the current year.   

They had to know this was on the horizon with Hunter, if we are going to end up either grossly overpaying him ( same argument I had with the cousins deal ),  or dumping him,  IMO get off the train now,  his most recent 2 years suggest its more of a risk than with most players and the team needs to be weighing that heavily.

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
Chris Tomasson
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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.



I was just going to ask about this,  why are they fucking around?  if they intend to keep him then convert it already and get on with it.  if they are afraid of that signing bonus move then they arent sold on him going forward and need to just move him and make it work.


It's kind of a mystery. Maybe the new head trainer isn't willing to commit on long term medical outlook. Maybe they are trying to trade him to Buffalo and they can't agree to a long term deal. Geoff mentioned it's a bit complicated, but on the surface, 3 hours from the deadline, shit or get off the pot.


That's where I'm at. I'm not as annoyed at the lack of signing guys, I'm more annoyed at the lack of restructures and releases. We know something is going to happen with Thielen and Hunter, just freaking do it already. We don't know what will happen to the others over $10MM per year, but just do the obvious two already.

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#26 · Mar 16, 11:19 AM
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Just talked to cap analyst Jason Fitzgerald. Has #Vikings at $256,428 under cap counting Pierce release, Cousins extension, a Hicks signing, Joseph tender. And they could hold off on signing Harrison Phillips. So the Vikings don't have to do anything today if they don't want to.

Oh FFS.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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#27 · Mar 16, 11:40 AM
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Not counting Jordan Hicks, who hasn't officially signed, #Vikings would be $3.05 million under cap now So it looks as if Vikings are safely under cap if they don't sign Harrison Phillips right away & they could delay Hicks if they wanted Can buy time to sort out Smith, Hunter etc
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Looks like the Vikings have prepared another top secret offer…  ;) :p  

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#29 · Mar 16, 12:47 PM
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Let me know when I am supposed to get excited :)

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#30 · Mar 16, 1:41 PM
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Now

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@"JustinTime18™" said:

Now


I don't know why but that worked.  We are going to the SB baby :)

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@"JustinTime18™" said:
@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"JustinTime18™" said:
Chris Tomasson
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And as has been widely discussed #Vikings Danielle Hunter's contract in current form becomes guaranteed Sunday with $18M signing bonus, $1.4M base & cap number of $25.838M. But $18 million can be converted to signing bonus without needing Hunter consent to save $13.5M on 2022 cap

Also known as the Bill Cosby clause.



I was just going to ask about this,  why are they fucking around?  if they intend to keep him then convert it already and get on with it.  if they are afraid of that signing bonus move then they arent sold on him going forward and need to just move him and make it work.


It's kind of a mystery. Maybe the new head trainer isn't willing to commit on long term medical outlook. Maybe they are trying to trade him to Buffalo and they can't agree to a long term deal. Geoff mentioned it's a bit complicated, but on the surface, 3 hours from the deadline, shit or get off the pot.


Of all the speculation... Shit.

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