Give me Ryans
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Not to piss in everybody's Cheerios, but this has been an excellent San Francisco defense for a few years now and they are an elite unit when healthy. Robert Saleh got the Jets job on the back of this defense and proceeded to lead the Jets to the 32nd ranked defense in the league in his first year as head coach...dead last! To me a lot of the credit for this 49ers defense goes to John Lynch who's been able to identify and draft a lot of really good players. Go look at their depth chart and look at how many starters they have that were drafted in the 3rd round or later. It's impressive.
@"supafreak84" said: Not to piss in everybody's Cheerios, but this has been an excellent San Francisco defense for a few years now and they are an elite unit when healthy. Robert Saleh got the Jets job on the back of this defense and proceeded to lead the Jets to the 32nd ranked defense in the league in his first year as head coach...dead last! To me a lot of the credit for this 49ers defense goes to John Lynch who's been able to identify and draft a lot of really good players. Go look at their depth chart and look at how many starters they have that were drafted in the 3rd round or later. It's impressive.
To me that suggests Saleh was overrated, not Ryans, where was the expected drop off…? Obviously the Niners have talent on D but there’s been turnover on their personnel as well, consider who they were playing in the defensive backfield yesterday for one…
@"Kentis" said:@"supafreak84" said: Not to piss in everybody's Cheerios, but this has been an excellent San Francisco defense for a few years now and they are an elite unit when healthy. Robert Saleh got the Jets job on the back of this defense and proceeded to lead the Jets to the 32nd ranked defense in the league in his first year as head coach...dead last! To me a lot of the credit for this 49ers defense goes to John Lynch who's been able to identify and draft a lot of really good players. Go look at their depth chart and look at how many starters they have that were drafted in the 3rd round or later. It's impressive.To me that suggests Saleh was overrated, not Ryans, where was the expected drop off…? Obviously the Niners have talent on D but there’s been turnover on their personnel as well, consider who they were playing in the defensive backfield yesterday for one…
Yes but they make up for their lack of cornerback talent with an excellent front seven that can stop the run and get after the quarterback. They also have a couple very solid safeties. All that makes average to below average talent at cornerback look better. You can scheme and game plan that deficiency to where it's manageable, which is what the 49ers have done.
@"supafreak84" said:@"Kentis" said:@"supafreak84" said: Not to piss in everybody's Cheerios, but this has been an excellent San Francisco defense for a few years now and they are an elite unit when healthy. Robert Saleh got the Jets job on the back of this defense and proceeded to lead the Jets to the 32nd ranked defense in the league in his first year as head coach...dead last! To me a lot of the credit for this 49ers defense goes to John Lynch who's been able to identify and draft a lot of really good players. Go look at their depth chart and look at how many starters they have that were drafted in the 3rd round or later. It's impressive.To me that suggests Saleh was overrated, not Ryans, where was the expected drop off…? Obviously the Niners have talent on D but there’s been turnover on their personnel as well, consider who they were playing in the defensive backfield yesterday for one…
Yes but they make up for their lack of cornerback talent with an excellent front seven that can stop the run and get after the quarterback. They also have a couple very solid safeties. All that makes average to below average talent at cornerback look better. You can scheme and game plan that deficiency to where it's manageable, which is what the 49ers have done.
Getting consistent pressure and hits on any QB covers up a lot of deficiencies on the back side if your CBs can at least disrupt the quick routes a little bit with consistency.
One of those rookie DB’s that’s been starting, Thomas, missed yesterday w/ an injury, too. IDK, at some point you’ve got to give some credit to Ryans…
Ryans made it difficult for Rodgers to read coverage and that's not easily done. There is definitely something here beyond talented personnel. I can't wait to see how he deals with McVay's offense.
I think the niners go to the SB. McVay against Shannahan. That should be one hell of a game.
@"jargomcfargo" said: Ryans made it difficult for Rodgers to read coverage and that's not easily done. There is definitely something here beyond talented personnel. I can't wait to see how he deals with McVay's offense. I think the niners go to the SB. McVay against Shannahan. That should be one hell of a game.Me too....
Destiny and they are the Rams kryptonite as much as the Packers.
Something to think about....the four head coaches in the championship games...all offensive minded. The theme here is that if you have a great, innovative, offensive mind with weapons to play with...you are going to be very difficult to stop. To the Wilfs...take note and leave Quinn, Morris, and Bowles off your finalist list.
@"supafreak84" said: Something to think about....the four head coaches in the championship games...all offensive minded. The theme here is that if you have a great, innovative, offensive mind with weapons to play with...you are going to be very difficult to stop. To the Wilfs...take note and leave Quinn, Morris, and Bowles off your finalist list.I like Morris but yeah, agreed.
Chiefs are going to roll whichever NFC team they face too. Best offensive coaches, best QB, best playmakers. Bills had the #1 D. Got shredded.
@"pattersaur" said:@"supafreak84" said: Something to think about....the four head coaches in the championship games...all offensive minded. The theme here is that if you have a great, innovative, offensive mind with weapons to play with...you are going to be very difficult to stop. To the Wilfs...take note and leave Quinn, Morris, and Bowles off your finalist list. I like Morris but yeah, agreed.Chiefs are going to roll whichever NFC team they face too. Best offensive coaches, best QB, best playmakers. Bills had the #1 D. Got shredded.
Yeah Frazier and McDermott have years upon years of NFL coaching experience on defense and couldn't even come close to slowing down Andy Reid, Mahomes, and that Chiefs offense. It's the wave of the future. If you aren't innovative on offense and utilizing weapons, you are going to get left behind. It's why I really hope if the Vikings are going to roll the dice, my preference would be for them to do so on an offensive innovator as a head coach. To me all these guys they've interviewed thus far are either retreads or just unproven....give me Kellen Moore.
Also, this team needs more weapons and speed offensively. We need a lot on defense but to me we could really benefit from big time TE and I don't know that we can rely on Irv Smith to stay healthy.
Good old D may rear its head Championship weekend and at the SB too... Not like the 70's, but more than this weekend.
I get the religion regarding this era of NFL and the need for being creative on O.
If you dont get the QB right you're screwed. So very few Allens, Mahomes, Burrows and Hebert's out there.
Unless you're committed to having your HC calling plays, I'm more concerned with can the guy be flexible enough to identify the right coordinators/position coaches for our talent, and lure them to his staff to implement a more innovative schematic direction? Be a players coach, be the game manager, be in charge of the clock/timeouts and challenge the official calls guru, be a PR genius, stay in Minnesota year round and be the face of the organization and community... Pretty much the opposite of what we just had.
@"purplefaithful" said: Good old D may rear its head Championship weekend and at the SB too... Not like the 70's, but more than this weekend.I get the religion regarding this era of NFL and the need for being creative on O.
If you dont get the QB right you're screwed. So very few Allens, Mahomes, Burrows and Hebert's out there.
Allen - 1st round pick 7
Mahomes - 1st round pick 10 (move up)
Burrows - 1st round pick 1
Herbert - 1st round pick 6
The new GM/HC tandem have to do their due diligence on the QB's and move up, if necessary, like I wanted Spelly to do last year. Right now, I am liking Pickett for us to get in the 5-7 range with a move up from 12.
Allen - 1st round pick 7
Mahomes - 1st round pick 10 (move up)
Burrows - 1st round pick 1
Herbert - 1st round pick 6The new GM/HC tandem have to do their due diligence on the QB's and move up, if necessary, like I wanted Spelly to do last year. Right now, I am liking Pickett for us to get in the 5-7 range with a move up from 12.
I remember that draft when KC was very aggressive moving up, ironically it was the Bills pick they traded for and picked Mahomes with. They were in a similar position to how we are with Cousins with Alex Smith and instead of settling for a good QB they went all in to take a chance on finding someone elite. Without that trade the last 4 championship games do not go through KC. I have no doubt that is what it is going to take for us to become a real contender.
@"JR44" said:
Allen - 1st round pick 7
Mahomes - 1st round pick 10 (move up)
Burrows - 1st round pick 1
Herbert - 1st round pick 6The new GM/HC tandem have to do their due diligence on the QB's and move up, if necessary, like I wanted Spelly to do last year. Right now, I am liking Pickett for us to get in the 5-7 range with a move up from 12.
I remember that draft when KC was very aggressive moving up, ironically it was the Bills pick they traded for and picked Mahomes with. They were in a similar position to how we are with Cousins with Alex Smith and instead of settling for a good QB they went all in to take a chance on finding someone elite. Without that trade the last 4 championship games do not go through KC. I have no doubt that is what it is going to take for us to become a real contender.
Yup, Mahomes was their guy and what a move.Getting him @ 10 was a steal in retrospect.
And the same year? The Bears traded-up all the way to #2 to take Trubisky - over Mahomes and DeShaun Watson.
I guess the moral of the story is be aggressive, but you'd better be smart about it (and maybe a little lucky too).
DeMeco doubling Davante Adams four different times with four different looks, which confused the Packers young QB.
— Kyle Posey (@KP_Show) January 25, 2022
In the last clip, both safeties blitz from depth, A-aron sees that, thinks he has a 1-on-1 deep, only to throw it into double coverage. Ryans a mastermind. pic.twitter.com/vTtWfE44Rz
@"JustinTime18™" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1486019172987330565Packers "young" QB - Lol.
@"JustinTime18™" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1486019172987330565Adam's in two games against the Vikings this year; 18 catches, 251 yards, and 3 TD's. It's amazing how we haven't been able to stop this guy for years now. Double teaming him is a novel idea...wish Zim would have thought of that.
@"supafreak84" said: Not to piss in everybody's Cheerios, but this has been an excellent San Francisco defense for a few years now and they are an elite unit when healthy. Robert Saleh got the Jets job on the back of this defense and proceeded to lead the Jets to the 32nd ranked defense in the league in his first year as head coach...dead last! To me a lot of the credit for this 49ers defense goes to John Lynch who's been able to identify and draft a lot of really good players. Go look at their depth chart and look at how many starters they have that were drafted in the 3rd round or later. It's impressive.Let’s look at the starters they drafted:
Bosa - 1st
Armstead - 1st
Kinlaw (IR) - 1st
Jones - 6th
Warner - 3rd (70th)
Al-Shaair - UDFA
Mosley - UDFA
Ward - 1st
Tartt - 2nd
They have three outstanding first rounders and a solid second rounder. Warner was a very early 3rd and an outstanding pick. The other three are replacement level payers. The majority of their talent is from the first two rounds (and nearly there with Warner). What’s impressive about the late round picks?
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