Odds On The Next HC

Vegas is being silly. Impossible to know without a GM being hired first.

As a player at Colorado, Bieniemy was arrested along with a teammate following a February 1988 bar fight.He pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct and fighting in public, and was sentenced to community service.He also received discipline from head coach Bill McCartney.
In 1989, Bieniemy was ticketed in Westminster, Colorado for driving a defective vehicle, and in Aurora, Coloradofor speeding. In October 1990, Bieniemy's license was suspended for a year after another traffic violation. On March 21, 1991, Bieniemy was caught speeding and driving with suspended license on I-70 near Rifle, Colorado, going 92 mph in a 65 mph zone. On April 17, 1991, Bieniemy failed to appear in court on charges relating to the March 21 incident. A bench warrant was issued in Colorado for his arrest on April 23, 1991, two days after he was drafted in the 1991 NFL Draft.
On July 4, 1990, Bieniemy pleaded no contest to interfering with a firefighter who had been performing his duties to extinguish a fire in Bieniemy's mother's garage. Bieniemy received an eight-month suspended sentenceand was suspended for one game. Bieniemy was instructed to do 40 hours of community service and attend an eight-hour firefighting training session. An assistant city attorney said Bieniemy failed to attend the firefighting training session as stipulated in the plea agreement, but Bieniemy asserted the session was optional.
On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado, for allegedly harassing a female parking attendant. According to the police report, while with his friends, Bieniemy put his hand on the attendant's neck, startling her. She told police he also made a comment about "a bunch of black males all at once being her worst nightmare," and that Bieniemy and his friends took off their pants and began urinating nearby. Bieniemy was also named in an outstanding warrant on a charge of driving with a suspended license. As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year.
In April 2001, Bieniemy was arrested for driving under the influence and was docked a month's pay.

Agreed with no GM this does seem premature, but I do agree Bienemy is the favorite. Wilfs showed with Zim that they aren’t spooked by guys who have been repeatedly passed over in the past. And it pay off with Zim, for a time. 

@"Lee 19" said: As a player at Colorado, Bieniemy was arrested along with a teammate following a February 1988 bar fight.He pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct and fighting in public, and was sentenced to community service.He also received discipline from head coach Bill McCartney. In 1989, Bieniemy was ticketed in Westminster, Colorado for driving a defective vehicle, and in Aurora, Coloradofor speeding. In October 1990, Bieniemy's license was suspended for a year after another traffic violation. On March 21, 1991, Bieniemy was caught speeding and driving with suspended license on I-70 near Rifle, Colorado, going 92 mph in a 65 mph zone. On April 17, 1991, Bieniemy failed to appear in court on charges relating to the March 21 incident. A bench warrant was issued in Colorado for his arrest on April 23, 1991, two days after he was drafted in the 1991 NFL Draft. On July 4, 1990, Bieniemy pleaded no contest to interfering with a firefighter who had been performing his duties to extinguish a fire in Bieniemy's mother's garage. Bieniemy received an eight-month suspended sentenceand was suspended for one game. Bieniemy was instructed to do 40 hours of community service and attend an eight-hour firefighting training session. An assistant city attorney said Bieniemy failed to attend the firefighting training session as stipulated in the plea agreement, but Bieniemy asserted the session was optional. On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado, for allegedly harassing a female parking attendant. According to the police report, while with his friends, Bieniemy put his hand on the attendant's neck, startling her. She told police he also made a comment about "a bunch of black males all at once being her worst nightmare," and that Bieniemy and his friends took off their pants and began urinating nearby. Bieniemy was also named in an outstanding warrant on a charge of driving with a suspended license. As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year. In April 2001, Bieniemy was arrested for driving under the influence and was docked a month's pay.

Kellen Moore being 7th on that list has me butthurt though.

Would anyone be talking about EB if it weren't for Patrick Mahomes?

@"mgobluevikes" said: Would anyone be talking about EB if it weren't for Patrick Mahomes?

Snitches get stitches, Lee.

Funny how Lee posts this regarding Bieniemy (black coach) as well as he doesn't want Dungy as GM (black gm) because he will be focused on getting a "black coach"

Bro, your racism is fucking ugly

“I truly believe Lane Kiffin is probably going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. And the reason why think this is because of all of the assistants leaving the staff and I was told ‘look out for the Minnesota Vikings job, but he’s not a fit with Rick Spielman.’ Zimmer just got fired and Spielman just got fired. That’s oil and water, Lane Kiffin and Rick Spielman, not a fit. now that they’ve cleaned house, look for a total coaching and culture overhaul in Minnesota, and I’ve got Lane Kiffin in the NFL again, possibly.” https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/11/minnesota-vikings-rumor-lane-kiffin-next-head-coach/

@"MaroonBells" said:

“I truly believe Lane Kiffin is probably going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. And the reason why think this is because of all of the assistants leaving the staff and I was told ‘look out for the Minnesota Vikings job, but he’s not a fit with Rick Spielman.’ Zimmer just got fired and Spielman just got fired. That’s oil and water, Lane Kiffin and Rick Spielman, not a fit. now that they’ve cleaned house, look for a total coaching and culture overhaul in Minnesota, and I’ve got Lane Kiffin in the NFL again, possibly.”

https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/11/minnesota-vikings-rumor-lane-kiffin-next-head-coach/

@"MaroonBells" said:

“I truly believe Lane Kiffin is probably going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. And the reason why think this is because of all of the assistants leaving the staff and I was told ‘look out for the Minnesota Vikings job, but he’s not a fit with Rick Spielman.’ Zimmer just got fired and Spielman just got fired. That’s oil and water, Lane Kiffin and Rick Spielman, not a fit. now that they’ve cleaned house, look for a total coaching and culture overhaul in Minnesota, and I’ve got Lane Kiffin in the NFL again, possibly.”

https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/11/minnesota-vikings-rumor-lane-kiffin-next-head-coach/

@"Skodin" said: Funny how Lee posts this regarding Bieniemy (black coach) as well as he doesn't want Dungy as GM (black gm) because he will be focused on getting a "black coach"

Bro, your racism is fucking ugly

@"Lee 19" said: As a player at Colorado, Bieniemy was arrested along with a teammate following a February 1988 bar fight.He pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct and fighting in public, and was sentenced to community service.He also received discipline from head coach Bill McCartney. In 1989, Bieniemy was ticketed in Westminster, Colorado for driving a defective vehicle, and in Aurora, Coloradofor speeding. In October 1990, Bieniemy's license was suspended for a year after another traffic violation. On March 21, 1991, Bieniemy was caught speeding and driving with suspended license on I-70 near Rifle, Colorado, going 92 mph in a 65 mph zone. On April 17, 1991, Bieniemy failed to appear in court on charges relating to the March 21 incident. A bench warrant was issued in Colorado for his arrest on April 23, 1991, two days after he was drafted in the 1991 NFL Draft. On July 4, 1990, Bieniemy pleaded no contest to interfering with a firefighter who had been performing his duties to extinguish a fire in Bieniemy's mother's garage. Bieniemy received an eight-month suspended sentenceand was suspended for one game. Bieniemy was instructed to do 40 hours of community service and attend an eight-hour firefighting training session. An assistant city attorney said Bieniemy failed to attend the firefighting training session as stipulated in the plea agreement, but Bieniemy asserted the session was optional. On September 27, 1993, Bieniemy was arrested in Boulder, Colorado, for allegedly harassing a female parking attendant. According to the police report, while with his friends, Bieniemy put his hand on the attendant's neck, startling her. She told police he also made a comment about "a bunch of black males all at once being her worst nightmare," and that Bieniemy and his friends took off their pants and began urinating nearby. Bieniemy was also named in an outstanding warrant on a charge of driving with a suspended license. As a result of this incident, Bieniemy was banned from the University of Colorado Boulder campus for one year. In April 2001, Bieniemy was arrested for driving under the influence and was docked a month's pay.

1. Similar  and if not worse than what EB did
2. Were more recent than what EB did

My bigger question, like I asked a year ago is ..these things happened 20+ years ago (not saying he gets a pass) and I am not sure how they should preclude him from being a head coach when he has has had a "clean" past since then.

I hope our new GM (??)  doesn't delve into the college ranks for a HC.  

Being a HC in College and a HC in the NFL are like two completely different jobs and skill sets - IMO.  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

“I truly believe Lane Kiffin is probably going to be the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. And the reason why think this is because of all of the assistants leaving the staff and I was told ‘look out for the Minnesota Vikings job, but he’s not a fit with Rick Spielman.’ Zimmer just got fired and Spielman just got fired. That’s oil and water, Lane Kiffin and Rick Spielman, not a fit. now that they’ve cleaned house, look for a total coaching and culture overhaul in Minnesota, and I’ve got Lane Kiffin in the NFL again, possibly.”

https://thevikingage.com/2022/01/11/minnesota-vikings-rumor-lane-kiffin-next-head-coach/

So I'll say this: I don't think there's much of a doubt that Kiffin is a very good HC. But he's had a wild ride.

@"Skodin" said: Funny how Lee posts this regarding Bieniemy (black coach) as well as he doesn't want Dungy as GM (black gm) because he will be focused on getting a "black coach"

Bro, your racism is fucking ugly

Hard pass on Kiffin. It'd feel like an Urban Meyer hire, maybe not from X's and O's but just from all the baggage he'd bring.

@"Lee 19" said:

@"Skodin" said: Funny how Lee posts this regarding Bieniemy (black coach) as well as he doesn't want Dungy as GM (black gm) because he will be focused on getting a "black coach"

Bro, your racism is fucking ugly

Racism is picking someone not qualified simply to fulfill a quota pumped up by liberal media. Leslie Frazier was fired twice as a defensive coordinator, once in Cincinnati and once in Tampa Bay. And McDermott effectively runs Buffalo defense. But the media and NFL handlers pump him up. Same with Bienemy who is a gloried running backs coach. I have no problem hiring the best candidate period, regardless of color. But bending over backwards to hire a minority is wrong too, Cookie.

Please reference me any time that Tony Dungy advocated for a white guy being promoted for head coach?

As for Barr, now I’m cool Just in Time, maybe telling the unvarnished truth is too much for you.

@"Lee 19" said:

@"Skodin" said: Funny how Lee posts this regarding Bieniemy (black coach) as well as he doesn't want Dungy as GM (black gm) because he will be focused on getting a "black coach"

Bro, your racism is fucking ugly

Racism is picking someone not qualified simply to fulfill a quota pumped up by liberal media. Leslie Frazier was fired twice as a defensive coordinator, once in Cincinnati and once in Tampa Bay. And McDermott effectively runs Buffalo defense. But the media and NFL handlers pump him up. Same with Bienemy who is a gloried running backs coach. I have no problem hiring the best candidate period, regardless of color. But bending over backwards to hire a minority is wrong too, Cookie.