Zimmer -- what does he need to do?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said: Reading through this thread that was started before the Lions game.

Is it still too early for us to move on from Zimmer after this season?  It sure seems like the longship is filling up with those that want to move on.  But then you get a few holdouts who say we are being premature or have not given Zimmer enough of a chance, or aren't as patient as they are etc...

I am already in vetting mode for a new HC and I hope the Wilf's are as well.  I am just wondering what the Wilf's are thinking about Spelly because he will be the key on a new HC.  Do we want him picking his second HC as GM?  

i think Zim’s been teetering on the edge since 2017. And i agree that the Wilfs should, and likely are, vetting other options. 

But yeah, of course its too early. 

Rick? No. That would be the biggest mistake this franchise has made since the Walker trade. Part of the reason Zimmer looks so bad is precisely because he’s been given such loaded rosters. 

At this point I'm convinced any success we have this year is in spite of Zimmer.  The best thing he can do is go away.  Right now, if it's not to much trouble.  Does MSP have nonstop flights to Louisville? Cincinnati? Lexington?  Whichever is closest to his ranch.

Making the playoffs would be ok for him, but winning a playoff game would solidify his stay. I mean at 2-3, you can't count them out of anything yet. And the 3 losses were all very winnable (with Cleveland being the closest to a 'true' loss). I just don't see this team as a playoff team at this point. Lots will have to change. 

A winnable game on the road in Carolina. Its week to week with this team.....just because they squeaked one out at home against a winless team doesn't mean they won't look good this Sunday. The team is inconsistent. 

@"StickyBun" said: Making the playoffs would be ok for him, but winning a playoff game would solidify his stay. I mean at 2-3, you can't count them out of anything yet. And the 3 losses were all very winnable (with Cleveland being the closest to a 'true' loss). I just don't see this team as a playoff team at this point. Lots will have to change. 

A winnable game on the road in Carolina. Its week to week with this team.....just because they squeaked one out at home against a winless team doesn't mean they won't look good this Sunday. The team is inconsistent. 

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Making the playoffs would be ok for him, but winning a playoff game would solidify his stay. I mean at 2-3, you can't count them out of anything yet. And the 3 losses were all very winnable (with Cleveland being the closest to a 'true' loss). I just don't see this team as a playoff team at this point. Lots will have to change. 

A winnable game on the road in Carolina. Its week to week with this team.....just because they squeaked one out at home against a winless team doesn't mean they won't look good this Sunday. The team is inconsistent. 

I fully expect a win this week,  and then I fully expect them to flail through the season,  keep it interesting right to the end, and then once again fail to meet expectations but do just enough for arguments to he able to be made in support of one more year....always next year. 

@"StickyBun" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said: Making the playoffs would be ok for him, but winning a playoff game would solidify his stay. I mean at 2-3, you can't count them out of anything yet. And the 3 losses were all very winnable (with Cleveland being the closest to a 'true' loss). I just don't see this team as a playoff team at this point. Lots will have to change. 

A winnable game on the road in Carolina. Its week to week with this team.....just because they squeaked one out at home against a winless team doesn't mean they won't look good this Sunday. The team is inconsistent. 

I fully expect a win this week,  and then I fully expect them to flail through the season,  keep it interesting right to the end, and then once again fail to meet expectations but do just enough for arguments to he able to be made in support of one more year....always next year. 

You're probably spot on. My patience is at an official end with this regime. Time to take another swing at a new HC and possibly a GM. 

I thought I would bump this back as we can look back at what everyone thought in October.

2% charitably set the bar at “win 8 games”. 

So pending the Bears game result, somewhere between 98-100% of poll responders think Zimmer should be fired. Lol 

At this point he needs to start packing. 

Go away…

Considering he is dating a hot Maxim model, I would suggest he do these to build up his strinth!

@"MarkSP18" said: Considering he is dating a hot Maxim model, I would suggest he do these to build up his strinth!

@"VikingOracle" said: I thought I would bump this back as we can look back at what everyone thought in October.

@"minny65" said:

@"VikingOracle" said: I thought I would bump this back as we can look back at what everyone thought in October.

Not really keeping track but it looks like posters opinions in October have not changed much.  

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"VikingOracle" said: I thought I would bump this back as we can look back at what everyone thought in October.

Not really keeping track but it looks like posters opinions in October have not changed much.  

I don't think that's a badge of honor. In fact, I don't trust anyone who's not willing to change his mind when presented with new facts (ref: Winston Churchill). However, the facts remain the same: Spielman is, demonstrably, still a top 5 to 10 GM in the NFL and Zimmer is a brilliant defensive mind who couldn't get his team in the right head space necessary to close teams out. It's really not that complicated.