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Minnesota Vikings 53-man roster projection 2.0: A change at quarterback
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Amazingly, we’re less than a week away from the Vikings’ first preseason game, a tilt against the Denver Broncos on Saturday that follows two joint practices between the teams later this week. It has already been a busy training camp, with multiple players missing time while on the COVID-19/reserve list, the team’s star wide receiver suffering a sprained AC joint and some changes to the projected starting offensive line. To reset after all that’s happened, our Vikings writers got together for the second installment of their 53-man roster projection. Let’s dive in. QuarterbacksIn: Kirk CousinsJake BrowningKellen Mond Out: Nate StanleyDanny Etling Contested: None Changes from version 1.0: Browning from contested to in Chad: OK, I relent. Arif was right from the start. We can put to rest our debate about whether the Vikings will keep two or three quarterbacks on the roster this season. It’s going to be three, and Browning is going to be the second-string quarterback. Is his status boosted by the fact that he entered training camp vaccinated and thus didn’t have to miss any practices? Yes, Mike Zimmer acknowledged. It helped. Arif: I don’t have much to add here, aside from gloating on this point — one I lost on last year. In his limited time available for us to watch him actually throw passes, Mond has struggled, and with that on top of this availability issue, it seems like we have a slam-dunk case for three quarterbacks.
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:48 seconds down 6. Oli with the 1s. Let’s play
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Greg Joseph goes 3/3 after the game simulation. Riley Patterson is wearing a helmet but apparently not kicking today
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Vikings just did a situational drill where the offense had a minute or so to drive 75 yards down 20-14. Big gains to Chisena and Beebe got the starting offense into the red zone but the drive ends with back to back incompletions intended for Irv Smith Jr. on PBUs by Vigil/Dorn

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@"BarrNone55" said: Will Ragatz @WillRagatz · 9m Vikings just did a situational drill where the offense had a minute or so to drive 75 yards down 20-14. Big gains to Chisena and Beebe got the starting offense into the red zone but the drive ends with back to back incompletions intended for Irv Smith Jr. on PBUs by Vigil/Dorn
nice to hear those 2 names winning reps 
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@"BigAl99" said:
@"StickyBun" said: https://twitter.com/Vikings/status/1424774338096607242
So is how is Jefferson doing?  Three days since last update.



I don't want to hear just a tweak and then it's something else.

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@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1424820298600300547
That was a sweet route. One of his supposed weaknesses...
OverviewTall target with long arms and proportional frame who could struggle on the next level due to inconsistencies in his game. He's a lackluster route runner who lacks the burst or top-end speed to create separation. He's a smooth pass catcher with sudden hands who can win 50/50 throws with his length, but doesn't do nearly enough with his frame to keep smaller cornerbacks from making aggressive challenges for the catch. Jackson's lack of explosiveness means he must make route running and physicality much higher priorities since contested catches will follow him.
Strengths
  • Extremely long with wingspan to intimidate shorter cornerbacks.
  • Active with hands to fight through press.
  • Size forced downfield penalties from panicked defenders.
  • Won't drop many uncontested throws.
  • Shows good awareness with footwork near the sideline.
  • Able to reach way up high to pull in errant throws.
  • Late hands to stab throws on top of him or nab the ball off back-shoulder.
  • Focus to track and secure throws down the deep sideline.
Weaknesses
  • Slow getting off the snap and building momentum in his patterns.
  • Rarely sold his routes, making him easier to read and cover.
  • Failed to use leverage to get tight man off of him.
  • Lethargic footwork getting in and out of his brakes.
  • Movements tend to be too gradual at times.
  • Unable to run away from coverage deep.
  • Allows smaller quarterbacks to crowd and heist his catch space.
  • Not enough grit in finishing blocks in the running game.
hard to get to excited for a guy that was cut before the first preseason game.
Yes, I would advise against it, Jimmy. 
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@"pattersaur" said:
@"BarrNone55" said:
Mike Zimmer notes from today’s #Vikings press conference

 •Justin Jefferson will be back soon

•Nick Vigil is winning the 3rd LB job so far

•Playing time for preseason is still up in the air

•Rookie WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette needs to do much more to make the team



Interesting about ISM. I sorta thought he was a lock to make the team. 

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#Vikings coach Mike Zimmer emphasized that rookie WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette has got to get better at special teams. "If he wants to make the team, that's part of his job description.''

I think summing it up as "needs to do much more to make the team" is a bit of a stretch. 

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Will Ragatz
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Wyatt Davis having a strong day in 1v1 and 2v2 drills vs. the D-line. He’s tough to move
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Oli Udoh, sheesh. Just threw Kenny Willekes to the ground in a 1 on 1 rep

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OL Coach Phil Rausher screaming at OL after a redzone rep. He certainly brings energy to the OL.
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Oli Udoh and Brian O’Neill handle two reps of a Danielle Hunter/Dalvin Tomlinson fairly well. Tough task
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Hill also had high praise for Christian Darrisaw, calling him very smart and strong, and said he’s excited to see what Darrisaw can do on the field soon
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Rashod Hill said he learned a lot working with guys like Terron Armstead and Cam Robinson down in Dallas this offseason. He’s really excited about the opportunity to be the Vikings’ left tackle this year.

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Seems like some low level praise for Darrisaw and Davis. Just have to keep in mind they've been nursing/coming back from injuries so hopefully they keep getting incrementally better as camp goes on. 

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@"StickyBun" said: Seems like some low level praise for Darrisaw and Davis. Just have to keep in mind they've been nursing/coming back from injuries so hopefully they keep getting incrementally better as camp goes on. 
I'm trying not to let my past fan perceptions watching Udoh and Hill shade my expectation of them this year. But it's hard not to. 

I still have high expectations for both the rooks. I just dont think they'll be starting any time soon. 

Never a bad thing not to rush a rook OL. 

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Would like to see Oli put some distance on Dozier. 

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@"BarrNone55" said: Would like to see Oli put some distance on Dozier. 
Would like to see Dozier in a different career.
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