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Still don't get the Cousins hate....

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And most don't even know what the hell they are talking about:

Cousins has thrown 91 TDs with the Vikings.

4 of them have occurred in the 4th Quarter down 20+ points. A blistering 4.3%.

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Replying to @keatN34 and @PFFCousins puts up great numbers when your down 20 points in the 4th. Did it in Washington and with the Vikings. Just never wins the game

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@"MaroonBells" said:
Still blows my mind that in a league with the Chiefs, Ravens, Titans and others, it was Kirk Cousins and the Vikings that led the league last year in explosive play rate (percentage of passes going 15+ yards and runs going 10+ yards).
Vikings might be pretty damn loaded on O now with that promising OL...
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
Still blows my mind that in a league with the Chiefs, Ravens, Titans and others, it was Kirk Cousins and the Vikings that led the league last year in explosive play rate (percentage of passes going 15+ yards and runs going 10+ yards).
Vikings might be pretty damn loaded on O now with that promising OL...



 The pieces are in place. Just a matter of how quickly they can get up to speed and start gelling as a unit. 

I've seen enough of Bradbury, Cleveland and O'Neill to feel pretty good about them continuing to improve and become at least capable NFL linemen. But the the range of outcomes for Darrisaw and Davis are still very much unknown. Be huge for this team if those two draft picks end up as hits. 

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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"MaroonBells" said:
Still blows my mind that in a league with the Chiefs, Ravens, Titans and others, it was Kirk Cousins and the Vikings that led the league last year in explosive play rate (percentage of passes going 15+ yards and runs going 10+ yards).
Vikings might be pretty damn loaded on O now with that promising OL...



 The pieces are in place. Just a matter of how quickly they can get up to speed and start gelling as a unit. 

I've seen enough of Bradbury, Cleveland and O'Neill to feel pretty good about them continuing to improve and become at least capable NFL linemen. But the the range of outcomes for Darrisaw and Davis are still very much unknown. Be huge for this team if those two draft picks end up as hits. 



Though I think the jury is still out on Bradbury a bit, this is what gives me a fair amount of hope for this year.
Even a special QB like Mahomes struggled when he lost his protection. I look forward to seeing what Cousins can do if he gets better protection.
Now if the defense can hold up it's end of the bargain, they could contend.

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@"MaroonBells" said:
Still blows my mind that in a league with the Chiefs, Ravens, Titans and others, it was Kirk Cousins and the Vikings that led the league last year in explosive play rate (percentage of passes going 15+ yards and runs going 10+ yards).
we got some pretty good running backs.... B)
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#65 · Jun 10, 11:14 AM
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Some of the haters make it too easy. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: Some of the haters make it too easy. 

https://twitter.com/DustBaker/status/1403208214502678534?s=20


Haters?  hardly,  they are bears fans,  they dont care who is the QB for the Vikes.  

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#67 · Jun 11, 8:20 AM
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@"MaroonBells" said: Some of the haters make it too easy. 

https://twitter.com/DustBaker/status/1403208214502678534?s=20


Its not even original, just unfunny by BearNation. I think they feel they are going to the Superbowl this year because they drafted Fields. 

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@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1403400380155895812
uhm.... WTF is that and please dont ever post something like that again without a warning ... 
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@"JimmyinSD" said:
@"BarrNone55" said: https://twitter.com/i/status/1403400380155895812
uhm.... WTF is that and please dont ever post something like that again without a warning ... 
LOFL!

Sorry, I rarely have audio on.

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#71 · Jun 11, 12:33 PM
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I hate Cousins!

Sorry, just trying to get this one back on track after listening to that crap.

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#72 · Jun 14, 9:45 AM
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@"jargomcfargo" said: I hate Cousins!

Sorry, just trying to get this one back on track after listening to that crap.


The funny thing is...  there are maybe 2-3 posters here that strongly dislike him.  The rest of the "haters" seem to realize that Cousins is a good starting QB with some limitations that keep him from getting to that next tier of being considered "elite".

We can post all the stats we want to point out Kirk's flaws AND best qualities...  but it's not wrong for fans to expect more from the position...  whether that is Kirk or a potential rookie replacement.  We can't just excuse away his poor play and blame it on some other aspect of the team.

I'd honestly rather see Kirk take the next step and be the guy we thought we were getting in 2018 than start over with a rookie.  After three years, my optimism that it will happen becomes less and less...  hence my openness to the Vikings exploring all options at QB.

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@"Wetlander" said:
@"jargomcfargo" said: I hate Cousins!

Sorry, just trying to get this one back on track after listening to that crap.


The funny thing is...  there are maybe 2-3 posters here that strongly dislike him.  The rest of the "haters" seem to realize that Cousins is a good starting QB with some limitations that keep him from getting to that next tier of being considered "elite".

We can post all the stats we want to point out Kirk's flaws AND best qualities...  but it's not wrong for fans to expect more from the position...  whether that is Kirk or a potential rookie replacement.  We can't just excuse away his poor play and blame it on some other aspect of the team.

I'd honestly rather see Kirk take the next step and be the guy we thought we were getting in 2018 than start over with a rookie.  After three years, my optimism that it will happen becomes less and less...  hence my openness to the Vikings exploring all options at QB.



My sentiments exactly. I like Cousins, and I hope he does well (the better he plays, the better this team will be). I'm just not convinced he's the guy to win a SB with. Maybe with the right team around him he can be, but there's going to be times he's going to need to be the man and carry this team on his shoulders. My hope is that he can be that guy, but after three years my confidence is waning.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Some of the haters make it too easy. 

https://twitter.com/DustBaker/status/1403208214502678534?s=20


Its not even original, just unfunny by BearNation. I think they feel they are going to the Superbowl this year because they drafted Fields. 


If I say that Bears Interception was Thielen's fault am I a Thielen hater?  Or if I say it was a combination of Thielen's bobble and a great defensive play am I a Bears fan?

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#75 · Jun 14, 12:09 PM
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Saw this earlier, and it gives perspective:

TDs Allowed

2017: 24 (13-3)
2020: 53 (7-9)

TDs Scored:

2017: 41 (13-3)
2020: 55 (7-9)

Not all about Cousins, but a stark reminder that the offense's skill positions were nothing like the team's biggest problems last season.

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#76 · Jun 14, 8:24 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out if this "Cousins hate"  even exists (on this blog) or is it a strawman argument?   This thread seems like a huge a circle jerk....not that I am opposed to circle jerks?  Oh yes I am opposed :) 

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