If This Moved Lance To #14

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

@"purplefaithful" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

Or Russell Wilson 3 times  ;)

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

When I watched Ponder @ FSU, I was hoping we could get him in the third round.

@"BarrNone55" said: When I watched Ponder @ FSU, I was hoping we could get him in the third round.

@"minny65" said:

@"BarrNone55" said: When I watched Ponder @ FSU, I was hoping we could get him in the third round.

Yea and that was pretty much the consensus round for him.  

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@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

So True.  The Ponder pick was out of a desperate need for a QB when the supply was complete crap pretty much from top to bottom.

This year is very different in the 3 areas IMO - 1)we aren't desperate   2) a ton of Talent with maybe 6 QB's going in the first round and maybe 5 in the Top 15.   3) we have a relatively high draft pick as compared to the last few years.  Like I have been saying for months, you can't wait for the need or the "right" time to draft a QB you have to seize the opportunity when it is right in front of you.  Do your QB evaluations like it is your Top need and pounce if necessary ...like the Chiefs did with Mahomes after back to back playoffs with Smith or the Packers did with Rodgers having Favre.  Sure, as mentioned over and over again, drafting a QB high/low/middle is no guarantee of success but if you never try then you are guaranteed for failure.

We don't have the draft capital to get too high into the single digit picks but if a guy like Fields or Lance or Wilson drop into the 8 range, and we have done our due diligence  on who we like, then carpe diem.   

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

So True.  The Ponder pick was out of a desperate need for a QB when the supply was complete crap pretty much from top to bottom.

This year is very different in the 3 areas IMO - 1)we aren't desperate   2) a ton of Talent with maybe 6 QB's going in the first round and maybe 5 in the Top 15.   3) we have a relatively high draft pick as compared to the last few years.  Like I have been saying for months, you can't wait for the need or the "right" time to draft a QB you have to seize the opportunity when it is right in front of you.  Do your QB evaluations like it is your Top need and pounce if necessary ...like the Chiefs did with Mahomes after back to back playoffs with Smith or the Packers did with Rodgers having Favre.  Sure, as mentioned over and over again, drafting a QB high/low/middle is no guarantee of success but if you never try then you are guaranteed for failure.

We don't have the draft capital to get too high into the single digit picks but if a guy like Fields or Lance or Wilson drop into the 8 range, and we have done our due diligence  on who we like, then carpe diem.   

Lets say 5 QBs do go.  We have a shot at the best or 2nd best of other elite and highly needed positions.  We might get the second OL off the board or even the first DL at 14th because there are so many teams hoping a QB is going to become the next Mahomes. 

@"pattersaur" said:

@"AGRforever" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"StickyBun" said: It will be interesting. My gut says one of these top QBs is going to slide

Honestly, I think 5 QBs being gone by 14 is more likely. 

Could be. The NFL loves to error on the side of picking these QBs earlier than they probably should, that's for sure.

fans are quicker to forget that you are the GM that passed on Tom Brady 6 times before they let go of the fact that you were the guy that took Christian Ponder 12th overall though....

So True.  The Ponder pick was out of a desperate need for a QB when the supply was complete crap pretty much from top to bottom.

This year is very different in the 3 areas IMO - 1)we aren't desperate   2) a ton of Talent with maybe 6 QB's going in the first round and maybe 5 in the Top 15.   3) we have a relatively high draft pick as compared to the last few years.  Like I have been saying for months, you can't wait for the need or the "right" time to draft a QB you have to seize the opportunity when it is right in front of you.  Do your QB evaluations like it is your Top need and pounce if necessary ...like the Chiefs did with Mahomes after back to back playoffs with Smith or the Packers did with Rodgers having Favre.  Sure, as mentioned over and over again, drafting a QB high/low/middle is no guarantee of success but if you never try then you are guaranteed for failure.

We don't have the draft capital to get too high into the single digit picks but if a guy like Fields or Lance or Wilson drop into the 8 range, and we have done our due diligence  on who we like, then carpe diem.   

Lets say 5 QBs do go.  We have a shot at the best or 2nd best of other elite and highly needed positions.  We might get the second OL off the board or even the first DL at 14th because there are so many teams hoping a QB is going to become the next Mahomes. 

You're right but don't you think those teams all know the risk and the opportunity cost of getting the #5 QB versus the #1 DL or CB?
It's like playing the powerball versus playing keno. Odds of hitting the jackpot are lower, but the payout is much greater.
Plus, you hope the QB you pick turns into a Top 5, franchise guy for 15 years. Of course. But a cheap QB (4-5 years on a rookie contract) who can crack the Top 15-18, might be better for building a roster around than an expensive Top 10 QB.
Think of Jalen Hurts as an example. Could've grabbed him with the Gladney pick last year. Now this season we could afford to sign JJ Watt to the D-line, or LaVonte David at LB, and still have another $10mil in cap space to use this year. And even more next year. Is this team better with that makeup than with 2 more years of Kirk? I honestly don't know. But my point is the QB doesn't have to be an out of the park home run in order for it to be a good pick.