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Theodore Bridgewater: Crystal Ball?

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Some truth or just speculation???

Hurry-up Vikings, we ain't getting any younger! 

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#1 · Feb 22, 8:36 AM
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Panthers might be going hard after Watson.

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#2 · Feb 22, 8:41 AM
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Panthers owner David Tepper is "obsessed" with finding the team's long-term quarterback. Carolina last week cleared $28.5 million by releasing defensive tackle Kawann Short, defensive end Stephen Weatherly, safety Tre Boston, and punter Michael Palardy. The moves are widely seen as preparation for making a run at Deshaun Watson, the last high-profile quarterback potentially available via trade after the Rams acquired Matthew Stafford and the Colts acquired Carson Wentz. Texans officials insist Watson isn't available in a transparent attempt to drive up his trade value. The Panthers, meanwhile, were in the running for Stafford but expressed no interest in Wentz. Peter King said his "best guess" is that Carolina will "continue to monitor the Watson situation for the next two months and, if the Texans stick to their guns, look hard at trading up from No. 8 for a quarterback." 
SOURCE: SI.com
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#3 · Feb 22, 8:46 AM
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I've never been a Theodore Bridgewater fan.  Nice kid, but I never saw in him what a lot did when he was drafted. Very Sage Rosenfels-esque as a backup

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#4 · Feb 22, 9:43 AM
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Vikings didn't commit to Teddy. Saints didn't commit to Teddy. And now the Panthers. He's a NFL backup. I mean, I'd like to have the guy as the Viking's backup. But he's not a guy that a franchise can get behind as 'The Man' because he's limited. You have to want more out of your starting QB. 

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#5 · Feb 22, 9:46 AM
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TB aside, imagine having the time to track who follows who on all the media accounts.

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#6 · Feb 22, 1:25 PM
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I saw an article, earlier, that explained that Carolina was looking to move on from Teddy due to his "physical limitations".

That's fair, IMO.

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#7 · Feb 22, 7:03 PM
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I loved Teddy as a player and a leader wish the knee would have let his career develope to its full potential.

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@"PSBLAKE" said: I loved Teddy as a player and a leader wish the knee would have let his career develope to its full potential.
His knee didn’t limit his potential.  His arm does.
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@"Waterboy" said:
@"PSBLAKE" said: I loved Teddy as a player and a leader wish the knee would have let his career develope to its full potential.
His knee didn’t limit his potential.  His arm does.
Agreed, some here act like he was a completely different player before the injury. Looks like the same guy as always. 
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Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 

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@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
I have a much bigger concern of the Bears landing Watson than Bridgewater...
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@"purplefaithful" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
I have a much bigger concern of the Bears landing Watson than Bridgewater...
Haven't heard much about the Bears when it comes to Watson speculation. But yeah, that would be worse. 
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@"MaroonBells" said:
@"purplefaithful" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
I have a much bigger concern of the Bears landing Watson than Bridgewater...
Haven't heard much about the Bears when it comes to Watson speculation. But yeah, that would be worse. 
Seismic NFC Shift of Power...
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@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
As I didn't watch any games, this is speculation, but that sounds like opponents getting film and recognized the limitations.  Now one could say the limitation could have been partly the offense, the coach and the QB.

But Teddy is likely a system QB.  I think he was the perfect fit with Zim.  Play smart, don't make mistakes and rely on the running game and the D.  What impressed me with Teddy was that when the reins came off, he played his best.  He put up good stats in the 2 minute drill and at the end of games.  He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure.

He wasn't going to be the next watson or mahomes, but he could have been similar to brady/montana.  Smart, efficient and winning.  (I say similar, not exactly like those guys in all their legendary status, so chill)

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@"greediron" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
As I didn't watch any games, this is speculation, but that sounds like opponents getting film and recognized the limitations.  Now one could say the limitation could have been partly the offense, the coach and the QB.

But Teddy is likely a system QB.  I think he was the perfect fit with Zim.  Play smart, don't make mistakes and rely on the running game and the D.  What impressed me with Teddy was that when the reins came off, he played his best.  He put up good stats in the 2 minute drill and at the end of games.  He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure.

He wasn't going to be the next watson or mahomes, but he could have been similar to brady/montana.  Smart, efficient and winning.  (I say similar, not exactly like those guys in all their legendary status, so chill)



Umm, no.....  I'd take Kirk every day of the week over Teddy.  Teddy = purely a system qb.  Kirk a top 10 QB, but not elite.  Dollar wise, Teddy did fine.  Overall performance has never been at Kirk's level.  Do you see 4,000 yards or 30 TD's anywhere on this list?

Year
Team
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
2020
60.9
118
1
1
70.6
2017
0.0
0
0
1
0.0
2015
65.3
3,231
14
9
88.7
2014
64.4
2,919
14
12
85.2
Career
66.5
11,385
53
36
89.5

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I almost forgot Bridgewater threw 12 and 9 INTs his first 2 seasons (with only 14 TDs per year). It's amazing that Zimmer, famous for hating turnovers, was tolerant of that ratio. But it's more amazing that anyone still burns a candle for a QB who has barely averaged 1 TD pass per start.

I really think money is THE factor for many people's attitude about quarterbacks - even when they won't admit it. Cousins' contract doomed him to be disliked by those fans. The same people constantly brought up statistics about Sam Bradford's lifetime earnings with great anger, and it's probably the same people constantly citing Tom Brady giving the Patriots "a bargain". Bridgewater, meanwhile, was on a rookie contract and buying a house for his mom, etc. I know, a big salary can tip the salary cap to prevent signing other players, but I also think some of the attitude is just plain old wealth resentment.

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@"Jor-El" said: I almost forgot Bridgewater threw 12 and 9 INTs his first 2 seasons (with only 14 TDs per year). It's amazing that Zimmer, famous for hating turnovers, was tolerant of that ratio. But it's more amazing that anyone still burns a candle for a QB who has barely averaged 1 TD pass per start.

I really think money is THE factor for many people's attitude about quarterbacks - even when they won't admit it. Cousins' contract doomed him to be disliked by those fans. The same people constantly brought up statistics about Sam Bradford's lifetime earnings with great anger, and it's probably the same people constantly citing Tom Brady giving the Patriots "a bargain". Bridgewater, meanwhile, was on a rookie contract and buying a house for his mom, etc. I know, a big salary can tip the salary cap to prevent signing other players, but I also think some of the attitude is just plain old wealth resentment.


Funny, but Cousins' current contract  isn't even the highest in the league right now.  Last I read it was like 13th or something.  I don't really care what the Vikings pay him, it's not like the money is coming out of my pockets or anyone else's for that matter.  Why people hate over this is amazing.

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@"Waterboy" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
As I didn't watch any games, this is speculation, but that sounds like opponents getting film and recognized the limitations.  Now one could say the limitation could have been partly the offense, the coach and the QB.

But Teddy is likely a system QB.  I think he was the perfect fit with Zim.  Play smart, don't make mistakes and rely on the running game and the D.  What impressed me with Teddy was that when the reins came off, he played his best.  He put up good stats in the 2 minute drill and at the end of games.  He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure.

He wasn't going to be the next watson or mahomes, but he could have been similar to brady/montana.  Smart, efficient and winning.  (I say similar, not exactly like those guys in all their legendary status, so chill)



Umm, no.....  I'd take Kirk every day of the week over Teddy.  Teddy = purely a system qb.  Kirk a top 10 QB, but not elite.  Dollar wise, Teddy did fine.  Overall performance has never been at Kirk's level.  Do you see 4,000 yards or 30 TD's anywhere on this list?

Year
Team
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
2020
60.9
118
1
1
70.6
2017
0.0
0
0
1
0.0
2015
65.3
3,231
14
9
88.7
2014
64.4
2,919
14
12
85.2
Career
66.5
11,385
53
36
89.5


"He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure." 

Kirk puts up big numbers, he is a better QB.  But my point is, Teddy thrived under pressure.  Kirk, not so much.

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@"greediron" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"greediron" said:
@"MaroonBells" said: Teddy played well the first half of the season and then completely fell apart. Not sure what the cause was for that, but I'd put the Panthers at the top of the list of teams most likely to land Watson. Not sure what happens to Teddy now, but I sure hope he doesn't end up with the Bears. 
As I didn't watch any games, this is speculation, but that sounds like opponents getting film and recognized the limitations.  Now one could say the limitation could have been partly the offense, the coach and the QB.

But Teddy is likely a system QB.  I think he was the perfect fit with Zim.  Play smart, don't make mistakes and rely on the running game and the D.  What impressed me with Teddy was that when the reins came off, he played his best.  He put up good stats in the 2 minute drill and at the end of games.  He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure.

He wasn't going to be the next watson or mahomes, but he could have been similar to brady/montana.  Smart, efficient and winning.  (I say similar, not exactly like those guys in all their legendary status, so chill)



Umm, no.....  I'd take Kirk every day of the week over Teddy.  Teddy = purely a system qb.  Kirk a top 10 QB, but not elite.  Dollar wise, Teddy did fine.  Overall performance has never been at Kirk's level.  Do you see 4,000 yards or 30 TD's anywhere on this list?

Year
Team
CMP%
YDS
TD
INT
Rating
2020
60.9
118
1
1
70.6
2017
0.0
0
0
1
0.0
2015
65.3
3,231
14
9
88.7
2014
64.4
2,919
14
12
85.2
Career
66.5
11,385
53
36
89.5


"He was kind of the opposite of Kirk, he thrived under pressure." 

Kirk puts up big numbers, he is a better QB.  But my point is, Teddy thrived under pressure.  Kirk, not so much.



Well, the Panthers lost something like 8 one score games this year, all/most with a chance for them to come back and win/tie.   Teddy was not able to get it done for them.   That’s why the Panthers were in on Stafford, and are rumored to be going after Watson hard.  If they don’t land Watson, they will most likely draft a QB at 8.   I think they have seen enough of Teddy in pressure/tight game situations.   While I wish it would have worked out here and he never got injured, he is what he is at this point of his career and the Panthers are looking to move on after seeing him not deliver in close games after a full season of play.  FWIW.

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@"StickyBun" said:
@"Waterboy" said:
@"PSBLAKE" said: I loved Teddy as a player and a leader wish the knee would have let his career develope to its full potential.
His knee didn’t limit his potential.  His arm does.
Agreed, some here act like he was a completely different player before the injury. Looks like the same guy as always. 
But blaming his knee injury allows people to believe that the Vikings drafted a franchise QB that would have led us to championships - and we were robbed. It would damage some prized perspectives if it were declared that he would never have become more than a journeyman.
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