Mac Jones: Please discuss

Jones is either the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft as far as rating and draft position.  He looks less mobile than the top 4 but that could simply be that he does not need to run or scramble.  In play for Vikings? maybe, don't think he will last til 40 .

I would take him over Fields, it reminds me of Tua vs Herbert.  I would definitely consider Jones at 14, after this game he is going in the first. 

On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

@"rf54" said: Jones is either the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft as far as rating and draft position.  He looks less mobile than the top 4 but that could simply be that he does not need to run or scramble.  In play for Vikings? maybe, don't think he will last til 40 .

Just looked at stat line because not watching game but DeVonte has 12 catches and 3 TD's in a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What and against OSU.  I know their secondary is not top notch but they aren't second rate either.  Devonte is what 6'1 and 175 lbs???  I don't watch a lot of college but at that size is he prepared for the the NFL and the CB's that have 20lbs on him checking him off the line etc...  

@"minny65" said: Just looked at stat line because not watching game but DeVonte has 12 catches and 3 TD's in a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What and against OSU.  I know their secondary is not top notch but they aren't second rate either.  Devonte is what 6'1 and 175 lbs???  I don't watch a lot of college but at that size is he prepared for the the NFL and the CB's that have 20lbs on him checking him off the line etc...  

@"minny65" said: On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

@"supafreak84" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said:
On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

@"minny65" said:

@"supafreak84" said:

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said: On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

@"minny65" said:

@"mblack" said:

@"minny65" said:
On cue, I just read this:

Vikings need to prepare for life after Kirk Cousins in the 2021 NFL Draft (msn.com)

Thanks so I am officially back on the QB with first pick then (if Mac Jones is there).
We have the perfect scenario to have him sit and learn for a year 

Yea I have not swayed.  5 potential first round QB's does not happen often at all. Then add us picking 14 which also does not happen often at all.  We need our front office to hone in on the 4/5 (other then Lawrence) and identify who we think is a franchise QB and either move up at least before 49'ers (10) and get our guy.  Wilson was projected about 6 weeks ago to be around in the teens and now Top 5 easily and now maybe ahead of Fields who might fall after 5??  This will all change drastically after combine etc.  Lance seems to be hovering around 8-12 with an occasional Mac and Trask hovering around the teens.  

I am pretty convinced that out focus will not be on any of these QB's.  Spelly/front office/Zimmer are committed to Cousins and his really bad contract that they created last year to try and keep some veteran Defensive players that did not happen. 

I just wish Spelly will think out-of-the-box this draft and I doubt it.  He will think a 3T at 14 will be our elixir/fix for 2021.  

This thought process does not mean I am anti Spelly or Cousins, it is situational for THIS DRAFT.  

As much as I desperately want a legitimate franchise type QB, I just don't see the Vikings investing their first round pick this year on a guy they are essentially going to get no immediate return on with all the other roster needs, especially with no second round pick

Speaking of 3 technique's.....really nice night for Barmore.  Leatherwood looks like a beast tonight too on the Alabama offensive line. They have so many big athletes every year, it's really impressive 

@"supafreak84" said: Speaking of 3 technique's.....really nice night for Barmore.  Leatherwood looks like a beast tonight too on the Alabama offensive line. They have so many big athletes every year, it's really impressive 

Quite the performance, but does his game translate strongly to the NFL? He's on an uber talented team with guys WIDE OPEN. I don't know, he doesn't do it for me for some reason. I see him being mocked in the bottom half of round 1 but I also saw Jake Fromm in the same position with mocks and he was drafted in the 5th round in actuality. No idea what GMs think of Jones. 

I am not sold on him yet and certainly not at 14. I don't think they would take a qb with the pick and I am not confident that they make the right choice or would be able to develop one.

Brugler has him in his top 25. I'm not seeing it, but...

Vikes aren't taking Mac Jones at 14. Honestly, last nights game felt like a pro day for Vikings fans with Leatherwood, Barmore, and Wyatt Davis all playing. 

Hell, after last night I'd take Barrmore in front of MacJones... :p

I dont know where the ceiling is for MacJones is the problem. Kid is smart as hell (4.0 gpa), looks accurate, has nice pocket presence etc.

But he plays behind a surround thats better than 1/2 the NFL teams out there, including an OUTSTANDING OL.

Maybe a 2nd rounder??? No way #14. 

I must admit I went in not knowing much about Barmore but keyed on him a few and he was the real deal. 

Reid has Jones as a mid to late second. Someone is going to have to show me film of him routinely not having a clean pocket or making an off schedule throw. I'd rather have Trask and I want nothing to do with him before Day 3