All not well in Zimsu land?

@"purplefaithful" said: you bring the chops Jimmy...

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: you bring the chops Jimmy...

I sent mike a picture of a breaded pork chop sandwich I started to play with last night,  think Chick Fil A,  but with pork... Piglet Fil A?

@"mjollnir_k" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: you bring the chops Jimmy...

I sent mike a picture of a breaded pork chop sandwich I started to play with last night,  think Chick Fil A,  but with pork... Piglet Fil A?

Dam... Now you have me thinking I need to try out a recipe.  

@"StickyBun" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I think Zimmer may be given a short extension....RS probably a longer one. 

Agreed. I think the organization, as progressive as it is, views Zimmer as an old school guy that has some limitations. I think ideally they'd love to turn it over to a younger, more modern thinking wunderkind. I mean Spielman has done a damn good job finding talent the last 5-6 years. But replacing Z aint easy when he keeps winning games. 

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I think Zimmer may be given a short extension....RS probably a longer one. 

Agreed. I think the organization, as progressive as it is, views Zimmer as an old school guy that has some limitations. I think ideally they'd love to turn it over to a younger, more modern thinking wunderkind. I mean Spielman has done a damn good job finding talent the last 5-6 years. But replacing Z aint easy when he keeps winning games. 

Did Spielman magically get better at drafting or has Zimmer helped him better evaluate the types of players that will be successful in his schemes?  I don't think Spielman would have the same track record without Zimmer... Zim is also the guy responsible for developing that talent.

I think the two go hand in hand when you're looking at the success or failure of the team.  Rick is in charge of making the picks (and should get credit for those picks when they boom or bust), but Zim certainly influences the board with his own take on the types of players he wants... and he has the job of developing those players into starters.

Put it this way, I don't know that Spielman would still be our GM if Zimmer hadn't been our Head Coach the past 6 years.  If we let Zim go (which would be stupid IMO), I think you elevate Paton and get rid of Spielman.  Clean house and start over.

Here is a little nugget too...  Zim LOVED Aaron Donald in 2014, we ended up with Barr instead...  just something to think about.

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: you bring the chops Jimmy...

I sent mike a picture of a breaded pork chop sandwich I started to play with last night,  think Chick Fil A,  but with pork... Piglet Fil A?

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: FWIW... Mike Zimmer is entering his seventh season with the Vikings. He’s coming off a 2019 in which he led his team to a 10-6 regular season record and a playoff victory against the Saints.It’s safe to say that if the Vikings want to repeat that success, they will have to do so with a more unknown roster. There’s also the added uncertainty that Zimmer is currently in the final year of his contract. When it comes to a new deal, Chad Graff of The Athletic reported that “there’s growing tension” between Zimmer and the Vikings. Graff also said this (H/T Bring Me The News):

“Zimmer has been irked by the fact that it’s now July and he remains without a new contract, according to multiple sources who requested anonymity to speak freely about a sensitive topic. He’s begun preparing for what seems like a growing possibility that he may coach this season in the final year of his contract.”

Not only is Zimmer in the final year of his contract, but Vikings general manager Rick Spielman is as well. It will be interesting to see what the team does with those two in the future — whether that’s keeping them around or trying something new.

Well, I've said it before but Rick Spielman deserves a damned medal. I'd sign him to a lifetime contract or something. He is truly the MVP of this organization and he's getting better, especially in the draft. 

Zimmer? I can see both sides. You can look at his defensive stats and his record and say that his lack of an extension is an injustice, but....man, game prep...those games where his team comes out and looks like they had no clue what the other team was going to do....there were too many of those. 

I think both will ultimately be extended though.  

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"JimmyinSD" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: you bring the chops Jimmy...

I sent mike a picture of a breaded pork chop sandwich I started to play with last night,  think Chick Fil A,  but with pork... Piglet Fil A?

Didn't momma tell you not to play with your food?

JMO, but you have to give Zim & Rick extensions. This team is a consistent contender, viewed much more positively than in years past, and in a pretty good position for the future as far as cap space, young incoming talent, etc.

Grass ain't always greener on the other side, and whoever were to replace Zim would have some pretty decent sized shoes to fill.

@"BarrNone55" said:

@"MaroonBells" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: FWIW... Mike Zimmer is entering his seventh season with the Vikings. He’s coming off a 2019 in which he led his team to a 10-6 regular season record and a playoff victory against the Saints.It’s safe to say that if the Vikings want to repeat that success, they will have to do so with a more unknown roster. There’s also the added uncertainty that Zimmer is currently in the final year of his contract. When it comes to a new deal, Chad Graff of The Athletic reported that “there’s growing tension” between Zimmer and the Vikings. Graff also said this (H/T Bring Me The News):

“Zimmer has been irked by the fact that it’s now July and he remains without a new contract, according to multiple sources who requested anonymity to speak freely about a sensitive topic. He’s begun preparing for what seems like a growing possibility that he may coach this season in the final year of his contract.”

Not only is Zimmer in the final year of his contract, but Vikings general manager Rick Spielman is as well. It will be interesting to see what the team does with those two in the future — whether that’s keeping them around or trying something new.

Well, I've said it before but Rick Spielman deserves a damned medal. I'd sign him to a lifetime contract or something. He is truly the MVP of this organization and he's getting better, especially in the draft. 

Zimmer? I can see both sides. You can look at his defensive stats and his record and say that his lack of an extension is an injustice, but....man, game prep...those games where his team comes out and looks like they had no clue what the other team was going to do....there were too many of those. 

I think both will ultimately be extended though.  

Mushroom cloud spotted over the Garden State.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I think Zimmer may be given a short extension....RS probably a longer one. 

Agreed. I think the organization, as progressive as it is, views Zimmer as an old school guy that has some limitations. I think ideally they'd love to turn it over to a younger, more modern thinking wunderkind. I mean Spielman has done a damn good job finding talent the last 5-6 years. But replacing Z aint easy when he keeps winning games. 

Did Spielman magically get better at drafting or has Zimmer helped him better evaluate the types of players that will be successful in his schemes?  I don't think Spielman would have the same track record without Zimmer... Zim is also the guy responsible for developing that talent.

I think the two go hand in hand when you're looking at the success or failure of the team.  Rick is in charge of making the picks (and should get credit for those picks when they boom or bust), but Zim certainly influences the board with his own take on the types of players he wants... and he has the job of developing those players into starters.

Put it this way, I don't know that Spielman would still be our GM if Zimmer hadn't been our Head Coach the past 6 years.  If we let Zim go (which would be stupid IMO), I think you elevate Paton and get rid of Spielman.  Clean house and start over.

Here is a little nugget too...  Zim LOVED Aaron Donald in 2014, we ended up with Barr instead...  just something to think about.

@"Wetlander" said:

@"StickyBun" said:

@"purplefaithful" said: I think Zimmer may be given a short extension....RS probably a longer one. 

Agreed. I think the organization, as progressive as it is, views Zimmer as an old school guy that has some limitations. I think ideally they'd love to turn it over to a younger, more modern thinking wunderkind. I mean Spielman has done a damn good job finding talent the last 5-6 years. But replacing Z aint easy when he keeps winning games. 

Did Spielman magically get better at drafting or has Zimmer helped him better evaluate the types of players that will be successful in his schemes?  I don't think Spielman would have the same track record without Zimmer... Zim is also the guy responsible for developing that talent.

I think the two go hand in hand when you're looking at the success or failure of the team.  Rick is in charge of making the picks (and should get credit for those picks when they boom or bust), but Zim certainly influences the board with his own take on the types of players he wants... and he has the job of developing those players into starters.

Put it this way, I don't know that Spielman would still be our GM if Zimmer hadn't been our Head Coach the past 6 years.  If we let Zim go (which would be stupid IMO), I think you elevate Paton and get rid of Spielman.  Clean house and start over.

Here is a little nugget too...  Zim LOVED Aaron Donald in 2014, we ended up with Barr instead...  just something to think about.