Vikings Tag Ant Man ™
@"Hawkvike25" said:@"Wetlander" said:@"BarrNone55" said:· 11mIan RapoportThe #Vikings surprisingly applied the franchise tag to safety Anthony Harris but acknowledged to teams that Harris could be had for a mid-to-late round draft pick, source said. A potential tag and trade candidate.Oh, fuck that. Mid to late? Hell no. Gotta at least pull a third.
I am hearing that is not accurate now and that the Vikings are planning to keep Harris. Initially it sounded like they were looking for a tag/trade for a mid-round pick, but other moves have changed their plans.
Gotta keep him, negotiate a new deal that pays something like $8MM this year. A 4th round pick or later for him is an absolute joke...only a crazy person would make that trade cough Bill O'Brien cough
This is where I am at. Until we applied the tag we had no leverage, but now the Vikings have control at 11 million on Harris the team has a little leverage, the question is now Harris has to gamble on his health and abilities to get the leverage back IMO. He can play out that 1 year will 11 million guaranteed, or maybe he would be interested in a 3 year contract with 20 million guaranteed and actually end up with more upfront cash in the form of a signing bonus that would lower his actual number this year?... or buffalo still has their fourth rounder this year if he wants to play hardball.....
If we trade him, could we at least call the Texans?
@"BarrNone55" said: If we trade him, could we at least call the Texans?They're out of picks... lol. I would call them on Will Fuller though. Injury prone but you could likely get him as a cheap deep threat.
Vikings: We're not committed to him
League Offices: oh, well how about a 5th?
Vikings: Actually, his deal works out pretty good for us.
League Offices: Ok. You know it's tough, but we could do a 3rd.
Vikings: I don't know what we were thinking, he's a star. Neverm-
Browns: a 2nd, a 4th, a 4th next year, Beckham, our bulldog mascot and the entire cheerleader squad. That's our offer!
I'd prefer to keep Harris at this point. I'd get trading him if we were in full rebuild mode, but we're in this reloading mode at the moment, so I'd rather not sell off good players for more day 3 picks at this point.
@"Tyr" said: I'd prefer to keep Harris at this point. I'd get trading him if we were in full rebuild mode, but we're in this reloading mode at the moment, so I'd rather not sell off good players for more day 3 picks at this point.
Agree, except I might balk on that if we're talking another 1st rounder.
Leverage is funky in this scenario - float out you want a 5th and see who calls. Get them to admit they value your guy when they offer a 3. Get that 3 down to a 2. Let Harris get some motion going on a long term extension there... float out you suddenly know better and can't make that deal. Does the certainty of a long term extension with Harris up the ante to a 1st to secure the value of locking up a player of his calibur long term? ... i dunno....
This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...
@"BlackMagic7" said:@"Tyr" said: I'd prefer to keep Harris at this point. I'd get trading him if we were in full rebuild mode, but we're in this reloading mode at the moment, so I'd rather not sell off good players for more day 3 picks at this point.Agree, except I might balk on that if we're talking another 1st rounder.
Leverage is funky in this scenario - float out you want a 5th and see who calls. Get them to admit they value your guy when they offer a 3. Get that 3 down to a 2. Let Harris get some motion going on a long term extension there... float out you suddenly know better and can't make that deal. Does the certainty of a long term extension with Harris up the ante to a 1st to secure the value of locking up a player of his calibur long term? ... i dunno....
I get moving him if someone offers something crazy and the difficulty of finding good safeties could be enough to start a bidding war. The main case for moving him would be getting a 3rd or higher, using that pick to draft a cheaper alternative at safety and clear $11 million in cap room and maybe use that on a corner. Though then we are left with Sendejo at safety and no guarantee that the player we draft to replace Harris will be any good. Regardless of what happens here, we are in for a very different roster next year and I'm curious to see if they can really reload on the fly.
@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...
@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...You’ve read this somewhere Barr?
@"BlackMagic7" said:@"Tyr" said: I'd prefer to keep Harris at this point. I'd get trading him if we were in full rebuild mode, but we're in this reloading mode at the moment, so I'd rather not sell off good players for more day 3 picks at this point.Agree, except I might balk on that if we're talking another 1st rounder.
Leverage is funky in this scenario - float out you want a 5th and see who calls. Get them to admit they value your guy when they offer a 3. Get that 3 down to a 2. Let Harris get some motion going on a long term extension there... float out you suddenly know better and can't make that deal. Does the certainty of a long term extension with Harris up the ante to a 1st to secure the value of locking up a player of his calibur long term? ... i dunno....
Wouldn't that piss off other NFL GM's and burn bridges?
@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...Cleveland has to pay Beckham,Landry and Hooper a lot of cap space.
@"Mattyman" said:I was surprised at the Hooper signing when they have a high pick in NJOKU sitting there as well. Maybe the Vikings can nab him for a 6th?@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play... Cleveland has to pay Beckham,Landry and Hooper a lot of cap space.
@"prairieghost" said:Yup, on Twitter. I think it's pure speculation. Prior talk of Landry being available + current talk of the Browns interest in Harris = Harris for Landry.@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...You’ve read this somewhere Barr?If I see it from a credible source, I'll post more.
Glad to see you, PG. :)
@"kmillard" said:I think the Browns keep him as Stefanski will want to run a lot of two TE sets.@"Mattyman" said:I was surprised at the Hooper signing when they have a high pick in NJOKU sitting there as well. Maybe the Vikings can nab him for a 6th?@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play... Cleveland has to pay Beckham,Landry and Hooper a lot of cap space.
@"BarrNone55" said:@"prairieghost" said:Yup, on Twitter. I think it's pure speculation. Prior talk of Landry being available + current talk of the Browns interest in Harris = Harris for Landry.@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...@"BarrNone55" said: This could be absolutely nothing, but Jarvis Landry might be in play...You’ve read this somewhere Barr?If I see it from a credible source, I'll post more.
Glad to see you, PG. :)
Same to you Barr :) Keep up the good sleuthing!
@"BarrNone55" said:The #Bills have done some work on their own players, agreeing to terms on a 2-year extension with S Jordan Poyer on a 2-year deal worth $20.5M, source said. One of the game’s most underrated players cashes in.
Hey Barr! Have you heard if the Vikings have reached out to any of the free agents outside of the team?
@"ArizonaViking" said:@"BarrNone55" said:The #Bills have done some work on their own players, agreeing to terms on a 2-year extension with S Jordan Poyer on a 2-year deal worth $20.5M, source said. One of the game’s most underrated players cashes in.Hey Barr! Have you heard if the Vikings have reached out to any of the free agents outside of the team?
Not a peep. I have to think it's going to be all about retaining their own guys.
@"ArizonaViking" said:@"BarrNone55" said:The #Bills have done some work on their own players, agreeing to terms on a 2-year extension with S Jordan Poyer on a 2-year deal worth $20.5M, source said. One of the game’s most underrated players cashes in.Hey Barr! Have you heard if the Vikings have reached out to any of the free agents outside of the team?
They were in on Connor McGovern until he signed with the Jets. They're also in on Joe Haeg but I don't know to what degree.
Edit Post (mod action — author will see a notice)
Warn Poster
Suspend User (3 days)
The user will be suspended for 3 days and will receive an email with the reason and information about how to appeal.