Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
The fact A1 thinks that there's some sort of accomplishment by Trump in North Korea speaks volumes to his psychosis.
I'm sure A1 must have ordered the coin from that historic meeting, thinks Trump won the Pulitzer already, and that North Korea has now denuclearized like Trump promised.
Trump got fucking played like a fiddle by NK like the great negotiator he claims to be.
I'm still laughing at the "pay to play emails and cops were horrified by what they found" nonsense.
Cuckooo!
Really? I think weve made some headway although small with North Korea. We were pretty much ready to blow each other off the map a few years back. Having a diplomatic meeting with NK is a big deal. Even if weve not got a closed deal.
Trump is an asshole and has an ego the size of MN but lets not take away from the positive things he has accomplished.
That's just it...I'm all for looking at all sides of it, but he continues stacking lies/distortions/WTF moments that add to a collection older than any player on the Vikings' roster.
Just blowing by these issues and insisting he's the "best" is...bizarre.
Dude, I've never said he was "the best". I've never said that about any president though if I had to pick one I might say Thomas Jefferson but I never met the man nor did we live during his time so its hard to get a real feel for what it was like back then. The adage victors write the history books comes to mind.
A1J called out The Imperial Combover as "the best" some posts back, hence the reference.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
The fact A1 thinks that there's some sort of accomplishment by Trump in North Korea speaks volumes to his psychosis.
I'm sure A1 must have ordered the coin from that historic meeting, thinks Trump won the Pulitzer already, and that North Korea has now denuclearized like Trump promised.
Trump got fucking played like a fiddle by NK like the great negotiator he claims to be.
I'm still laughing at the "pay to play emails and cops were horrified by what they found" nonsense.
Cuckooo!
Really? I think weve made some headway although small with North Korea. We were pretty much ready to blow each other off the map a few years back. Having a diplomatic meeting with NK is a big deal. Even if weve not got a closed deal.
Trump is an asshole and has an ego the size of MN but lets not take away from the positive things he has accomplished.
That's just it...I'm all for looking at all sides of it, but he continues stacking lies/distortions/WTF moments that add to a collection older than any player on the Vikings' roster.
Just blowing by these issues and insisting he's the "best" is...bizarre.
Dude, I've never said he was "the best". I've never said that about any president though if I had to pick one I might say Thomas Jefferson but I never met the man nor did we live during his time so its hard to get a real feel for what it was like back then. The adage victors write the history books comes to mind.
A1J called out The Imperial Combover as "the best" some posts back, hence the reference.
gotcha. no worries.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ SFVikeFan said:
The fact A1 thinks that there's some sort of accomplishment by Trump in North Korea speaks volumes to his psychosis.
I'm sure A1 must have ordered the coin from that historic meeting, thinks Trump won the Pulitzer already, and that North Korea has now denuclearized like Trump promised.
Trump got fucking played like a fiddle by NK like the great negotiator he claims to be.
I'm still laughing at the "pay to play emails and cops were horrified by what they found" nonsense.
Cuckooo!
Really? I think weve made some headway although small with North Korea. We were pretty much ready to blow each other off the map a few years back. Having a diplomatic meeting with NK is a big deal. Even if weve not got a closed deal.
Trump is an asshole and has an ego the size of MN but lets not take away from the positive things he has accomplished.
Ask Otto Warmbier's family:
Cynthia Warmbier, the mother of Otto Warmbier, said that diplomacy with North Korea's leader, Kim Jong-un, was a “charade” and likened Kim’s regime to “absolute evil.”
Trump approved $2 million to NK for Otto's healthcare expenses ... to receive a young man so tortured he was like a zombie that died within days after coming home.
US gave up military exercises with South Korea.
Trump declares "North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat".
Do you think North Korea remains a nuclear threat?" CNN's Jake Tapper asked Pompeo Sunday on "State of the Union."
"Yes," Pompeo replied.
The New York Times reported on November 12, 2018 that "satellite images suggest that the North has been engaged in a great deception" by offering to dismantle one missile launch site while continuing to develop sixteen others. The Times reported that American intelligence had determined that North Korea's production of fissile material, nuclear weapons and mobile missile systems had continued since the summit, adding that the missile network was "long known to American intelligence agencies but left undiscussed as President Trump claims to have neutralized the North’s nuclear threat."
The following day, Trump called the report of North Korea developing missile sites "inaccurate" and "just more fake news," adding "We fully know about the sites being discussed, nothing new."
In summary: Nuclear problem not dismantling, despite what Trump claims and calling his own intelligence reports "fake news". North Korea just fired short range missiles YESTERDAY.
At the same time, Trump continues to dismiss the conclusions of the CIA, State and Defense Departments and other agencies that North Korea will not abandon its nuclear weapons program, continuing to insist that he and Kim can negotiate a deal.
Trump got completely played, claiming victory in yet another self-created disaster. THEN JUST TO PROTECT HIS FUCKING EGO HE LIES TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND EVEN WORSE- HE THREATENS OUR NATIONAL SECURITY BY TRYING TO INSIST NORTH KOREA ISN'T STILL CONTINUING ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM.
Leave it to Trump supporters to find a silver lining in another foreign policy disaster.
Orange man bad. Democrat good. Impeach orange man.
I will 100% of the time take diplomatic communication with other nations whether they be friends or foes. You cannot get positive results without it. Not to mention its inexpensive realitivly speaking with the potential for the greater good of humanity.
You can check my post history. I think it was good that Obama talked to the Iranians. I disagree with the payoff but talking is always prefered to war in my book.
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
All I did was post what he "accomplished" with North Korea ... and because it happened to be somewhere between jack shit and a trainwreck it's "blind hate".
The dumbass LIED and declared NK no longer a nuclear threat.
Then dumbass called the CIA and his own US intelligence agencies "fake news" for disputing his bullshit statement about denuclearization.
And really AGR, the only 3 nations Trump shows any diplomacy towards are bloodthirsty murderous regimes of NK, Saudi Arabia, and Russia. That's wonderful "he fell in love" with love letters from a man who executes friends and family with an anti-aircraft gun and you find that engaging talks with him wonderful.
SO WHY THE FUCK CAN'T TRUMP SHOW THE SAME WARM FUZZY FEELINGS TOWARDS OUR ALLIES? Canada, Germany, Puerto Rico, France, England.... yeah he is a real wizard with diplomatic relationships alright. When Trump can show a modicum of respect to other nations, the UN, NATO that he does to his boyfriends in NK and Putin then you may have a point, until then ...
LMAO
Oh but I'm just showing blind hate for pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who can find ways to rationalize his clusterfucks who think we should all be applauding them as accomplishments.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
In the context of the North Korea post yes. Ive long said Im not his fan. All those things you listed are vey much valid. But there certainly has been positive things he’s accomplished. To come shit on him for being the first president in half a century to at least try dialog with NK seems absurd.
Hate him for resl reasons (like you listed). Give him credit where its due.
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
All I did was post what he "accomplished" with North Korea ... and because it happened to be somewhere between jack shit and a trainwreck it's "blind hate".
The dumbass LIED and declared NK no longer a nuclear threat.
Then dumbass called the CIA and his own US intelligence agencies "fake news" for disputing his bullshit statement about denuclearization.
And really AGR, the only 3 nations Trump shows any diplomacy towards are bloodthirsty murderous regimes of NK, Saudi Arabia, and Russia. That's wonderful "he fell in love" with love letters from a man who executes friends and family with an anti-aircraft gun and you find that engaging talks with him wonderful.
SO WHY THE FUCK CAN'T TRUMP SHOW THE SAME WARM FUZZY FEELINGS TOWARDS OUR ALLIES? Canada, Germany, Puerto Rico, France, England.... yeah he is a real wizard with diplomatic relationships alright. When Trump can show a modicum of respect to other nations, the UN, NATO that he does to his boyfriends in NK and Putin then you may have a point, until then ...
LMAO
Oh but I'm just showing blind hate for pointing out the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who can find ways to rationalize his clusterfucks who think we should all be applauding them as accomplishments.
Weve long been footing the bill for Nato and the UN. Im glad he’s pointing it out. You know....it fits with my fiscal responsibility stuff.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
In the context of the North Korea post yes. Ive long said Im not his fan. All those things you listed are vey much valid. But there certainly has been positive things he’s accomplished. To come shit on him for being the first president in half a century to at least try dialog with NK seems absurd.
Hate him for resl reasons (like you listed). Give him credit where its due.
OK...paying $2Million for a tortured AMERICAN CITIZEN that was returned near to death...
...I think the family should be able to push impeachment proceedings on that, alone.
I cannot imagine a single, possible way to justify that farce...other than the Cheeto being Kim's bitch. Nothing else computes.
As such, he's a potential traitor at the highest level, and, as a result, all possible penalties should be on the table if he's found guilty.
Quote: @Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
In the context of the North Korea post yes. Ive long said Im not his fan. All those things you listed are vey much valid. But there certainly has been positive things he’s accomplished. To come shit on him for being the first president in half a century to at least try dialog with NK seems absurd.
Hate him for resl reasons (like you listed). Give him credit where its due.
OK...paying $2Million for a tortured AMERICAN CITIZEN that was returned near to death...
...I think the family should be able to push impeachment proceedings on that, alone.
I cannot imagine a single, possible way to justify that farce...other than the Cheeto being Kim's bitch. Nothing else computes.
As such, he's a potential traitor at the highest level, and, as a result, all possible penalties should be on the table if he's found guilty.
Seriously Zanary??? THATS what makes you mad??? How did you feel when the REAL TRAITOR Obuma traded 5 high level terrorists for another traitor in Bergdahl?? Or how about the 100 million in cash he sent to Iran in CASH on his last day???
Quote: @Sir Viking Bob VWO said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ Zanary said:
@ AGRforever said:
So please take your blind hate for the man and bug off.
Gotta interject, here:
is mentioning facts (fraud payoffs, bankruptcies, an impossible number of lies spanning decades, moronic rhetoric, hypocrisy, and so much more) "blind hate"?
Because, it seems like mentioning things about Cheeto-boi that are referenced facts are labeled as "hate" by his fan club....
In the context of the North Korea post yes. Ive long said Im not his fan. All those things you listed are vey much valid. But there certainly has been positive things he’s accomplished. To come shit on him for being the first president in half a century to at least try dialog with NK seems absurd.
Hate him for resl reasons (like you listed). Give him credit where its due.
OK...paying $2Million for a tortured AMERICAN CITIZEN that was returned near to death...
...I think the family should be able to push impeachment proceedings on that, alone.
I cannot imagine a single, possible way to justify that farce...other than the Cheeto being Kim's bitch. Nothing else computes.
As such, he's a potential traitor at the highest level, and, as a result, all possible penalties should be on the table if he's found guilty.
Seriously Zanary??? THATS what makes you mad??? How did you feel when the REAL TRAITOR Obuma traded 5 high level terrorists for another traitor in Bergdahl?? Or how about the 100 million in cash he sent to Iran in CASH on his last day???
Actually, I commented on those topics previously...but we're talking about our current Oval Office Embarrassment, now.
Can you defend, in any way, this tragedy without trying to steer the topic years back?
2 million for the "care" of a wrongfully imprisoned/tortured American citizen.
Don't bring up Obama, don't pull the spineless, "WELL, WHAT ABOUT WHEN..." bullshit.
Nut up, and defend the guy you've been so proud of voting for...on the merits of his own actions/decisions, on THIS topic.
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