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So no collusion.
Quote: @A1Janitor said:
I haven’t given opinions.  I gave facts.   

Keep watching.   It will all come out. 
What facts have you stated?  "Policies with real results"?  

Well yes, I suppose that's a pretty generic "fact".  And here's another fact:  Trump's tariffs have INCREASED the trade deficit by 19%.  His economic policies are literally having the OPPOSITE effect of what he promised. 

Now I suppose you could hang your hat on that being a "real result", but probably not the one you thought you were getting. 

Then again, Trump did say he loved the uneducated and if he ever ran for office it would be on a Republican ticket, because GOP voters tend to believe anything.   He was right there at least.


Oh believe me, I know it will all come out too.  Might even have to wait a few more years until he is out of office, but oh brother it is going to come out.  I have always believed the Mueller report and Congress is the least of his worries, but the SDNY is going to be a very rude awakening for a lot of you when those chickens come home to roost.  They already nailed his "charity" organization and the whole family is forbidden from being involved in non-profit organizations due to their brazen tax evasion and robbing it blind.

Stealing the money tabbed for kids cancer?  Disgusting, sick fucks.
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Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@A1Janitor said:
I haven’t given opinions.  I gave facts.   

Keep watching.   It will all come out. 
What facts have you stated?  "Policies with real results"?  

Well yes, I suppose that's a pretty generic "fact".  And here's another fact:  Trump's tariffs have INCREASED the trade deficit by 19%.  His economic policies are literally having the OPPOSITE effect of what he promised. 

Now I suppose you could hang your hat on that being a "real result", but probably not the one you thought you were getting. 

Then again, Trump did say he loved the uneducated and if he ever ran for office it would be on a Republican ticket, because GOP voters tend to believe anything.   He was right there at least.


Oh believe me, I know it will all come out too.  Might even have to wait a few more years until he is out of office, but oh brother it is going to come out.  I ha e always believed the Mueller report and Congress is the least of his worries, but the SDNY is going to be a very rude awakening for a lot of you when those chickens come home to roost.
LOL fruit from the poisonous tree.  SDNY answers to Barr.

Couldn’t get him on the russian hoax, so you think he should be investigated for what exactly?

What’s the stock market at?  Unemployment?  I will let you give the answer.


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Quote: @KingBash said:


You're an adult. Quit with the "name calling" shit. 

I'm not hoping to change anybody's mind. At this point it's just about witnessing this lunacy and pointing it out.
I will continue to point it out.  I don't see any reason not to.  I'm more interested in cultivating a community where people don't belittle each other than letting you have your outbursts and risk alienating a quality poster.
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Quote: @A1Janitor said:
@SFVikeFan said:
@A1Janitor said:
I haven’t given opinions.  I gave facts.   

Keep watching.   It will all come out. 
What facts have you stated?  "Policies with real results"?  

Well yes, I suppose that's a pretty generic "fact".  And here's another fact:  Trump's tariffs have INCREASED the trade deficit by 19%.  His economic policies are literally having the OPPOSITE effect of what he promised. 

Now I suppose you could hang your hat on that being a "real result", but probably not the one you thought you were getting. 

Then again, Trump did say he loved the uneducated and if he ever ran for office it would be on a Republican ticket, because GOP voters tend to believe anything.   He was right there at least.


Oh believe me, I know it will all come out too.  Might even have to wait a few more years until he is out of office, but oh brother it is going to come out.  I ha e always believed the Mueller report and Congress is the least of his worries, but the SDNY is going to be a very rude awakening for a lot of you when those chickens come home to roost.
LOL fruit from the poisonous tree.  SDNY answers to Barr.

Couldn’t get him on the russian hoax, so you think he should be investigated for what exactly?

What’s the stock market at?  Unemployment?  I will let you give the answer.


I have no idea what you mean "fruit from the poisonous tree".   

You are seriously this clueless?   Of course you are, you're still blaming "the deep state" for all of Trump's criminal activities.  

Try this for starters:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-inauguration-donations-funds-missing-steve-kerrigan-congress-714118

https://nypost.com/2018/12/13/feds-launch-probe-into-trumps-inauguration-spending/

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/08/foreigners-hid-illegal-donations-to-trump-inaugural-fund-in-shell-companies.html

From illegal campaign contributions by foreigners (campaign fraud) to misuse of campaign funds (fraud, embezzlement, tax evasion) to name a few ...

Washington-based lobbyist Sam Patten, a former colleague of Paul Manafort, admitted last year that he illegally funneled $50,000 to Trump’s inauguration from a Ukrainian oligarch.


As for the stock market, do you own any stocks?  Have a 401k?   How did it do in 2018?   

January 2018: Trump announced his first economic policies, prior to that he made zero changes to the economy he inherited from Obama - which was already booming (6900 pts to nearly 20,000 in 2016).  No changes in 2017, the trajectory continued.  

Stock market peaks in January 2018 at 26,400 in the 3rd week of January just 3 days after Trump announces his trade war and his first tariffs with China.  

15 months later April 5, 2019: Dow Jones is now sitting at 26,424 at closing Friday.   So after 15 months of Trump's economic policies, the Dow Jones has gained FUCKING ZERO.   

Congrats!   So much winning!   Glad you brought it up just so I can show you the timelines of how the market has responded to the stable genius and his trade wars - all Trump did was manage to de-rail the hottest stock market in history created by Obama and create a very unstable  roller coaster stock market that's spent all of 2018 swinging wildly without any net gains.

But "trade wars are so easy to win" .... still waiting for the winning to start.
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I don’t about all of that.  

Dow was 18,332 on 11/08/2016. Today it is at 26,425.

On the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s win in the U.S. presidential race, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is showing its biggest post-Election Day gain in more than 70 years.
The Dow DJIA+0.15%  has advanced 28.50% since Nov. 8, 2016. That represents its best performance after a White House contest since 1945, when the blue-chip gauge was up 29.83% in a year following the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt and his vice president Harry S. Truman. (FDR died early his fourth term, putting Truman in the Oval Office in April 1945.) The Dow made its debut in 1896.
You forgot about unemployment numbers.  
The US unemployment rate came in at 3.8 percent in March 2019, unchanged from the previous month's figure and in line with market expectations. The number of unemployed persons decreased by 24 thousand to 6.2 million while employment dropped by 201 thousand to 156.7 million. The participation rate fell to 63 percent in March from 63.2 in February. Unemployment Rate in the United States averaged 5.76 percent from 1948 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 10.80 percent in November of 1982 and a record low of 2.50 percent in May of 1953.Obama was at 5%.
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Collusion found!

Ukrainian sources told award winning investigative journalist John Solomon that the Trump Justice Department is not following up on evidence given to the department showing Democrats and their allies in Kiev sought to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.John Solomon interviewed Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of the Prosecutor General’s International Legal Cooperation Department.
The Ukrainians gave John Solomon a list of evidence of Democrat wrongdoing which included big names like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden:
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  • Sworn statements from two Ukrainian officials admitting that their agency tried to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election in favor of Hillary Clinton. The effort included leaking an alleged ledger showing payments to then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort;
  • Contacts between Democratic figures in Washington and Ukrainian officials that involved passing along dirt on Donald Trump;
  • Financial records showing a Ukrainian natural gas company routed more than $3 million to American accounts tied to Hunter Biden, younger son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, who managed U.S.-Ukrainian relations for the Obama administration. Biden’s son served on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma Holdings;
  • Records that Vice President Biden pressured Ukrainian officials in March 2016 to fire the prosecutor who oversaw an investigation of Burisma Holdings and who planned to interview Hunter Biden about the financial transfers;
  • Correspondence showing members of the State Department and U.S. embassy in Kiev interfered or applied pressure in criminal cases on Ukrainian soil;
  • Disbursements of as much as $7 billion in Ukrainian funds that prosecutors believe may have been misappropriated or taken out of the country, including to the United States.
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Quote: @A1Janitor said:
I don’t about all of that.  

Dow was 18,332 on 11/08/2016. Today it is at 26,425.

On the one-year anniversary of Donald Trump’s win in the U.S. presidential race, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is showing its biggest post-Election Day gain in more than 70 years.
The Dow DJIA+0.15%  has advanced 28.50% since Nov. 8, 2016. That represents its best performance after a White House contest since 1945, when the blue-chip gauge was up 29.83% in a year following the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt and his vice president Harry S. Truman. (FDR died early his fourth term, putting Truman in the Oval Office in April 1945.) The Dow made its debut in 1896.
You forgot about unemployment numbers.  
The US unemployment rate came in at 3.8 percent in March 2019, unchanged from the previous month's figure and in line with market expectations. The number of unemployed persons decreased by 24 thousand to 6.2 million while employment dropped by 201 thousand to 156.7 million. The participation rate fell to 63 percent in March from 63.2 in February. Unemployment Rate in the United States averaged 5.76 percent from 1948 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 10.80 percent in November of 1982 and a record low of 2.50 percent in May of 1953.
Obama was at 5%.
Clearly you have no understanding of economics. 

Do you think the economy magically flips a switch overnight?  The economy was still running under Obama's policies until Trump makes his own, tell me you understand this.  And in 2016 and 2017 Trump passed no economic policies.  If you think that information is false, please post what legislation or policies were passed.  

I could post the unemployment figures, stock levels, and other economic indicators of when Obama came to office facing 2 wars in Middle East and our worst recession since the Great Depression vs what Trump was given but what's the point.  Explaining economics to Trumpers is like teaching a fish to ride a bicycle. 

Thanks for the laughs, I need to contribute some more taxes to red states welfare in the morning.  
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For the eight years of Obama we heard the bad economy was Bush’s fault.  

Now the Trump tax cuts and regulation cuts lead to great economic numbers ... and its because of Obama.  

k.  

Just like the 80s successes were the long term plan of Carter.  
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Quote: @A1Janitor said:
For the eight years of Obama we heard the bad economy was Bush’s fault.  

Now the Trump tax cuts and regulation cuts lead to great economic numbers ... and its because of Obama.  

k.  

Just like the 80s successes were the long term plan of Carter.  
I gave you too much credit, no you evidently don't understand how the economy works. 

Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed December 22, 2017, went into effect January 1, 2018.

Thanks for proving my point, Trump made no changes to Obama's economic policies for 2017.  Now I understand Kingbash's frustration, it's like arguing with a child who doesn't understand the adult world. 

You should really quit while you think you're ahead. 
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