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So no collusion.
#71
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@greediron said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Done with your ignorance pumpf.  You cling to lies and fairy tales.  Planned Parenthood does ONLY abortions and doesn't provide birth control, STD testing and other services?  Even your buddy Savannah knows abortions are only 10-12% of their services.  This is why it's useless to argue with you because you don't believe in reality, you just believe in your own opinions no matter how incorrect or misguided. You obviously don't have any idea what you're talking about on most topics you bring up.

Case in point, the Mueller investigation didn't cost $30 million. You realize it made money from confiscation of assets seized from Manafort right?  No of course you don't.  You don't care that corporations don't pay their share and seem to think it's ok for the government to steal our social security  benefits because budget cuts have to come from somewhere!  You'd rather support an overly bloated defense budget because we couldn't possibly fund children's healthcare programs.  What a sick mindset you have, take care of the rich and corporations and screw everyone else including yourself. 

No reply to the links I posted?  You suddenly went quiet when I posted articles about everything you dismissed as opinions.  Sucks to admit you live in an environment where you don't attempt to digest information that disagrees with your prejudiced opinions. 
speaking of lies and fairy tales. 
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
 Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with you uneducated conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...

easy to debunk.  When PP counts one years prescription of birth control as "12 services" 


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#72
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with many of you conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...
You won't respond to the one question I asked you... but here I am again, responding to you.

Gee, you got your numbers from Planned Parenthood?  Wow.  Reminds me of when Daryl (on the Office) said that he was responsible for overseeing billions of items being shipped each year. When questioned, he confessed: "pieces of paper".  With PP, they cook the numbers in such a way to be able to make it seem like they're doing all kinds of noble work.  Greed pointed one aspect out (which you'll ignore).  I've heard it put another way: "It would be like the NFL saying that because they sold 5 million hot dogs in a season, and there were only 256 games, football is only .005 percent of what they do," 

I didn't look at your links, because I don't care about YOUR opinion, because it is so hopelessly wrong.  Shoot, I could look at them and conclude that- in those cases- you're right; but it wouldn't matter, because Democrats kill unborn children... encourage the targeting of preborn children with Down Syndrome... and are even OK with allowing born children to be left to die.  So, if you want to argue that Trump is bad, go ahead.  I might even agree with you.  But he's not a baby-killer.  If you guys had anyone worth considering, I would.  But you don't.  So we're stuck with Trump. 

As for adopting children: none.  But only because we can't afford it.  We could... if the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to PP went to making adoption more affordable.  But we have taken classes to become foster parents... and we do give money to support an orphanage.  And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
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#73
Quote: @pumpf said:
 And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
Sorry to hear that Pumpf.
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#74
Quote: @greediron said:
@KingBash said:
@greediron said:
@KingBash said:
@pumpf said:
@KingBash said:
@pumpf said:
Hahaha you're just wrong. What's not factual in that?!

This is scary that so much of the country is doing this. 
These are not "facts":

Trump lied about his knowledge and involvement with Russia.  He sided with Putin's word over our own US intelligence agencies, that is also a fact.  He had 2 Chiefs of Staff, both military generals, resign, one who admitted he quit because of his pro-Russian stances.  All publicly known facts.

The smoking gun of did Trump coordinate all this with Russia couldn't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  But sweet Jesus that doesn't change the facts of Trump lying about meeting Russians, of Trump Jr. accepting an invitation to get dirt on an opponent from a hostile nation, and Trump's campaign manager meeting with a Russian to give polling information to.  

I realize you boys are taking a vixtory lap because your Trump appointed lapdog AG says he reviewed 700 pages of a report in 48 hours and found no evidence, but not all of us fell off the turnip truck yesterday. 

Regardless of lack of charges doesn't mean Trump wasn't doing some extremely shady, unethical shit that if the Democrats had done, you'd all be losing your minds right now and you all fucking know it.


But hey, let's have a cheer for Betsy Devos cutting funds for the Special Olympics because we needed to prioritize the millionaires getting tax cuts to make America great again.  Yipeee!

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Those are pretty obviously opinions.  As for Trump taking sides with Russia, it appears that they may have been more trustworthy than our own intelligence community.  Have you read anything about how all this process got started... and the lengths that the DOJ / FBI went to (at the end of the Obama administration) to protect / shield Clinton for HER illegal activities?  If so, then you'd understand how- after just taking over as president- Trump might not have trusted US intelligence, especially when there was a coordinated effort ON THEIR PART to tilt the election in one direction.  Is that better (more ethical) than the Russians doing it?  Yeah, I guess so... but considering their own positions, they're not exactly "clean".

And remind me again, which president was it who said- under his breath (and presumably off the record) that he'd have more "flexibility" to work with the Russians once he was re-elected?

And remind me again which political party went crazy when a Republican candidate for president warned that Russia was a "problem"?

I've always considered you to be pretty straightforward and intellectually honest about things.  In fact, I've admired your willingness to speak truth- no matter how uncomfortable it might be for others to hear.  But with these comments, you seem to have lost your skeptical, open-mindedness... to go full "in-the-tank" for the Democrats.  Oh well...
Likewise. You've lost it completely. I'm not full "in-the-tank" for the Democrats. Just calling out a complete farce in office. That has nothing to do with Obama/Hillary/the Democrats.
actually, this had everything to do with them.  You recall Trump was running against Hillary.  2 years of Democrats trying to prove that Trump cheated Hillary out of the presidency.  An investigation that started with Obama's FBI. 
Would really like to see the report instead of Trumper Barr summarizing 2 years of research into 4 pages and then McConnell and Nunnes demanding nobody ever see it.

Yeah, totally on the up and up.

But as you've made very, very clear when the Democrats are in office: you're all about the truth. So I'm glad you agree with me!

I am for truth no matter which side is in power.  I probably was more vigilant when Bush was in office because he had many conservatives fooled into thinking he was conservative.  I railed against his power grabs and executive orders more than I did against Obama. 

As to the report, are you telling me you are going to read and understand 300 pages of legal mumbo jumbo? 

The democrat narratives are so hilarious.  "just wait until..." Manfort is arrested, oh boy Trump is done.  and then next guy, oh boy Trump is finished.  "wait until Mueller gives his report"  the walls are closing in.  Then Mueller sez no collusion.  Oh wait Barr has the final word.  No collusion.  "Mueller is an idiot and Barr is protecting the prez."

You actually think that seeing the whole report would change the narrative?  Pay attention.  The Mueller investigation which was what every Dem pinned their hopes and fantasies on wasn't what they wanted.  It stated exactly the opposite of what they said for 2 years. 
Every legal interpretation I've seen was that Mueller concluded that there wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the president committed a crime. He also went on to say that it doesn't exonerate him. Stop twisting his words.

So now, as predicted, TRUMP-APPOINTED William Barr, who 9 months ago basically promised the president he'd be safe, did his job just as King Baby had hoped. And now the Republicans will do everything they can that would look bad for him. 

Am I going to read it? No, of course not. Just like you didn't read the Ken Starr report. I'll let watchdog groups, who LOVE doing this and do it for a living, go through and pull the stuff that the American people should know. (Although it's probably already stuff most people know, but people like you should pay attention to.)

Which leads me to my last bolded point: says who?! You didn't read it either! You're going off what Trump says as he walks around yelling out, "See?! No collusion!" because he stacked the deck with henchmen Republican lawmakers. 

On a more personal note, I just did my taxes. Fuck Trump.
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#75
Quote: @KingBash said:
@greediron said:
I am for truth no matter which side is in power.  I probably was more vigilant when Bush was in office because he had many conservatives fooled into thinking he was conservative.  I railed against his power grabs and executive orders more than I did against Obama. 

As to the report, are you telling me you are going to read and understand 300 pages of legal mumbo jumbo? 

The democrat narratives are so hilarious.  "just wait until..." Manfort is arrested, oh boy Trump is done.  and then next guy, oh boy Trump is finished.  "wait until Mueller gives his report"  the walls are closing in.  Then Mueller sez no collusion.  Oh wait Barr has the final word.  No collusion.  "Mueller is an idiot and Barr is protecting the prez."

You actually think that seeing the whole report would change the narrative?  Pay attention.  The Mueller investigation which was what every Dem pinned their hopes and fantasies on wasn't what they wanted.  It stated exactly the opposite of what they said for 2 years. 
Every legal interpretation I've seen was that Mueller concluded that there wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the president committed a crime. He also went on to say that it doesn't exonerate him. Stop twisting his words.

So now, as predicted, TRUMP-APPOINTED William Barr, who 9 months ago basically promised the president he'd be safe, did his job just as King Baby had hoped. And now the Republicans will do everything they can that would look bad for him. 

Am I going to read it? No, of course not. Just like you didn't read the Ken Starr report. I'll let watchdog groups, who LOVE doing this and do it for a living, go through and pull the stuff that the American people should know. (Although it's probably already stuff most people know, but people like you should pay attention to.)

Which leads me to my last bolded point: says who?! You didn't read it either! You're going off what Trump says as he walks around yelling out, "See?! No collusion!" because he stacked the deck with henchmen Republican lawmakers. 

On a more personal note, I just did my taxes. Fuck Trump.
Yes, no collusion.  The president did not commit a crime or try to have the russians influence the election.  At least that is a higher bar than committed crimes but didn't "have intent" like Hillary.
I didn't vote for Trump either.  But at least I am honest enough to admit I was wrong in large part about what kind of president he would be.  He has far exceeded my expectations.
As to "stacking the deck" I suppose Mueller is a secret russian spy as well.  The excuses are nonstop.
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#76
Quote: @pumpf said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with many of you conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...
You won't respond to the one question I asked you... but here I am again, responding to you.

Gee, you got your numbers from Planned Parenthood?  Wow.  Reminds me of when Daryl (on the Office) said that he was responsible for overseeing billions of items being shipped each year. When questioned, he confessed: "pieces of paper".  With PP, they cook the numbers in such a way to be able to make it seem like they're doing all kinds of noble work.  Greed pointed one aspect out (which you'll ignore).  I've heard it put another way: "It would be like the NFL saying that because they sold 5 million hot dogs in a season, and there were only 256 games, football is only .005 percent of what they do," 

I didn't look at your links, because I don't care about YOUR opinion, because it is so hopelessly wrong.  Shoot, I could look at them and conclude that- in those cases- you're right; but it wouldn't matter, because Democrats kill unborn children... encourage the targeting of preborn children with Down Syndrome... and are even OK with allowing born children to be left to die.  So, if you want to argue that Trump is bad, go ahead.  I might even agree with you.  But he's not a baby-killer.  If you guys had anyone worth considering, I would.  But you don't.  So we're stuck with Trump. 

As for adopting children: none.  But only because we can't afford it.  We could... if the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to PP went to making adoption more affordable.  But we have taken classes to become foster parents... and we do give money to support an orphanage.  And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
You said "ALL" when  clearly that's already been proven complete bullshit, now you have changed your argument to what % of their services are abortions.  So now you admit PP does more than just perform abortions? 

So right there, you just moved the goalposts and admitted I was correct.  Now you want to change your argument to what %, but we both know you have no idea of it's10, 20, or 50 but that doesn'tmatter because I'vealready proven it's nowhere near "ALL" as you continue to claim like a blithering idiot. 

To further illustrate your lack of reading comprehension, those numbers were not from Planned Parenthood.  They were from a 3rd party website factcheck.org.

You don't like links because they are my opinions?  LOL!  Do you think I wrote those articles?  Do you think those direct quotes from Trump are "opinions"?  Why is it you refuse to read facts?  Are you afraid of truth, prefer to stay in your own echo  chamber of bullshit?  You'd rather make a fool of yourself when someone actually posts quotes and links when you're the one who demanded them to begin with?  

You're embarrassing yourself at this point.  

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#77
Quote: @pumpf said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with many of you conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...
You won't respond to the one question I asked you... but here I am again, responding to you.

Gee, you got your numbers from Planned Parenthood?  Wow.  Reminds me of when Daryl (on the Office) said that he was responsible for overseeing billions of items being shipped each year. When questioned, he confessed: "pieces of paper".  With PP, they cook the numbers in such a way to be able to make it seem like they're doing all kinds of noble work.  Greed pointed one aspect out (which you'll ignore).  I've heard it put another way: "It would be like the NFL saying that because they sold 5 million hot dogs in a season, and there were only 256 games, football is only .005 percent of what they do," 

I didn't look at your links, because I don't care about YOUR opinion, because it is so hopelessly wrong.  Shoot, I could look at them and conclude that- in those cases- you're right; but it wouldn't matter, because Democrats kill unborn children... encourage the targeting of preborn children with Down Syndrome... and are even OK with allowing born children to be left to die.  So, if you want to argue that Trump is bad, go ahead.  I might even agree with you.  But he's not a baby-killer.  If you guys had anyone worth considering, I would.  But you don't.  So we're stuck with Trump. 

As for adopting children: none.  But only because we can't afford it.  We could... if the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to PP went to making adoption more affordable.  But we have taken classes to become foster parents... and we do give money to support an orphanage.  And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
Oh and pumpf, Planned Parenthood doesn't receive "hundreds of billions of dollars" from the government.  Jesus you're worse than Trump himself with the clueless exaggerations.  Being a non-profit you could  look up their funding,  but that might take effort and an IQ higher than 50 on your end.

Their total revenue for 2014 was $1.3 billion, of which $528 million was from government funding.  

$500 million is much less than "hundreds of billions" as you yet again incorrectly claim - you sound like Trump himself.  I could give you a link to the data but what's the use ... you won't read it and will still insist it's still hundreds of billions.

But hey maybe if taxpayers weren't spending several billion to fund a worthless wall to keep brown people out, or spending tens of billions to fund the bailouts for farmers who had the soybean market destroyed by Trump's own tariffs when China who buys 90% of their crop decided to buy from South America instead, or spending trillions in corporate welfare or giving tax cuts for the rich in the billions there would be more money for you to adopt all those kids you want ... but yeeahhhh blame it on the funding of $500 million to PP.
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#78
Quote: @SFVikeFan said:
@pumpf said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with many of you conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...
You won't respond to the one question I asked you... but here I am again, responding to you.

Gee, you got your numbers from Planned Parenthood?  Wow.  Reminds me of when Daryl (on the Office) said that he was responsible for overseeing billions of items being shipped each year. When questioned, he confessed: "pieces of paper".  With PP, they cook the numbers in such a way to be able to make it seem like they're doing all kinds of noble work.  Greed pointed one aspect out (which you'll ignore).  I've heard it put another way: "It would be like the NFL saying that because they sold 5 million hot dogs in a season, and there were only 256 games, football is only .005 percent of what they do," 

I didn't look at your links, because I don't care about YOUR opinion, because it is so hopelessly wrong.  Shoot, I could look at them and conclude that- in those cases- you're right; but it wouldn't matter, because Democrats kill unborn children... encourage the targeting of preborn children with Down Syndrome... and are even OK with allowing born children to be left to die.  So, if you want to argue that Trump is bad, go ahead.  I might even agree with you.  But he's not a baby-killer.  If you guys had anyone worth considering, I would.  But you don't.  So we're stuck with Trump. 

As for adopting children: none.  But only because we can't afford it.  We could... if the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to PP went to making adoption more affordable.  But we have taken classes to become foster parents... and we do give money to support an orphanage.  And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
Oh and pumpf, Planned Parenthood doesn't receive "hundreds of billions of dollars" from the government.  Jesus you're worse than Trump himself with the clueless exaggerations.  Being a non-profit you could  look up their funding,  but that might take effort and an IQ higher than 50 on your end.

Their total revenue for 2014 was $1.3 billion, of which $528 million was from government funding.  

$500 million is much less than "hundreds of billions" as you yet again incorrectly claim - you sound like Trump himself.  I could give you a link to the data but what's the use ... you won't read it and will still insist it's still hundreds of billions.

But hey maybe if taxpayers weren't spending several billion to fund a worthless wall to keep brown people out, or spending tens of billions to fund the bailouts for farmers who had the soybean market destroyed by Trump's own tariffs when China who buys 90% of their crop decided to buy from South America instead, or spending trillions in corporate welfare or giving tax cuts for the rich in the billions there would be more money for you to adopt all those kids you want ... but yeeahhhh blame it on the funding of $500 million to PP.
how many years of 500 million equals a billion?  and I believe it was aroun 900 mil a few years ago.  Yeah, maybe not quite in the hundreds of billions, but not quite what you pretend either. 

And to be fair, the GOP is just as culpable with funding PP.  They had the house, senate and presidency yet failed to even talk about defunding PP.  So I don't pretend the GOP is the answer.  They are hypocrites.  But the Dems openly embrace infanticide now. 

OH and who do you think PP targets?  Maybe those "brown people" you refer to? 
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#79
Quote: @greediron said:
@SFVikeFan said:
@pumpf said:
@SFVikeFan said:
Speaking of dumbassery:

https://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/planned-p

Abortions accounted for 3 percent of the nearly 10.6 million total services provided by Planned Parenthood clinics in 2013, according to its annual report.
Some services it provided in addition to abortions were:
  • 4.5 million tests and treatment for sexually transmitted infections
  • 3.6 million contraception related services
  • 935,573 cancer screenings including breast exams and Pap tests
  • 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services
Go ahead and dispute it with a fact checked source if you're so well informed ...


Oh and Pumpf, of course you didn't look at my links.  Why?  Because they are facts that prove once again you're just an ignorant dipshit that accuses me of opinions and claims they're not facts, makes fun for me not posting sources, and when I do post sources to back up my claims to prove my claims are factual, you turn and tuck your tail and act like it didn't happen.

And yet here we are again ... you two looking like Dumb and Dumber because you have no idea what PP offers but insisting I'm wrong.

This is the problem with many of you conservatives.  Too many of you suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome and have no idea what's fact vs fiction.

By the way pumpf how many kids have you adopted?   I assume you must have given the Duggar family a run for their money ...
You won't respond to the one question I asked you... but here I am again, responding to you.

Gee, you got your numbers from Planned Parenthood?  Wow.  Reminds me of when Daryl (on the Office) said that he was responsible for overseeing billions of items being shipped each year. When questioned, he confessed: "pieces of paper".  With PP, they cook the numbers in such a way to be able to make it seem like they're doing all kinds of noble work.  Greed pointed one aspect out (which you'll ignore).  I've heard it put another way: "It would be like the NFL saying that because they sold 5 million hot dogs in a season, and there were only 256 games, football is only .005 percent of what they do," 

I didn't look at your links, because I don't care about YOUR opinion, because it is so hopelessly wrong.  Shoot, I could look at them and conclude that- in those cases- you're right; but it wouldn't matter, because Democrats kill unborn children... encourage the targeting of preborn children with Down Syndrome... and are even OK with allowing born children to be left to die.  So, if you want to argue that Trump is bad, go ahead.  I might even agree with you.  But he's not a baby-killer.  If you guys had anyone worth considering, I would.  But you don't.  So we're stuck with Trump. 

As for adopting children: none.  But only because we can't afford it.  We could... if the hundreds of billions of dollars that went to PP went to making adoption more affordable.  But we have taken classes to become foster parents... and we do give money to support an orphanage.  And, yes: we would've liked to have more children, but we were unable for a long time... and then we lost another child before she had a chance to be born.  Thanks for asking.
Oh and pumpf, Planned Parenthood doesn't receive "hundreds of billions of dollars" from the government.  Jesus you're worse than Trump himself with the clueless exaggerations.  Being a non-profit you could  look up their funding,  but that might take effort and an IQ higher than 50 on your end.

Their total revenue for 2014 was $1.3 billion, of which $528 million was from government funding.  

$500 million is much less than "hundreds of billions" as you yet again incorrectly claim - you sound like Trump himself.  I could give you a link to the data but what's the use ... you won't read it and will still insist it's still hundreds of billions.

But hey maybe if taxpayers weren't spending several billion to fund a worthless wall to keep brown people out, or spending tens of billions to fund the bailouts for farmers who had the soybean market destroyed by Trump's own tariffs when China who buys 90% of their crop decided to buy from South America instead, or spending trillions in corporate welfare or giving tax cuts for the rich in the billions there would be more money for you to adopt all those kids you want ... but yeeahhhh blame it on the funding of $500 million to PP.
how many years of 500 million equals a billion?  and I believe it was aroun 900 mil a few years ago.  Yeah, maybe not quite in the hundreds of billions, but not quite what you pretend either. 

And to be fair, the GOP is just as culpable with funding PP.  They had the house, senate and presidency yet failed to even talk about defunding PP.  So I don't pretend the GOP is the answer.  They are hypocrites.  But the Dems openly embrace infanticide now. 

OH and who do you think PP targets?  Maybe those "brown people" you refer to? 
Uh, poor people of all colors?  Without PP you're forcing even more women and children into welfare, increasing breast cancer and STD's.  Did you fail to see the stats of how many women receive services that have nothing to do with abortions?  Not one penny of that $500 million goes towards abortions either.  

Why do conservatives hate women's healthcare so much?   It's amazing how you care so much for an unborn fetus but you're downright spiteful towards the health of grown women.
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@KingBash said:
@greediron said:
I am for truth no matter which side is in power.  I probably was more vigilant when Bush was in office because he had many conservatives fooled into thinking he was conservative.  I railed against his power grabs and executive orders more than I did against Obama. 

As to the report, are you telling me you are going to read and understand 300 pages of legal mumbo jumbo? 

The democrat narratives are so hilarious.  "just wait until..." Manfort is arrested, oh boy Trump is done.  and then next guy, oh boy Trump is finished.  "wait until Mueller gives his report"  the walls are closing in.  Then Mueller sez no collusion.  Oh wait Barr has the final word.  No collusion.  "Mueller is an idiot and Barr is protecting the prez."

You actually think that seeing the whole report would change the narrative?  Pay attention.  The Mueller investigation which was what every Dem pinned their hopes and fantasies on wasn't what they wanted.  It stated exactly the opposite of what they said for 2 years. 
Every legal interpretation I've seen was that Mueller concluded that there wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that the president committed a crime. He also went on to say that it doesn't exonerate him. Stop twisting his words.

So now, as predicted, TRUMP-APPOINTED William Barr, who 9 months ago basically promised the president he'd be safe, did his job just as King Baby had hoped. And now the Republicans will do everything they can that would look bad for him. 

Am I going to read it? No, of course not. Just like you didn't read the Ken Starr report. I'll let watchdog groups, who LOVE doing this and do it for a living, go through and pull the stuff that the American people should know. (Although it's probably already stuff most people know, but people like you should pay attention to.)

Which leads me to my last bolded point: says who?! You didn't read it either! You're going off what Trump says as he walks around yelling out, "See?! No collusion!" because he stacked the deck with henchmen Republican lawmakers. 

On a more personal note, I just did my taxes. Fuck Trump.
Yes, no collusion.  The president did not commit a crime or try to have the russians influence the election.  At least that is a higher bar than committed crimes but didn't "have intent" like Hillary.
I didn't vote for Trump either.  But at least I am honest enough to admit I was wrong in large part about what kind of president he would be.  He has far exceeded my expectations.
As to "stacking the deck" I suppose Mueller is a secret russian spy as well.  The excuses are nonstop.
Go back and read what I wrote.

There was collusion. It was in plain sight. And if he's exceeded your expectations... 

You're just simply not very smart. There's no other explanation I can come to. He's a shit president, and the people who support him are jackasses at this point. Time for rational people to tell it like it is.

Have a good weekend!
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