Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
It is just weed. Not like he was caught with meth. Stupid that this is even an issue.
It's not just about weed. It's about maturity, integrity and accountability. You agree to a certain job, that job comes with certain rules. You give your word to do that specific job and agree to follow the rules that are in place. Pretty simple to me.
Weed shouldn't even be in the rules. It is about to be legalized nationwide soon enough. The NBA doesn't even test for it anymore. I don't see the big issue with someone with a ton of money wanting to smoke some weed. Was it a lot? Sure... He also makes more than any one of us, or most likely, here. Maybe he got a hell of a deal to buy that much.
The difference between the NFL and the NBA in this case is how they perceive the fan bases would react. Plain and simple. The NFL has caved to certain less tolerant elements of their fan base. Everything they do is based on what causes the least waves. In short they don't have as big of balls as the NBA owners do.
As for it being alot. Hell yeah it was. Do we know it was all for him? He is able to afford alot more entertaining then the average person.
That is the questions we don't know. I know from my experiences that if I had that kind of money... I would probably buy that much at a time as you would save a lot of money. I would guess around a grand or 2 give or take with roughly around 9 ounces of weed.
Quote: @Canthony said:
@ suncoastvike said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
It is just weed. Not like he was caught with meth. Stupid that this is even an issue.
It's not just about weed. It's about maturity, integrity and accountability. You agree to a certain job, that job comes with certain rules. You give your word to do that specific job and agree to follow the rules that are in place. Pretty simple to me.
Weed shouldn't even be in the rules. It is about to be legalized nationwide soon enough. The NBA doesn't even test for it anymore. I don't see the big issue with someone with a ton of money wanting to smoke some weed. Was it a lot? Sure... He also makes more than any one of us, or most likely, here. Maybe he got a hell of a deal to buy that much.
The difference between the NFL and the NBA in this case is how they perceive the fan bases would react. Plain and simple. The NFL has caved to certain less tolerant elements of their fan base. Everything they do is based on what causes the least waves. In short they don't have as big of balls as the NBA owners do.
As for it being alot. Hell yeah it was. Do we know it was all for him? He is able to afford alot more entertaining then the average person.
That is the questions we don't know. I know from my experiences that if I had that kind of money... I would probably buy that much at a time as you would save a lot of money. I would guess around 3-4 grand give or take with roughly around 9 pounds of weed.
I guess. Somehow the warehouse packaging quantity doesn't fit every lifestyle. Your average family of 4 doesn't need that 1 gallon Costco mayonnaise jar. Saved money but threw it out before you finished. 9 lbs of weed is alot for one person.
Quote: @Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
It is just weed. Not like he was caught with meth. Stupid that this is even an issue.
It's not just about weed. It's about maturity, integrity and accountability. You agree to a certain job, that job comes with certain rules. You give your word to do that specific job and agree to follow the rules that are in place. Pretty simple to me.
Weed shouldn't even be in the rules. It is about to be legalized nationwide soon enough. The NBA doesn't even test for it anymore. I don't see the big issue with someone with a ton of money wanting to smoke some weed. Was it a lot? Sure... He also makes more than any one of us, or most likely, here. Maybe he got a hell of a deal to buy that much.
Well apparently that's not your decision regarding any company rules. Like I said it's not about weed, it's about these are the conditions of employment. Regardless of the type of employment. If you want the job, here's the guidelines you will be required to follow.
I get your thought process, I do. I understand and follow corporate regulations on a daily. I am just upset that this is still an issue and the kid will lose his employment over a rule that should be changed.
I agree with you. But with being an adult is about making choices. Sometimes to achieve a higher quality of life, you might have to surrender certain things. In Roc Thomas' case...smoking weed.
I haven't smoked weed in about 10 years, but I have no issues with people that want to do it. I chose a different road to better my life. I get it, but it sucks to see a promising player get reprimanded over it.
Have the Vikings cut him yet? I haven't paid that close attention to this story.
I with what both you and Arizona are saying. But the fact is he wasn't grown up enough to follow the rules. If making millions of dollars isn't enough of a deterrent to stay away from the hippie lettuce or at least keep it under wraps some what then this guy was doomed to fail. He either is a very arrogant guy or not very smart. You can't smoke 5 oz in an evening. Why not keep 4 1/2 oz in an air tight container hidden in the apartment and use the other half oz for personal use. Open a window, blow the smoke outside and use a $2 can of air freshener. If he would have just done that we wouldnt even be hearing this. I may be mistaken but even if weed were legal under the laws Colorado currently has in place Roc would still be in trouble for having 5 oz. That's where he is screwed here. The possession charge is a misdimeanor, but because of the amount he will be charged with intent to deliver which is a felony. Which goes back to him not being too smart. If he just had under an oz the worst he would be facing would be a 4 game suspension.
Quote: @holmanjp said:
@ pumpf said:
@ Purplewhizz said:
@ purplefaithful said:
What a dumb asz...
According to reports, law enforcement officers executed a search warrant at his apartment on Jan. 16 and found multiple glass jars containing marijuana and marijuana wax. The jars contained more than three times the amount of marijuana needed for a felony charge. The jars were found in the living room and bedroom of the apartment. Thomas could be facing up to five years in prison. Even if he is acquitted or pleads guilty to lesser charges, the NFL disciplinary rules regarding controlled substances could lead to a suspension for Thomas. That suspension would stay with Thomas if the Vikings released him and he joined another team.
Officers were led to search the apartment after the building’s manager reportedly received complaints about the smell of marijuana coming from his apartment. Thomas reportedly told officers that he knew of the complaints.
He doesn’t sound too bright, does he? If he knew about neighbors complaining, you’d think he’d have maybe cracked a window or something. Sounds like they were smoking tons of the stuff.
Your last comment is the answer to your initial question.
They found 5 ounces, $500 worth of weed.
Now MN tax payers can dish out how much for is room and board for 5 years in prison.
He would/could have earned 3-5 mill over next 5 years. How much is that, in lost State income taxes alone???
All over a plant that grows in the wild.
One less person that might bump into someone while walking to 7-11 for more Cheetos.
The side walks are now safe.
The Vikings are going to spend the same amount on players
regardless of who it is. Our taxable
income is set more by the value of the salary cap than anything else.
Quote: @Purple Haze said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
@ Canthony said:
It is just weed. Not like he was caught with meth. Stupid that this is even an issue.
It's not just about weed. It's about maturity, integrity and accountability. You agree to a certain job, that job comes with certain rules. You give your word to do that specific job and agree to follow the rules that are in place. Pretty simple to me.
Weed shouldn't even be in the rules. It is about to be legalized nationwide soon enough. The NBA doesn't even test for it anymore. I don't see the big issue with someone with a ton of money wanting to smoke some weed. Was it a lot? Sure... He also makes more than any one of us, or most likely, here. Maybe he got a hell of a deal to buy that much.
Well apparently that's not your decision regarding any company rules. Like I said it's not about weed, it's about these are the conditions of employment. Regardless of the type of employment. If you want the job, here's the guidelines you will be required to follow.
I get your thought process, I do. I understand and follow corporate regulations on a daily. I am just upset that this is still an issue and the kid will lose his employment over a rule that should be changed.
I agree with you. But with being an adult is about making choices. Sometimes to achieve a higher quality of life, you might have to surrender certain things. In Roc Thomas' case...smoking weed.
I haven't smoked weed in about 10 years, but I have no issues with people that want to do it. I chose a different road to better my life. I get it, but it sucks to see a promising player get reprimanded over it.
Have the Vikings cut him yet? I haven't paid that close attention to this story.
I with what both you and Arizona are saying. But the fact is he wasn't grown up enough to follow the rules. If making millions of dollars isn't enough of a deterrent to stay away from the hippie lettuce or at least keep it under wraps some what then this guy was doomed to fail. He either is a very arrogant guy or not very smart. You can't smoke 5 oz in an evening. Why not keep 4 1/2 oz in an air tight container hidden in the apartment and use the other half oz for personal use. Open a window, blow the smoke outside and use a $2 can of air freshener. If he would have just done that we wouldnt even be hearing this. I may be mistaken but even if weed were legal under the laws Colorado currently has in place Roc would still be in trouble for having 5 oz. That's where he is screwed here. The possession charge is a misdimeanor, but because of the amount he will be charged with intent to deliver which is a felony. Which goes back to him not being too smart. If he just had under an oz the worst he would be facing would be a 4 game suspension.
I agree with your post as well. I think we all agree with each other, but there were just factors that he could have avoided. I agree that 9 ounces is way too much, but we also didn't know what he was buying that quantity for. Maybe he got a great deal. If that was the case, maybe he thought it wasn't that big of a deal. This is where he needs to be smarter
I'm all for decriminalization - along with the other 60% of MN's who I have heard also support decriminalization.
All the dummy had to do was abstain for a couple of years and make some decent coin in the league. I completely agree with other posts here to nut-up and play by the rules of your employer.
Also could have just used vape - no muss, no fuss, no smell.
Dumbasz...
His Viking career, and maybe NFL career is up in smoke. Too bad for him, but I guess he had different priorities. He may have been a dealer too with that amount, or getting some for friends? That's quite a bit for a personal "stash". I suppose some folks have cases of whiskey, vodka, gin or wine, so maybe it was all his.
Too bad. Doubt he even gets to compete for a roster spot now.
Jerome Simpson II, Dumb ass. "I was gonna go to work but then I got high"....
I know it's not a popular take (like that matters), but I don't think we've fully realized the long-term impact that smoking weed has on people. That's why I favor keeping it illegal. We already know SOME of the negative side effects. And, thanks to all kinds of supporters, we also know the positive effects (as a pain killer, among other things). I guess- for me- one of the reasons for keeping it illegal is demonstrated in this episode: a guy was willing to put his lucrative career in jeopardy... over this? It makes me think that there must be some kind of addictive dynamic in place (whether it be chemical or mental), such that he would willingly risk losing his job over it. To me... that only makes sense when an addiction is involved.
Of course, people can become addicted to alot of things; that- in and of itself- is not a reason to make it illegal. But it should- at least- give us pause.
I think it's inevitable that it becomes decriminalized, like alcohol during prohibition..
And like Alcohol or pain-killers, weed can be a problem for some, not for others.
All that said, I hope there is a good, open discussion on whether to decriminalize or not and when all the plus/minus is accurately weighed, what's best for society as a whole?
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