OL And Other Prospects Watch

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I'd probably hemorrhage from my eyes if we passed on Edwards in the second and then on Powers in the third...then I'd sharpen a pitchfork...

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Good thread on Jonah Williams and why arm length matters for tackles. 

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/stat...3391305728

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@MaroonBells said:
Good thread on Jonah Williams and why arm length matters for tackles. 

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/stat...3391305728

Good thread. I've held for a while that I'd bump him inside to guard. OT's are more valuable but I think you'd be taking a player who'd be an average tackle and potentially allowing them to be an elite guard. I do think some of this can be corrected with good coaching. Jonah is one of the more polished O-lineman prospects technically but he needs to have more active hands to get D-lineman's hands off his breast plate. Easier said than done since the typical technique would to shoot back on the lineman's shoulder to give you back leverage but the lack of length prevents that. Instead you need to rip the arm off and use athleticism to reset and re-engage. 

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@"Geoff Nichols" said:

@MaroonBells said:
Good thread on Jonah Williams and why arm length matters for tackles. 

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/stat...3391305728

Good thread. I've held for a while that I'd bump him inside to guard. OT's are more valuable but I think you'd be taking a player who'd be an average tackle and potentially allowing them to be an elite guard. I do think some of this can be corrected with good coaching. Jonah is one of the more polished O-lineman prospects technically but he needs to have more active hands to get D-lineman's hands off his breast plate. Easier said than done since the typical technique would to shoot back on the lineman's shoulder to give you back leverage but the lack of length prevents that. Instead you need to rip the arm off and use athleticism to reset and re-engage. 

He sort of reminds me of Kalil. I called Kalil "LT101" because his sets and his feet were textbook. His problem was at the point of attack. That's basically what Ledyard is saying in this thread about Williams... but for a different reason: arm length. All those edge rushers had clearly read their scouting reports on Jonah. Give him the long arm and his little arms will flail about unable to make contact. I think a better name for it is the "big brother." :-)

Where I agree with you (and disagree with Ledyard) is that I think moving him inside should eliminate much of this problem. He's a really good player otherwise. So now I'm very curious to find out at the combine just how short his arms are. 

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4 of 9 experts agree that the 2019 draft will yield us Little. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/2019-nfl...und-2019-2

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CODY FORDT, OKLAHOMA SOONERS

ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. calls Oklahoma OL Cody Ford an offensive guard and believes he's in the top 25-40 range.Ford (6'4/338) is viewed as an offensive tackle by others and he's generated some minor top-10 buzz in the early goings of #DraftSZN, so this is a bold take by Kiper. The Athletic's Dane Brugler recently polled 12 NFL-types about the 2019 OT class and Ford received the most votes when asked who they believed would end up as the first tackle taken. Kiper's opinion is a reminder that NFL teams will be split on some of these offensive linemen, and it will take a team believing in Ford as an offensive tackle if he were to go inside the first 10 picks.
SOURCE: ESPN.com

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@MaroonBells said:
4 of 9 experts agree that the 2019 draft will yield us Little. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/2019-nfl...und-2019-2

How do you feel about this projection?

Personally, I'm ambivalent. Guy's a monster but very quick. Perfect LT for a ZBS as he's much more finesse than mauler despite his size.

Fix his leverage issues and his tendency to wait for the DE to engage him and you've got a Franchise LT.

But it's not just the technique, it's the inconsistent performance for a former 5 Star High School prospect.

He can get stronger, but can he get meaner? Is it a motor issue?

I'd be all over this selection but at 36, not 18. The ceiling is very high, but the floor is also lower than Williams or Risner or Taylor or Dillard or Ford.

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@FSUVike said:

@MaroonBells said:
4 of 9 experts agree that the 2019 draft will yield us Little. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/2019-nfl...und-2019-2

How do you feel about this projection?

Personally, I'm ambivalent. Guy's a monster but very quick. Perfect LT for a ZBS as he's much more finesse than mauler despite his size.

Fix his leverage issues and his tendency to wait for the DE to engage him and you've got a Franchise LT.

But it's not just the technique, it's the inconsistent performance for a former 5 Star High School prospect.

He can get stronger, but can he get meaner? Is it a motor issue?

I'd be all over this selection but at 36, not 18. The ceiling is very high, but the floor is also lower than Williams or Risner or Taylor or Dillard or Ford.

Agree with all that. I fully intended that "little" double entendre. Of all the guys I watched when I first put on some Youtube, he was the most disappointing. Sounds like he has all the tools, but he seemed really passive to me. Did a lot of standing around. Probably didn't help that I'd just watched a bunch of the OU line. And in comparison to those guys--maniacs all of 'em-he looked like he didn't care. 

There's probably a point at which you take a chance on a guy with his size and athleticism, but given his technique breakdowns, inconsistencies and effort issues, he might be a little bit of a head case. Guys like that scare me. 

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Back flips, touchdown receptions, edge rushing...all at 320 lbs. Is there anything Saunders can't do? 

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/statu...3514823683

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Is Hanks our new Barr? 

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/statu...4577768448