Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ ArizonaViking said:
I'll take the huge corn-fed Ford and slide him into the guard spot. Whether Zimmer admits it or not, he needs two road graders at both guard spots to enhance the running game with Cook.
I'm no expert, but what I've read is that Ford would be a waste at guard and that he'll make a tremendous OT in the NFL. That's his position.
Very possible he stays at tackle. But the way the guard position has become more and more important in NFL offenses, I wouldn't call him a waste there. His arm length will have a lot to say about that, because he's only 6-4, assuming his college measurements are accurate...which they almost never are. He could be one of those college tackles that many project inside but he never loses his grip on the tackle position. Cordy Glenn was like that.
Quote: @TBro said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'll take it, Greg Little it is. 6'6", 332 lbs. That's how a LT is built. Long with a little junk in the trunk.
I don't see him lasting to 18. All of the OT's that have the potential to slide inside and play guard are getting pushed up the board. The Athletic just put out a top 50 prospect list and this is where they have their top 3 OT prospects ranked.
7. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama (6-5, 303, 5.18)Although he lacks physically imposing features, Williams is a high IQ, technically sound blocker with flexible hips and a nasty mean streak. Talking to NFL scouts around the league, some teams consider him a tackle, while others are scouting him as a guard or center.
11. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma (6-4, 335, 5.36)If a grizzly bear wore pads and played football, it would look something like Ford’s tape. A wide-bodied blocker with a huge wingspan, he moves surprisingly well for his size to cut off edge speed and protect against inside moves. Ford offers immediate tackle-guard versatility.
12. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss (6-6, 328, 5.12)A prospect who reminds me of Ronnie Stanley when he came out of Notre Dame, Little is an athletic big man with the frame, length and body control to carve out a long NFL career at left tackle. He would be higher on this list if he had more of a killer instinct.
It doesn't mean the draft will fall this way, but I'm growing concerned that we won't have a shot at the top OLineman in the draft if we stay at 18. Interesting that Risner is not ranked in their top 50 as I've seen him in the top 15 in some mocks. They have Jawaan Taylor and Andre Dillard at 36 and 37. I think Taylor will go in the first and possibly before 18 as well. MB, I would be fine with drafting a DT since it seems we will have plenty of options vs. reaching for Olineman with a 2nd and 3rd round grade. The other option I would consider is this guy.
19. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa (6-4, 249, 4.72)The best all-around tight end prospect in this class, Hockenson has the athleticism to release, get proper depth in his routes and create after the catch. As a blocker, he latches, drives his feet and moves his target off the screen, finishing through the echo of the whistle.
You can line him up anywhere on the field and he is a great deep route runner that can stretch the defense. Rudy can't do that anymore and has lost what little run after the catch ability he had. We can dump is $7.6 Million in cap space with zero dead money this year.
It looks to be a strong TE class this year with prospects like TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant, Kaden Smith, and Irv Smith Jr.. We need to address the line, but bringing in a TE to pair with and eventually replace Rudolph would be a very good move this year. Rudolph is still productive, but he's not a threat after the catch and we need to find someone who can take advantage of teams doubling Thielen and Diggs. We might still be able to get a good TE in the 2nd, but with it being a down year for WRs, I could see a run on TEs happening.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ TBro said:
@ StickyBun said:
I'll take it, Greg Little it is. 6'6", 332 lbs. That's how a LT is built. Long with a little junk in the trunk.
I don't see him lasting to 18. All of the OT's that have the potential to slide inside and play guard are getting pushed up the board. The Athletic just put out a top 50 prospect list and this is where they have their top 3 OT prospects ranked.
7. Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama (6-5, 303, 5.18)Although he lacks physically imposing features, Williams is a high IQ, technically sound blocker with flexible hips and a nasty mean streak. Talking to NFL scouts around the league, some teams consider him a tackle, while others are scouting him as a guard or center.
11. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma (6-4, 335, 5.36)If a grizzly bear wore pads and played football, it would look something like Ford’s tape. A wide-bodied blocker with a huge wingspan, he moves surprisingly well for his size to cut off edge speed and protect against inside moves. Ford offers immediate tackle-guard versatility.
12. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss (6-6, 328, 5.12)A prospect who reminds me of Ronnie Stanley when he came out of Notre Dame, Little is an athletic big man with the frame, length and body control to carve out a long NFL career at left tackle. He would be higher on this list if he had more of a killer instinct.
It doesn't mean the draft will fall this way, but I'm growing concerned that we won't have a shot at the top OLineman in the draft if we stay at 18. Interesting that Risner is not ranked in their top 50 as I've seen him in the top 15 in some mocks. They have Jawaan Taylor and Andre Dillard at 36 and 37. I think Taylor will go in the first and possibly before 18 as well. MB, I would be fine with drafting a DT since it seems we will have plenty of options vs. reaching for Olineman with a 2nd and 3rd round grade. The other option I would consider is this guy.
19. T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa (6-4, 249, 4.72)The best all-around tight end prospect in this class, Hockenson has the athleticism to release, get proper depth in his routes and create after the catch. As a blocker, he latches, drives his feet and moves his target off the screen, finishing through the echo of the whistle.
You can line him up anywhere on the field and he is a great deep route runner that can stretch the defense. Rudy can't do that anymore and has lost what little run after the catch ability he had. We can dump is $7.6 Million in cap space with zero dead money this year.
Of the above linemen, I think Cody Ford is the least likely to drop. He has some lust-worthy qualities. Greg Little, on the other hand, has some slider characteristics. Good size, decent athlete and just the fact that he plays left tackle will keep him high, but when I watched him I was a little surprised at how stiff and passive he was. I don't think I'm alone in that assessment either.
You're not alone. I would be a little leery taking Little at #18 for the sole reason that I'm not convinced you're going to start him at LT day one. He's inconsistent with his technique which sometimes gets him in some trouble. With his length you would expect him to keep hands off his chest plate, but that isn't the case all the time. If you can make him more consistent he has the potential to be a stud LT. But it will take time.
As for the athleticism he looks more athletic than he is. In his pass sets he does a nice job getting depth and moving his feet. In space its a whole different story. He almost seems like he never learned how to handle his size.
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