Quote: @Skodin said:
@ njvike said:
For his family's sake, I hope things are OK.
For the weenies that gave me a "wtf" for ACCURATELY pointing out that this dude was arrested TWO times in ONE WEEKEND...suck it.
As the Bard of our time, Emmitt Smith, once so eloquently stated : "A leopard can't change its stripes".
This team just NEVER ceases to amaze me with their BS.
Classic NJ. Exactly what you would expect from a trash bag of a state, trash opinions
It's the proximity to Philly.
Quote: @96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Fair enough. But the obvious conclusion would be that Griffen is still on the 53 man roster and the amount of time he will be away is uncertain until they get some sort of professional evaluation. The good news for Brian is that the other player the Vikings might consider, Odenigbo, was just claimed by the Cards yesterday. If Griffen is out for any length of time, Brian would seem to be the obvious choice assuming he's still in shape...certainly over some down-roster DE who's never played in a Zim defense.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ 96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Fair enough. But the obvious conclusion would be that Griffen is still on the 53 man roster and the amount of time he will be away is uncertain until they get some sort of professional evaluation. The good news for Brian is that the other player the Vikings might consider, Odenigbo, was just claimed by the Cards yesterday. If Griffen is out for any length of time, Brian would seem to be the obvious choice assuming he's still in shape...certainly over some down-roster DE who's never played in a Zim defense.
I liked Odenigbo, but at this point he wouldnt have been a replacement for Griff, they need on field leadership and a rookie wont replace that. Brian would be an immediate field general in his situational role. I think they need to be ready to make a move immediately as Griffs deal doesnt sound like a quick fix.... but knowing rick he will fuck around and use Griffs roster spot to bring Brothers back into the fold.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Fair enough. But the obvious conclusion would be that Griffen is still on the 53 man roster and the amount of time he will be away is uncertain until they get some sort of professional evaluation. The good news for Brian is that the other player the Vikings might consider, Odenigbo, was just claimed by the Cards yesterday. If Griffen is out for any length of time, Brian would seem to be the obvious choice assuming he's still in shape...certainly over some down-roster DE who's never played in a Zim defense.
I liked Odenigbo, but at this point he wouldnt have been a replacement for Griff, they need on field leadership and a rookie wont replace that. Brian would be an immediate field general in his situational role. I think they need to be ready to make a move immediately as Griffs deal doesnt sound like a quick fix.... but knowing rick he will fuck around and use Griffs roster spot to bring Brothers back into the fold.
Yeah, doubt Griff will be back this year. Just my take on it. And yes, a veteran presence that understand the defense and can provide a pass rush. That sounds like BRob.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ 96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Fair enough. But the obvious conclusion would be that Griffen is still on the 53 man roster and the amount of time he will be away is uncertain until they get some sort of professional evaluation. The good news for Brian is that the other player the Vikings might consider, Odenigbo, was just claimed by the Cards yesterday. If Griffen is out for any length of time, Brian would seem to be the obvious choice assuming he's still in shape...certainly over some down-roster DE who's never played in a Zim defense.
I liked Odenigbo, but at this point he wouldnt have been a replacement for Griff, they need on field leadership and a rookie wont replace that. Brian would be an immediate field general in his situational role. I think they need to be ready to make a move immediately as Griffs deal doesnt sound like a quick fix.... but knowing rick he will fuck around and use Griffs roster spot to bring Brothers back into the fold.
Yeah, doubt Griff will be back this year. Just my take on it. And yes, a veteran presence that understand the defense and can provide a pass rush. That sounds like BRob.
It's possible. We just don't have enough information. And likely neither do the Vikings yet. Once they get a thorough evaluation and, presumably, he's placed on some sort of drug program that, granted, might take some time to dial in, what do you do? You do what's best for Everson. But that could be any number of things. Commit him? Doubtful. Put him on IR and have him twiddle his thumbs at home, dreaming of what might have been? That sounds scary to me. I have no idea, but it's very possible that the best thing for him is to return some sort of normalcy to his life.
Quote: @96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Personal? You are saying the G.M. of an NFL team makes decisions not based on money or talent or quality of play, but because he has some personal grudge against your son? Seriously, why should anyone believe that? It's ridiculous on it's face.
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ 96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Personal? You are saying the G.M. of an NFL team makes decisions not based on money or talent or quality of play, but because he has some personal grudge against your son? Seriously, why should anyone believe that? It's ridiculous on it's face.
you think nothing is personal in business... now who is being rediculous?
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ comet52 said:
@ 96POPS said:
@"MaroonBellbuds" said:
@ suncoastvike said:
I have no doubt in my mind if the team or a teammate asked him Brian would be in uniform that day.
Of course he would. It's ridiculous to think otherwise. For the life of me, I don't understand those who think this was some sort of personal thing.
Maybe because they got it from me. Some of the things that have gone on between Brian and his agent with RS. Also the way everything was done last year during the eventual pay cut and knowing Brian wanted to retire a Viking at the end of this year.
Asking him this year to take a huge pay cut, which he agreed to and then releasing him.
There is a lot of things, but here's a good question to ponder.
If it's not personal and your team is in a bit of a turmoil (like now) why haven't you already made a call to a player who kept your defense running smoothly for the past couple of years? And the same player was described by Zimmer as being one of the best leaders be has come across during his career.
If you answer those questions then tell me what conclusion you come too.
Personal? You are saying the G.M. of an NFL team makes decisions not based on money or talent or quality of play, but because he has some personal grudge against your son? Seriously, why should anyone believe that? It's ridiculous on it's face.
you think nothing is personal in business... now who is being rediculous?
Give us a reason why Spielman has a grudge against Robison. Back it up with legit source/facts. Otherwise this is just horsepoop masquerading as information.
Quote: @comet52 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ comet52 said:
Personal? You are saying the G.M. of an NFL team makes decisions not based on money or talent or quality of play, but because he has some personal grudge against your son? Seriously, why should anyone believe that? It's ridiculous on it's face.
you think nothing is personal in business... now who is being rediculous?
Give us a reason why Spielman has a grudge against Robison. Back it up with legit source/facts. Otherwise this is just horsepoop masquerading as information.
Give us a reason why it is impossible. Back it up. Otherwise it is just speculation and opinion masqueraded as fact.
Removing Brian out of that locker room was a mistake. Many said his leadership would be missed even more than his play. IMO... they are right, BRob was a second coach and an extremely focused man. He was still producing too, the team went young and it's biting them in the ass as the D is not in the top 10 and can be scored on with ease for the most part.
If it came down to roster spots... did we really need 5 RBs? Rick screwed the pooch on this and by treating a vet like he treated Brian... pay cut, and another pay cut to retire a Viking... then fired... what kind of message does that send to the players on the roster. For me it says "hey, we call you family, but really... you're just pieces of meat that we will screw over if we think it will work for us. We will say one thing and do something else, but trust us.... we've got your back.... until we don't."
But then again I've never like "smiley glad hands with hidden agendas".... and Rick is one of the smiliest glad hands I've seen.
Get Well Griff.
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