It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
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NFL needs to come up with a new rule to protect kickers...egos.
Put kickers on weekly contracts. Miss either two FG's or XP's...gone! That should help them stay focused.
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It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
Agreed. This is the type of mental breakdown in his game that WILL show up again. You need a kicker that isn't afraid to miss in the crucial moments. that might sound odd, but if he goes out there scared that he will miss.... It is more likely that he will miss.
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@ suncoastvike said:
It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
Agreed. This is the type of mental breakdown in his game that WILL show up again. You need a kicker that isn't afraid to miss in the crucial moments. that might sound odd, but if he goes out there scared that he will miss.... It is more likely that he will miss.
yup. I have always said kicking is more like golf than football. when you are relaxed and just playing loose and good, its easy to play good golf, but then all of of a sudden one goes off the toe of the club or you hit one fat or what ever and you can be like "it happens" and move on from there, however if you are playing for money and your competition is right in your face about it... its hard to put that one shot behind you at times. now unfortunatley for us we dont know if he can or not and we might not be able to afford a better guy. our punter has kicking experience, but he was worse than Carlson IIRC.
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@ Mike Olson said:
@ suncoastvike said:
It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
Agreed. This is the type of mental breakdown in his game that WILL show up again. You need a kicker that isn't afraid to miss in the crucial moments. that might sound odd, but if he goes out there scared that he will miss.... It is more likely that he will miss.
yup. I have always said kicking is more like golf than football. when you are relaxed and just playing loose and good, its easy to play good golf, but then all of of a sudden one goes off the toe of the club or you hit one fat or what ever and you can be like "it happens" and move on from there, however if you are playing for money and your competition is right in your face about it... its hard to put that one shot behind you at times. now unfortunatley for us we dont know if he can or not and we might not be able to afford a better guy. our punter has kicking experience, but he was worse than Carlson IIRC.
I don't know about golf. I might be the only Floridian who doesn't golf. It's like bowling, pool or darts. Three games I do enjoy. When your in the zone everything goes just like you see it in your mind. As soon as it leaves your hand, stick or in his case foot , you know it's good. When it's not working you over think it. You grip too tight. You just plain choke. We can't efford to have him choking in big games.
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@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ suncoastvike said:
It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
Agreed. This is the type of mental breakdown in his game that WILL show up again. You need a kicker that isn't afraid to miss in the crucial moments. that might sound odd, but if he goes out there scared that he will miss.... It is more likely that he will miss.
yup. I have always said kicking is more like golf than football. when you are relaxed and just playing loose and good, its easy to play good golf, but then all of of a sudden one goes off the toe of the club or you hit one fat or what ever and you can be like "it happens" and move on from there, however if you are playing for money and your competition is right in your face about it... its hard to put that one shot behind you at times. now unfortunatley for us we dont know if he can or not and we might not be able to afford a better guy. our punter has kicking experience, but he was worse than Carlson IIRC.
I don't know about golf. I might be the only Floridian who doesn't golf. It's like bowling, pool or darts. Three games I do enjoy. When your in the zone everything goes just like you see it in your mind. As soon as it leaves your hand, stick or in his case foot , you know it's good. When it's not working you over think it. You grip too tight. You just plain choke. We can't efford to have him choking in big games.
funny thing is no matter who you bring in... they all seem to go through the issue. I am not saying Carlson will ever get it right, but the next guy in the same environement may develop the same issue. I am not sure that there isnt more to this story, to have 3 straight kickers go to shit is just nuts. I just wonder how our ST specialists are treated by the coaches and teammates, especially when they fuck up. I know they got to be mentally tough and soldiers have more pressure and all the other tough talk being thrown out there today, but I am trying to look at this in a big picture way and figure out why no kicker has found any comfort with this team in 4 years.
Tom brought up a good point yesterday and one that we had talked about with a few packer fans in the parking lot. Mason Crosby, the longtime Packer kicker had gone through an absolutely dreadful season as well. The question is do we have patience to work through that with this kid THIS year?
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@ suncoastvike said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Mike Olson said:
@ suncoastvike said:
It's not just how many alone that is disturbing. It's how wide as well. Jeez one of them didn't even hit the netting I think. The equivalent of sticking your dart in the wall. Could even hit the freaking board let alone the bullseye.
That's a serious mental block there. We need to cut him early this week and find someone new. He's going to freeze up again.
Agreed. This is the type of mental breakdown in his game that WILL show up again. You need a kicker that isn't afraid to miss in the crucial moments. that might sound odd, but if he goes out there scared that he will miss.... It is more likely that he will miss.
yup. I have always said kicking is more like golf than football. when you are relaxed and just playing loose and good, its easy to play good golf, but then all of of a sudden one goes off the toe of the club or you hit one fat or what ever and you can be like "it happens" and move on from there, however if you are playing for money and your competition is right in your face about it... its hard to put that one shot behind you at times. now unfortunatley for us we dont know if he can or not and we might not be able to afford a better guy. our punter has kicking experience, but he was worse than Carlson IIRC.
I don't know about golf. I might be the only Floridian who doesn't golf. It's like bowling, pool or darts. Three games I do enjoy. When your in the zone everything goes just like you see it in your mind. As soon as it leaves your hand, stick or in his case foot , you know it's good. When it's not working you over think it. You grip too tight. You just plain choke. We can't efford to have him choking in big games.
funny thing is no matter who you bring in... they all seem to go through the issue. I am not saying Carlson will ever get it right, but the next guy in the same environement may develop the same issue. I am not sure that there isnt more to this story, to have 3 straight kickers go to shit is just nuts. I just wonder how our ST specialists are treated by the coaches and teammates, especially when they fuck up. I know they got to be mentally tough and soldiers have more pressure and all the other tough talk being thrown out there today, but I am trying to look at this in a big picture way and figure out why no kicker has found any comfort with this team in 4 years.
Like you say. I'm beginning to wonder why we seem to destroy promising kickers. Walsh never got it back after he left here. It might not be on the coaches or their approach otherwise wouldn't he have come back around. At least Walsh won some games for us before he caved in mentally. Maybe they just need a better psych eval test.
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