Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Quote: @IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Time heals all ills. I've never completely understood why people turned on him in the first place, so I don't need the time. I'll remember him as the best running back we've ever had. The best combination of speed and power the NFL has ever seen. I'll tell my grandchildren that I watched his every carry in purple. I'll tell them about 296. I'll ask them if they want to see a BAD, BAD man and show them the one clip William Gay doesn't allow in his house.
Amen to that. He wasn't the sharpest tool, nor the most gracious teammate. But he was the ultimate stud in the backfield. The bitter taste left by his last couple of years will fade and I will still be in awe when I look back at his highlight runs.
The "playoff" performance isn't his issue as much the fact that the team rarely made the playoffs in his prime and when they did, Joe Webb was the QB.
Speed, power, balance, violence and drive. He had it all. Defenses first tried to change completely to stop him. Then when that failed, the backed off and conceded 4-5 yards in hope of limiting the huge gains. Washington ran a 4-4 defense to stop him because we had TJ and Twill as our other weapons. Last time these guys likely faced a 4-4 was probably 5th grade.
Moss and Peterson are 2 sides to the same coin. All world talent that came with some baggage. Both made it to the NFCCG but came up short. But they changed the game, defenses had to change and ultimately conceded that they would get large chunks but hoped to stop the backbreaking plays. Moss had more talent around him, but although neither won the super bowl, they should be remembered as top 2-3 at their position.
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
One thing that sticks out in my mind regarding that. The kid was there because Peterson was trying to change and be more involved. That year he had married his girlfriend and reached out to his kids from other women. He had serious moral issues, but it appeared that he also recognized that and was trying to change.
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
Yeah, turns out there are a hundred different viewpoints on that. I sorta come from the starting point of trying to respect other cultures, religions, belief systems even if I don't share them. I suspect a lot of folks put malice into Peterson's actions, and I doubt that's the case. He was likely just parenting the way he was parented. Doesn't really excuse what he did, but if you want to know why it doesn't make me crazy like it does some, well there ya go. And I couldn't give a damn how many kids or wives he had.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
One thing that sticks out in my mind regarding that. The kid was there because Peterson was trying to change and be more involved. That year he had married his girlfriend and reached out to his kids from other women. He had serious moral issues, but it appeared that he also recognized that and was trying to change.
Fair enough. Anyone can change. I haven't heard of anymore acts of violence against family members or anyone, before or since. I don't think he's an abusive person. Just didn't know how to be a father. So he looked to his childhood. His father shouldn't have been his model...imo. My veiw is any adult doesn't need more then an open hand on the backside of a 4 year old to make your point. Times being how they are they even frown on that now. He got alot of women pregnant. Didn't spend enough time being a dad. I ignored that fact before the arrest.
Quote: @suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
Yeah, it's hard to be a good father when you are basically out of your childrens' lives. As a father of two young children, I look pretty harshly at men who go around getting multiple women pregnant and being mostly or completely absent from those kids' lives. Plus then his children wouldn't be living with their moms' boyfriends who a lot of the times don't have the child's best interests at heart. That exact situation definitely turned out horrifically for one of his children. What he did on the football field is of far less significance in the big picture of things.
And that's not even mentioning his severe limitations on the field, or whipping his boy, or holding out for a pay raise after being suspended for a year, or the slavery comment, or........
2013 was really the last year that I was a fan of Adrian Peterson.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
Yeah, turns out there are a hundred different viewpoints on that. I sorta come from the starting point of trying to respect other cultures, religions, belief systems even if I don't share them. I suspect a lot of folks put malice into Peterson's actions, and I doubt that's the case. He was likely just parenting the way he was parented. Doesn't really excuse what he did, but if you want to know why it doesn't make me crazy like it does some, well there ya go. And I couldn't give a damn how many kids or wives he had.
Yeah I agree it got turned into a nation debate. You don't go tell'en us how to raise our kids. Old culture vs new. South vs north...ect. It was an embarrassment I hated hearing in the end. This was the face of our franchise. Lots of people were rubbing egg in our face.
Quote: @SFVikingFan said:
@ suncoastvike said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ IDVikingfan said:
Maroon, for fairness and balance, make sure you tell your grandchildren about Peterson whipping his son with a switch. Just cultural differences doncha know... What happens on the field is all that matters... He was a great football player but a terrible Dad.
Yeah, not to restart a topic this board has, well, beaten to death...that didn't enrage me the way it did others. Peterson went too far and I think he probably realized that the minute he stopped. But I came from a family of Kansas farmers. It's how I was brought up. I got the switch many times. So did my father before me. And his father before him. Of course there were no photos to show the cuts and bruises. But time and culture changes. I wouldn't dream of hitting my kids.
The bigger difference is it sounds like your father was your father year round. Married to your mother and a presence in the home. This kid was a 4 year old sent off to bond with his father a couple times a year. Harsh discipline is easier to except and learn from when dished out from someone who's a big part of your life. What could this 4 year old have learned from this visit? I don't want to reopen any old wounds rehashed here. I wasn't here hashing then. I just couldn't look at him the same after that. That my take on him. He is the greatest RB we ever had. He was also seriously flawed morally in my eyes. More then how and when he decided to be a father.
Yeah, it's hard to be a good father when you are basically out of your childrens' lives. As a father of two young children, I look pretty harshly at men who go around getting multiple women pregnant and being mostly or completely absent from those kids' lives. Plus then his children wouldn't be living with their moms' boyfriends who a lot of the times don't have the child's best interests at heart. That exact situation definitely turned out horrifically for one of his children. What he did on the football field is of far less significance in the big picture of things.
And that's not even mentioning his severe limitations on the field, or whipping his boy, or holding out for a pay raise after being suspended for a year, or the slavery comment, or........
2013 was really the last year that I was a fan of Adrian Peterson.
Yep he made himself hard to love. I separate the on field from the off. He gave me many great memories on the field. Some not so great off.
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