Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ silverjoel said:
@ TBro said:
I would much rather sign Keenum than trade for Foles who was on the verge of retirement. After winning the Super Bowl at 35, how much drive does he really have left to do that all over with a new team? He put together back to back career games that the Vikings and Patriots did not seem prepared for with the RPO that Pederson masterminded. The stars were aligned for him, but I don't think it's repeatable and the Eagles need to make sure Wentz is 100% to start the season.
Foles turned 29 yo about a month ago. Where is 35 coming from? He was drafted in 2012, same year as Cousins and Keenum (undrafted).
honestly i didnt look, i was just going off what TBro mentioned.
either way I would not be trading for him. he is a great back up option, and even a low level starter IMO, but i wouldnt give up a 2nd round pick for him at this point.
Yeah it isn't his age, and I think "considered retirement" is just code for "wasn't getting offers and wanted to pretend it was his own choice"...but I totally agree that a 2nd would be too much. MAYBE our 3rd, since it is pretty late. But I really don't see Spielman going this route. For one thing, there would be a little shame in buying another "spare" QB from the same team again within less than 3 years...
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
uhm no..... check that... fuck no. while yes foles is marginally better than Case talent wise, IMO you dont spend a 2nd round draft pick on a guy that is only under contract for 1 year and then put you right back in the same situation you are currently in.
There is probably a less than zero percent chance Rick would send even more picks to the Eagles.
Quote: @silverjoel said:
@ TBro said:
I would much rather sign Keenum than trade for Foles who was on the verge of retirement. After winning the Super Bowl at 35, how much drive does he really have left to do that all over with a new team? He put together back to back career games that the Vikings and Patriots did not seem prepared for with the RPO that Pederson masterminded. The stars were aligned for him, but I don't think it's repeatable and the Eagles need to make sure Wentz is 100% to start the season.
Foles turned 29 yo about a month ago. Where is 35 coming from? He was drafted in 2012, same year as Cousins and Keenum (undrafted).
You're right, I should have fact checked my info more closely. That does change the perspective on him as a long term option vs. a QB at the end of their career. I still wouldn't give up a 2nd rounder for him when you could sign one of our 3 Free Agents and keep your pick or picks that Philly would demand. No reason for them to sell low, and no reason to believe that he will continue the level of performance we witnessed.
Foles had great protection. A lot of QB's can play well with a very good O-line; including those already on the roster. I think they will sign one of the three they already have, unless Cousins gives them a reasonable discount. But I don't see that happening.
Quote: @TBro said:
I would much rather sign Keenum than trade for Foles who was on the verge of retirement. After winning the Super Bowl at 35, how much drive does he really have left to do that all over with a new team? He put together back to back career games that the Vikings and Patriots did not seem prepared for with the RPO that Pederson masterminded. The stars were aligned for him, but I don't think it's repeatable and the Eagles need to make sure Wentz is 100% to start the season.
Exactly. If we wonder about Case being a 1 year wonder, what about Foles and the 6 week wonder?
Eagles changed their offense to fit him, teams had no film on that. Barely beat the Falcons at home, then started surging against us and the Pats.
He is talented enough to start, but as Jimmy said NFW we waste a 2nd round pick on a 1 year starter with little upside.
Quote: @greediron said:
@ TBro said:
I would much rather sign Keenum than trade for Foles who was on the verge of retirement. After winning the Super Bowl at 35, how much drive does he really have left to do that all over with a new team? He put together back to back career games that the Vikings and Patriots did not seem prepared for with the RPO that Pederson masterminded. The stars were aligned for him, but I don't think it's repeatable and the Eagles need to make sure Wentz is 100% to start the season.
Exactly. If we wonder about Case being a 1 year wonder, what about Foles and the 6 week wonder?
Eagles changed their offense to fit him, teams had no film on that. Barely beat the Falcons at home, then started surging against us and the Pats.
He is talented enough to start, but as Jimmy said NFW we waste a 2nd round pick on a 1 year starter with little upside.
Foles has one of the best seasons at QB ever in 2013 (3rd best passer rating in a season ever). The best TD to INT ratio in a season in the history of the NFL that year (27-2). It's not like last year was completely out of nowhere. I am by no means advocating for him, but he could still be a viable starter for a team. He took being traded to the Rams pretty hard.
I don't think the Eagles are going to trade him as Wentz is probably going to miss some time at the start of the season.
We're not trading for Nick Foles, good grief.
Quote: @silverjoel said:
@ greediron said:
@ TBro said:
I would much rather sign Keenum than trade for Foles who was on the verge of retirement. After winning the Super Bowl at 35, how much drive does he really have left to do that all over with a new team? He put together back to back career games that the Vikings and Patriots did not seem prepared for with the RPO that Pederson masterminded. The stars were aligned for him, but I don't think it's repeatable and the Eagles need to make sure Wentz is 100% to start the season.
Exactly. If we wonder about Case being a 1 year wonder, what about Foles and the 6 week wonder?
Eagles changed their offense to fit him, teams had no film on that. Barely beat the Falcons at home, then started surging against us and the Pats.
He is talented enough to start, but as Jimmy said NFW we waste a 2nd round pick on a 1 year starter with little upside.
Foles has one of the best seasons at QB ever in 2013 (3rd best passer rating in a season ever). The best TD to INT ratio in a season in the history of the NFL that year (27-2). It's not like last year was completely out of nowhere. I am by no means advocating for him, but he could still be a viable starter for a team. He took being traded to the Rams pretty hard.
I don't think the Eagles are going to trade him as Wentz is probably going to miss some time at the start of the season.
Who wouldn't?
Yes, Foles did well with the Eagles before, but that was in Chip's run n gun offense, wasn't it. They put up points, but I don't remember them making much noise in the playoffs. He makes a decent starter, but I will go back to sending another pick for a short term option. And one that might not be that great.
I do agree that Foles probably sticks in Philly as Wentz make start the year on PUP.
I read that Wentz’s injury was pretty severe, ACL+2, meaning he tore 3 ligaments, the article said he will probably have to wear a knee brace for the duration of his career. His return date for the start of next season is in question. The Eagles would be foolish to trade him under these circumstances.
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