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(02-02-2026, 03:42 PM)Waterboy Wrote: Purple Daily speculated that a big part of the problem is that the Wilf's still are absentee residing in New Jersey primarily and running their other businesses. I think there is some validity to them being a little clueless about the culture seeing as they're largely not there. I think they're great owners in some way, but I think they need more presence on site. At this point, you lean on your long tenured scouts and coaches and see what you can piece together this next draft. I gotta believe they have Paton in their plans moving forward after next year.
No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
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(02-02-2026, 06:33 PM)Ikmillard Wrote: No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
Not necessarily disagreeing but I’m not following either. I consider Kwesi taking maternity leave as outright bs, but am not aware how Paton plays into that or that the Vikes have a country club atmosphere. I know they are rated very highly by the players? That could be a good thing but I can also understand how that could be bad. Just interested in your thoughts, not questioning their validity.
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(02-02-2026, 06:33 PM)kmillard Wrote: No to Paton. That would just promote the current country club front office that is there now as he is still close to a majority of them.
It needs to be someone from outside the org from a successful franchise that is not afraid of a front office purging.
Let me see if I am following. You think the Vikings have some Country Club atmosphere. That would have made Kwesi the odd man out? Because hes?.... Not seeing where you are going with this. Instead of seeing his MANY downfalls throughout his time here, his lack of understanding or listening for that matter, not taking advice from the personnel department, just to name a few things. Kwesi wasn't well liked behind the scenes, because of his actions and how he handled things, or lack thereof in this situation. You realize the Wilfs aren't... Never mind. Carry on
Country Club lol. Just say what you really want to say. It's absolutely completely wrong, but hey, do your thing, boo boo.
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(Yesterday, 07:23 AM)Canthony Wrote: Let me see if I am following. You think the Vikings have some Country Club atmosphere. That would have made Kwesi the odd man out? Because hes?.... Not seeing where you are going with this. Instead of seeing his MANY downfalls throughout his time here, his lack of understanding or listening for that matter, not taking advice from the personnel department, just to name a few things. Kwesi wasn't well liked behind the scenes, because of his actions and how he handled things, or lack thereof in this situation. You realize the Wilfs aren't... Never mind. Carry on
Country Club lol. Just say what you really want to say. It's absolutely completely wrong, but hey, do your thing, boo boo. CA, I think you are reading meaning in to words that weren't intended by the poster. I think he meant a closed network of like minded individuals, in this case football people not embracing the non football people, or something to similar. I didnt read anything more into those comments than simply that.
Why isn't Chuck Foreman in the Hall of Fame?
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(Yesterday, 08:23 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: CA, I think you are reading meaning in to words that weren't intended by the poster. I think he meant a closed network of like minded individuals, in this case football people not embracing the non football people, or something to similar. I didnt read anything more into those comments than simply that.
Yeah that is really looking for something that wasn't there. By atmosphere, it is more a carry over of those who have been there since Speilman which is odd as when Kwesi was hired, most NEW Gm's bring in their own staff and scouts. Kwesi never did or was allowed to do that. I want someone who gets hired and brings his own group in. I doubt Grigson hangs around much longer as he has already been passed over for Brez.
Andrew Miller pushed the hardest for Kwesi to be hired and I can imagine that his seat is feeling a little warm.
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Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
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(Yesterday, 07:57 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
Great post https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7MHv1aLG2...ture=share
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(Yesterday, 07:57 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Do you all remember when Kwesi moved up in the draft to trade a bunch of capital and pick up Dallas Turner?
I'm not saying that was a bad move...but do you recall the video from the draft room and the look on KOC's face when he found out from Kwesi what he had just done to get Turner?
I'll never forget that look on KOCs face...he had no idea.
My point is that Kwesi was making all the draft trades, all the personnel decisions.
For a statistician who had never played football...yeah, this was gonna happen.
Yes, Kwesi made the move up to take Dallas Turner. There was never any question about that. His philosophy at the time—a clear shift from 2022—was that elite players drive success. In other words, you’re better off with one Dallas Turner than three Chris Braswells. I don't disagree with that. But I think it depends on what your roster looks like and where you're at in your window.
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