We're going to find out now.....

[supafreak84]

Supa you can keep on with this I suppose, but sidenote-- After recent events are you at least ready to stop banging drum that the Wilfs don't really want to win? They kept the team in Minny, spend big on the roster, got a new stadium pushed through, and don't embarrass us in the media like some owners do. Plus they've fired quite a few front office people with lots of money left on their deals. The results haven't been there in the playoffs and I'm not saying they belong in the NFL HOF, but they're def trying to win. They just haven't figured out how.

Sure they want to win, the problem is they have no concept of how to do that as evidenced by their 21 years of futility and the recent (once again) shit show that they created. I give them zero credit for firing Kwesi when they hired his unqualified ass in the first place. They make terrible football related decisions. I have no issue with their willingness to spend money on talent, facilities, keeping the team in Minnesota, and all that. But when it comes to making actual football decisions, they have no idea what they are doing.

[supafreak84]

Everybody "wants" to win.  Why do fans sell that like it's an accomplishment? The worst owner in the NFL wants to win, even if he/she has no clue how to do so.

Here's a newsflash: the team was never leaving.  The NFL covets the Twin Cities market.  And every team builds a stadium, a bunch are being built right now.  Again, these are nice things but they aren't indicative of any sort of football success.  Hell the New York Jets, one of the worst ownerships in the league, have more playoff wins in the 21 years since Wilf bought the Vikings than we do and they haven't even been to the playoffs since 2009!  

Well it's been 21 years, I'm don't know about you but I am not going to live forever.  Neither is Zygmunt Wilf for that matter.  Yet here we are looking at this rinse-repeat mess:

2022: Wilfs wake up from slumber to discover GM and HC resent each other, org is totally dysfunctional. Install new regime, promise collaboration, kumbaya. Go back to sleep.
2026: Wilfs wake up from slumber to discover GM and HC resent each other, org is totally dysfunctional. Fire GM, give HC all the power. Go back to sleep.

Sorry but I am not impressed with the Wilfs.

100% correct. The best way to describe the Wilfs is they are like two exuberant teenage boys who want to build a rocket ship. They spend all their allowance money trying to make it happen, but they keep hiring the night manager at Ace Hardware to build it for them and then they are shocked when things don't work out. Rinse and repeat. It's the same cycle we are stuck in as Viking fans.

[purplefaithful]

Any sober reading of the Vikings’ four-year draft history under Kwesi Adofo-Mensah, their former general manager, leaves little surprise that he was fired Friday, Jan. 30.

There were simply too many misses relative to the rest of the NFL (and particularly the NFC North), which meant the Vikings needed to spend in free agency to cover for those mistakes.

The result is an aging roster with too many holes and questions. Trusting Adofo-Mensah to oversee another draft, one in which the Vikings hold several premium picks, might set the franchise back even further.

The most notable pick that came on Adofo-Mensah’s watch, of course, was the selection of QB J.J. McCarthy at No. 10 overall in 2024.

We might never know the full extent of the Vikings’ internal QB debates in the last two years, but we do know their decisions led to disaster in 2025.

And this much seems clear now that Adofo-Mensah is gone and head coach Kevin O’Connell is still here: We’re about to find out what KOC really thinks of McCarthy.

There was certainly some level of consensus that led to the Vikings selecting McCarthy in 2024. You don’t give an offensive-minded head coach called the “quarterback whisperer” a QB with whom he doesn’t believe he can win.

The Vikings were inadequately prepared for what proved to be McCarthy’s major struggles (both playing-wise and staying healthy) in 2025. If that was motivated by finances and wanting to maximize cap flexibility on McCarthy’s cheap contract, that could be a Kwesi decision that created tension with O’Connell and others.

With Adofo-Mensah gone, we should find out what O’Connell really thinks of McCarthy’s potential in 2026 and beyond.

There will be reputational pressure to turn things around after the 2025 disaster, but there won’t be the pressure to justify a draft pick since the GM whose name is attached to the choice is gone. A big swing away from McCarthy — either with a trade for an established franchise QB, a multiyear deal for a potential starter or even drafting a new QB in 2026 — would be a clear sign. Even bringing in a potential bridge QB as true competition for the No. 1 job would be an indicator.

If the Vikings were being honest with themselves, the best course of action in 2026 would be to hit the brakes instead of the gas.

They need to give what is anticipated to be a nine-pick draft class plenty of playing time, which could come with growing pains. They need to clear enough cap space to be truly competitive in 2027 instead of just functional in 2026. And they desperately need to know by the end of the season what their long-term QB plan is. They could still be a playoff team in this scenario, but short-term success wouldn’t be the priority.

Whether the Wilf family will create space for patience is another issue. They want to be competitive every year, a noble goal that sometimes fights against a bigger-picture vision. “With this structure, we have an urgency to create a winning football team and establish sustainable success for our fans,” Mark Wilf said on Friday.

STRIB

[supafreak84]

Whether the Wilf family will create space for patience is another issue. They want to be competitive every year, a noble goal that sometimes fights against a bigger-picture vision. “With this structure, we have an urgency to create a winning football team and establish sustainable success for our fans,” Mark Wilf said on Friday.

STRIB

Sums up the problem with ownership perfectly. In today's NFL (more times than not) teams need to take their lumps for a couple years, reset, and hopefully you have the right braintrust in place to oversee the roster overhaul. Look no further than the Patriots, who parlayed back-to-back 4 win seasons into drafting Drake Maye and will now play in the Super Bowl on Sunday. Our owners do everything they can to "be competitive" without looking big picture. We are all tired of this organization being "competitive" and want an actual Super Bowl contender.

[MaroonBells]

Kwesi picks

’25—5 picks, 1 Viking starting; 0 starting elsewhere
'24—7 picks, 3 Vikings starting; 0 starting elsewhere
’23—6 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
’22—10 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Houston

Pre-Kwesi picks…
'21—11 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
'20—15 picks, 2 Vikings starting; 1 starting Jax
'19—12 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 1 starting NE
'18—8 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Vegas
'17—11 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 0 elsewhere
'16—8 picks, 0 Vikings starting,; 0 elsewhere

[pattersaur]

Kwesi picks

’25—5 picks, 1 Viking starting; 0 starting elsewhere
'24—7 picks, 3 Vikings starting; 0 starting elsewhere
’23—6 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
’22—10 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Houston

Pre-Kwesi picks…
'21—11 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
'20—15 picks, 2 Vikings starting; 1 starting Jax
'19—12 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 1 starting NE
'18—8 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Vegas
'17—11 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 0 elsewhere
'16—8 picks, 0 Vikings starting,; 0 elsewhere

People want a smoking gun but I believe the Wilfs when they say it wasn’t any one thing that got KAM canned.

If anything, based on what we’re hearing it sounds like his interpersonal relationships or lack thereof played the biggest part in his ousting.

To add- I wish Kwesi would have drafted better but that’s not the biggest issue I had with him or his predecessor. To me, it’s very annoying this team constantly lets good players walk and gets nothing or very little in return. Hunter, Darnold, Cousins, all recent high profile examples.

[purplefaithful]

Kwesi picks

’25—5 picks, 1 Viking starting; 0 starting elsewhere
'24—7 picks, 3 Vikings starting; 0 starting elsewhere
’23—6 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
’22—10 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Houston

Pre-Kwesi picks…
'21—11 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Indy
'20—15 picks, 2 Vikings starting; 1 starting Jax
'19—12 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 1 starting NE
'18—8 picks, 1 Viking starting; 1 starting Vegas
'17—11 picks, 0 Vikings starting; 0 elsewhere
'16—8 picks, 0 Vikings starting,; 0 elsewhere

Knock it off with the facts and stats...

History teaches us that if you tell tales for long enough? They become reality for many. 

I used to have to preach to my pre-teen/teen (for a long, long time) that your level of conviction doesn't necessarily correlate with your level of being right... I dont miss those days lol!

[MaroonBells]

People want a smoking gun but I believe the Wilfs when they say it wasn’t any one thing that got KAM canned.

If anything, based on what we’re hearing it sounds like his interpersonal relationships or lack thereof played the biggest part in his ousting.

To add- I wish Kwesi would have drafted better but that’s not the biggest issue I had with him or his predecessor. To me, it’s very annoying this team constantly lets good players walk and gets nothing or very little in return. Hunter, Darnold, Cousins, all recent high profile examples.

He wasn't a great drafting GM. But he wasn't as bad as some make it sound. We all call the draft a "crapshoot" for a reason: Because that's exactly what it is. Luck plays a big part. I'm convinced that if you put 16 NFL GMs with a big board in one draft room and 16 monkeys with a big board in another draft room, and then ranked those drafts 5 years later. Monkeys would have fair representation in the top 10. 

Also, his extension happened AFTER all four of his drafts. If his draft history is the biggest problem, that doesn't happen. No, I think something happened, or something was learned or realized, between the extension and now.

[comet52]

Knock it off with the facts and stats...

History teaches us that if you tell tales for long enough? They become reality for many. 

Facts and stats aren't hard to understand if you can find the ones that matter:

"The Vikings have received only 172 starts from players drafted between 2022 and 2025, the second fewest in the league. They are one of 11 NFL teams that haven't drafted a Pro Bowl player over that period."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/4777...-4-seasons

[MaroonBells]

Facts and stats aren't hard to understand if you can find the ones that matter:

"The Vikings have received only 172 starts from players drafted between 2022 and 2025, the second fewest in the league. They are one of 11 NFL teams that haven't drafted a Pro Bowl player over that period."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/4777...-4-seasons

The Vikings are obviously going to do poorly in that metric given the fact that JJ McCarthy, Dallas Turner and Khyree Jackson were 0 fer 51 in starts in 2024. That didn’t improve much in 2025 for the same reasons. I don’t think I need to tell you the reasons why, but it has nothing to do with whether those were good picks or not. The Vikings haven't had a 2nd rounder in 4 years. And like I said before, it's not like we lost them in a poker game. All of our 2023 2nd rounder’s possible starts (51) would be found in TJ Hockenson. All 34 of our 2024 and 2025 2nd rounder possible starts (34) would be found in Dallas Turner.