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(01-23-2026, 04:20 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: I am not condoning interrupting a religious service of any kind.

But the White House inventing reality?  That I might be a little bit against.
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The White House posted a digitally altered photo of Minneapolis civil rights activist Nekima Levy Armstrong that depicts her crying as she’s arrested by federal agents in connection with the demonstration at a church service on Jan. 18.

In a previous version of the image posted by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, Levy Armstrong is composed, with a calm face as she’s led away by a law enforcement officer.

Asked about the altered photo, the White House directed the Minnesota Star Tribune to a post on X from Kaelan Dorr, deputy communications director. “Enforcement of the law will continue. The memes will continue. Thank you for your attention to this matter,” the post says.

The NYT independently analyzed the photo through an AI detection system, which concluded that the first photo posted by Noem is real and the version posted by the White House appears to have been manipulated.

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no offense,  but where were you on the last administration and Dem party manipulating social media and disseminating fake news over the last decade?  I dont think this picture is a good look,   but this is small potatoes to the tampering with facts and news from those controlling the media and such from russia gate, j6, covid, etc etc etc.
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(01-23-2026, 05:38 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: no offense,  but where were you on the last administration and Dem party manipulating social media and disseminating fake news over the last decade?  I dont think this picture is a good look,   but this is small potatoes to the tampering with facts and news from those controlling the media and such from russia gate, j6, covid, etc etc etc.

Past sins dont give current ones a pass and past sins are still sins even after time has passed. Hell, they gotta go back to colonial days. 

IMO, this whole surge is politically motivated (how many illegals are really here in MN at the end of the day???) I mean it's gotta be minuscule vs other states right? Maybe I'm wrong? It wouldn't be the first (or last) time. 

In retrospect, I think MN was ripe for a political war; a declared sanctuary state, over indexes on Somalis, rampant Medicaid fraud, Walz, and a state that didnt vote Trumps way in 16, 20 or 24. 

I think part of the success of the surge will hinge on public opinion and perceptions going forward. I'm not sure if Washington's winning that or not? I guess that depends on what poll u read and what news you watch.

All that said, at the end of the day, I think a lot of us up here look forward to going back to fly-over country. We gotta focus our attention on healing, get at the fraud & criminals/systems that allowed it and elect a new Gov. 

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(01-23-2026, 06:39 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Past sins dont give current ones a pass and past sins are still sins even after time has passed. Hell, they gotta go back to colonial days. 

IMO, this whole surge is politically motivated (how many illegals are really here in MN at the end of the day???) I mean it's gotta be minuscule vs other states right? Maybe I'm wrong? It wouldn't be the first (or last) time. 

In retrospect, I think MN was ripe for a political war; a declared sanctuary state, over indexes on Somalis, rampant Medicaid fraud, Walz, and a state that didnt vote Trumps way in 16, 20 or 24. 

I think part of the success of the surge will hinge on public opinion and perceptions going forward. I'm not sure if Washington's winning that or not? I guess that depends on what poll u read and what news you watch.

All that said, at the end of the day, I think a lot of us up here look forward to going back to fly-over country. We gotta focus our attention on healing, get at the fraud & criminals/systems that allowed it and elect a new Gov. 

Stay warm this bone chilling weekend...

What made it political were the defiant actions of your leadership inviting illegals and offering them a safe space.  There wouldn't have been the need for nearly as many ICE and other federal agencies agents if your state and local law enforcement would have been willing/allowed to assist in operations to begin with.  Why were they not allowed to assist?  I bet they assisted under Obama and Biden... politics,  so who has made it political,  the media and the defiant dems.

As fsr as past sins.... doesnt that really depend on who the sinner is,  or current sins,  that was my point.  You were largely  silent or dismissive to the sins of those you support, but now take issue with a little thing like this?  The white house didnt edit the photo,   all they did was share it,  IMO its petty and juvenile and not a good look for the administration,   but when the story line is so slanted to begin with,  im hardly losing sleep over some fucking loon getting smeared a little.  Imagine a white man openly disrupting Muslim worship,  how would that get played?  How hard would Tucker Carlson burn if he was involved like lemon?  The double standard is a big problem we have in this country, and until we see some real concern for sins of the dems by the dems,  I dont see a lot of raised expectations from the right either.

And yes,   I am hoping to see some peace find its way to the streets and neighborhoods of Minny soon.
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(01-24-2026, 07:31 AM)JimmyinSD Wrote: What made it political were the defiant actions of your leadership inviting illegals and offering them a safe space.  There wouldn't have been the need for nearly as many ICE and other federal agencies agents if your state and local law enforcement would have been willing/allowed to assist in operations to begin with.  Why were they not allowed to assist?  I bet they assisted under Obama and Biden... politics,  so who has made it political,  the media and the defiant dems.

As fsr as past sins.... doesnt that really depend on who the sinner is,  or current sins,  that was my point.  You were largely  silent or dismissive to the sins of those you support, but now take issue with a little thing like this?  The white house didnt edit the photo,   all they did was share it,  IMO its petty and juvenile and not a good look for the administration,   but when the story line is so slanted to begin with,  im hardly losing sleep over some fucking loon getting smeared a little.  Imagine a white man openly disrupting Muslim worship,  how would that get played?  How hard would Tucker Carlson burn if he was involved like lemon?  The double standard is a big problem we have in this country, and until we see some real concern for sins of the dems by the dems,  I dont see a lot of raised expectations from the right either.

And yes,   I am hoping to see some peace find its way to the streets and neighborhoods of Minny soon.

I see another person was shot and killed by an ICE agent in South Mpls this morning. More to come on that one.

There is no justification for DHS/ICE coming in here in the scale they have and how they have attempted to do their jobs. I'm not convinced Noem/Potus are happy with how this has gone down and I strongly believe most of USA view it with concern, at least those that aren't deep Maga in their beliefs.

Again, this is NOT about illegal immigrants or not, ridding the country of the worst of the worst, this is about HOW ICE is doing their job in MN.

We simply want them to leave now.

The whole macro picture in this country is a big olde swirl of the same shit imo. Like a turd going down the toilet the morning after a big Taco Bell dinner. These are the same issues /differences our country has been dealing with for a long time now.

ITs just amplified with social media and the overall temp in the country is hotter with a potus who leads with agitation and disruption (domestically and globally). I mean who would have ever thought an American President would call out a whole race of people, label them garbage and tell them to leave? It's just insanity. And it's shameful that nobody on that side of the aisle said one word. Not even the Republicans here in Minny.

Yup, I'm with you in hoping for peace in Minny soon and thoughts/prayers to the next city in the cross-hairs. It's just a matter of where/when. We wont have a dog in the next fight, but we in MN will do what we can to support em.
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(01-24-2026, 11:06 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: I see another person was shot and killed by an ICE agent in South Mpls this morning. More to come on that one.

There is no justification for DHS/ICE coming in here in the scale they have and how they have attempted to do their jobs. I'm not convinced Noem/Potus are happy with how this has gone down and I strongly believe most of USA view it with concern, at least those that aren't deep Maga in their beliefs.

Again, this is NOT about illegal immigrants or not, ridding the country of the worst of the worst or not, this is about HOW ICE is doing their job in MN. We simply want them to leave now.

The whole macro picture in this country is a big olde swirl of the same shit imo. Like a turd going down the toilet the morning after a big Taco Bell dinner. These are the same issues /differences our country has been dealing with for a long time now.

ITs just amplified with social media and the overall temp in the country is hotter with a potus who leads with agitation and disruption (domestically and globally). I mean who would have ever thought an American President would call out a whole race of people, label them garbage and tell them to leave? It's just insanity. And it's shameful that nobody on that side of the aisle said one word. Not even the Republicans here in Minny.

Yup, I'm with you in hoping for peace in Minny soon and thoughts/prayers to the next city in the cross-hairs. It's just a matter of where/when. We wont have a dog in the next fight, but we in MN will do what we can to support em.

Good to see walz ratcheting things up as usual.   I agree trumps painting with a wide brush is sickening,   but is it more sickening than all the labels that have been thrown at conservatives the last decade by liberals  and their media?  Not really.  You want ICE out of MN,  tell your politicians to quit inviting the illegals and encourage local LEOs to work with the feds to make the situation safer for all.

I dont like how its turning out,    but its not ICE agents fault that minny became a safe haven for criminals and the local LEOs were told to stand down.  This is the result of decades of liberal ideals creating a cesspool of corruption and crime.  I am sure there a sone wonderful Somalians,  but how many are assimilating into our culture vs trying to turn the US into another Mogadishu?  

Its not just a Minnesota problem, it travels,  we have seen significant increases in crime issues along our border with MN over the last decade,  perhaps a sign of the times,  or perhaps just a urban problem that is sprawling.
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(01-24-2026, 12:39 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: Good to see walz ratcheting things up as usual.   I agree trumps painting with a wide brush is sickening,   but is it more sickening than all the labels that have been thrown at conservatives the last decade by liberals  and their media?  Not really.  You want ICE out of MN,  tell your politicians to quit inviting the illegals and encourage local LEOs to work with the feds to make the situation safer for all.

I dont like how its turning out,    but its not ICE agents fault that minny became a safe haven for criminals and the local LEOs were told to stand down.  This is the result of decades of liberal ideals creating a cesspool of corruption and crime.  I am sure there a sone wonderful Somalians,  but how many are assimilating into our culture vs trying to turn the US into another Mogadishu?  

Its not just a Minnesota problem, it travels,  we have seen significant increases in crime issues along our border with MN over the last decade,  perhaps a sign of the times,  or perhaps just a urban problem that is sprawling.

Actually crime was on the down-turn here in Mpls/St Paul...

Hey, we disagree, but respectfully and I appreciate how you approach tough discussions. 

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Not sure if this one will make everyones media..

It's so representative of  Minnesota nice too. Im glad to see it's still in our bonz.

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The ICE vehicle had barely made it two blocks when something went wrong.

Tippy Amundson, 39, and Heather Zemien, 55, were sitting handcuffed in the back seat of a three-row SUV on the afternoon of Jan. 22 in Brooklyn Park, detained by federal immigration agents and heading toward the Whipple Federal Building. The third row had been folded down. One agent sat behind them without a seat belt. Two others were in front.

They were stopped at a light when the agent in the front passenger seat said out loud that he wasn’t feeling well.

Then his body began to tilt. His arms flailed. His words dissolved into sounds that didn’t make sense.

“To us, it was obvious,” Amundson said. “It wasn’t obvious to them.”

Amundson and Zemien were the only ones who recognized that the man was having a seizure. They spoke up immediately, telling the driver to pull over and telling the agents to call 911. When nothing happened, they repeated it, louder and more urgently.

The account that follows is based on interviews with Amundson and Zemien. Immigration and Customs Enforcement did not respond to requests for information about the incident or questions about its medical and safety protocols.

Amundson and Zemien said they were advised by attorneys not to talk about why they were being held.

The SUV lurched over a curb and came to rest at an angle on the sidewalk near Welcome Avenue, just off a busy stretch by an Aldi. Amundson could hear the agent’s tongue and fluids blocking his airway. She asked to be uncuffed.

“He’s going to stop breathing,” she told them.

Amundson, a kindergarten teacher who has received CPR and first-aid training through school emergency planning, moved without hesitation once the cuffs came off. The agents stepped out of the vehicle, leaving the driver’s door open, the engine running and the keys inside. Weapons were still in reach.

Amundson ran around the car and knelt beside the agent, trying to turn him onto his side. She spoke to him calmly, telling him he was safe and that help was coming. She said she was aware that people having seizures can often hear what’s being said around them.

When he began to lose consciousness, she moved his gun from its holster so she could position him properly. She cradled his head as another seizure came.

Zemien, a personal care attendant, grabbed one of the agents’ tactical vests from the ground, rolled it up and slid it under his head to keep his airway open. She told the agents to shut the car doors so he wouldn’t lose body heat.

“He had two more seizures after that,” Zemien said. “We had to tell them every step of the way what to do.”

By the time emergency medical responders arrived, the women had been holding the agent steady for several minutes. They were detained but acting as first responders to the man who had detained them.

Once the agent was transferred to medical care, Amundson and Zemien were placed into another vehicle and driven to Whipple anyway.

“I asked if we could just go home,” Amundson said. “I said, ‘We just saved his life. Is that cool with you?’ And they said no.”

On the drive, Amundson asked when they would be allowed to call a lawyer. An agent told her they “should” be able to at Whipple but said he didn’t really know the policy. After a pause, he added that because they had helped one of the agents, they could call one person.

Zemien called her attorney. By then, their support network was already mobilizing. Using a voice command to text a message during the detention, Amundson had managed to alert her husband, who contacted their state representative. Legal paperwork was already being gathered. A meeting at Whipple was already being arranged.

A commanding officer eventually approached them.

“We’re releasing you to your counsel and to your state representative,” the officer said, according to Amundson. “But you need to tell everybody that we treated you kindly.”
They were driven to the front of the Whipple Federal Building and released into their representative’s car.

What stayed with Amundson most, she said, was not the adrenaline of the moment but the realization that came while she was holding the agent’s head in her hands and keeping his airway open.

“I was hit so hard with the fact that this man would not do this for me,” she said.

Her mind went immediately to Renee Good.

Earlier this month, Good, a citizen observer and U.S. citizen, was shot three times by an ICE agent during an enforcement action in Minneapolis. According to witnesses and officials, a person who identified themselves as a medic was not permitted to provide care after the shooting. Agents said ICE had its own medical personnel. Several minutes passed before aid was rendered. Good died at the scene.

ICE has said its agents followed protocol.

The two women said the contrast between the incidents was difficult to ignore.

“We were willing to do for this man, this human, what they were not willing to do for Renee Good,” Zemien said.

“It’s important for people to know how ill-prepared they are,” Amundson said. “And how untrained.”

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(01-24-2026, 01:00 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Actually crime was on the down-turn here in Mpls/St Paul...

Hey, we disagree, but respectfully and I appreciate how you approach tough discussions. 

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Not sure if this one will make everyones media..

It's so representative of  Minnesota nice too. Im glad to see it's still in our bonz.

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The ICE vehicle had barely made it two blocks when something went wrong.

Tippy Amundson, 39, and Heather Zemien, 55, were sitting handcuffed in the back seat of a three-row SUV on the afternoon of Jan. 22 in Brooklyn Park, detained by federal immigration agents and heading toward the Whipple Federal Building. The third row had been folded down. One agent sat behind them without a seat belt. Two others were in front.

They were stopped at a light when the agent in the front passenger seat said out loud that he wasn’t feeling well.

Then his body began to tilt. His arms flailed. His words dissolved into sounds that didn’t make sense.

“To us, it was obvious,” Amundson said. “It wasn’t obvious to them.”

Amundson and Zemien were the only ones who recognized that the man was having a seizure. They spoke up immediately, telling the driver to pull over and telling the agents to call 911. When nothing happened, they repeated it, louder and more urgently.

The account that follows is based on interviews with Amundson and Zemien. Immigration and Customs Enforcement did not respond to requests for information about the incident or questions about its medical and safety protocols.

Amundson and Zemien said they were advised by attorneys not to talk about why they were being held.

The SUV lurched over a curb and came to rest at an angle on the sidewalk near Welcome Avenue, just off a busy stretch by an Aldi. Amundson could hear the agent’s tongue and fluids blocking his airway. She asked to be uncuffed.

“He’s going to stop breathing,” she told them.

Amundson, a kindergarten teacher who has received CPR and first-aid training through school emergency planning, moved without hesitation once the cuffs came off. The agents stepped out of the vehicle, leaving the driver’s door open, the engine running and the keys inside. Weapons were still in reach.

Amundson ran around the car and knelt beside the agent, trying to turn him onto his side. She spoke to him calmly, telling him he was safe and that help was coming. She said she was aware that people having seizures can often hear what’s being said around them.

When he began to lose consciousness, she moved his gun from its holster so she could position him properly. She cradled his head as another seizure came.

Zemien, a personal care attendant, grabbed one of the agents’ tactical vests from the ground, rolled it up and slid it under his head to keep his airway open. She told the agents to shut the car doors so he wouldn’t lose body heat.

“He had two more seizures after that,” Zemien said. “We had to tell them every step of the way what to do.”

By the time emergency medical responders arrived, the women had been holding the agent steady for several minutes. They were detained but acting as first responders to the man who had detained them.

Once the agent was transferred to medical care, Amundson and Zemien were placed into another vehicle and driven to Whipple anyway.

“I asked if we could just go home,” Amundson said. “I said, ‘We just saved his life. Is that cool with you?’ And they said no.”

On the drive, Amundson asked when they would be allowed to call a lawyer. An agent told her they “should” be able to at Whipple but said he didn’t really know the policy. After a pause, he added that because they had helped one of the agents, they could call one person.

Zemien called her attorney. By then, their support network was already mobilizing. Using a voice command to text a message during the detention, Amundson had managed to alert her husband, who contacted their state representative. Legal paperwork was already being gathered. A meeting at Whipple was already being arranged.

A commanding officer eventually approached them.

“We’re releasing you to your counsel and to your state representative,” the officer said, according to Amundson. “But you need to tell everybody that we treated you kindly.”
They were driven to the front of the Whipple Federal Building and released into their representative’s car.

What stayed with Amundson most, she said, was not the adrenaline of the moment but the realization that came while she was holding the agent’s head in her hands and keeping his airway open.

“I was hit so hard with the fact that this man would not do this for me,” she said.

Her mind went immediately to Renee Good.

Earlier this month, Good, a citizen observer and U.S. citizen, was shot three times by an ICE agent during an enforcement action in Minneapolis. According to witnesses and officials, a person who identified themselves as a medic was not permitted to provide care after the shooting. Agents said ICE had its own medical personnel. Several minutes passed before aid was rendered. Good died at the scene.

ICE has said its agents followed protocol.

The two women said the contrast between the incidents was difficult to ignore.

“We were willing to do for this man, this human, what they were not willing to do for Renee Good,” Zemien said.

“It’s important for people to know how ill-prepared they are,” Amundson said. “And how untrained.”

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Crime statistics are skewed because liberal AGs wont do their jobs and prosecute the criminals.  ( regardless of color, race, or whatever)  also the legalization of pot has lowered the stats,  different discussion there as well.
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(01-24-2026, 02:59 PM)JimmyinSD Wrote: Crime statistics are skewed because liberal AGs wont do their jobs and prosecute the criminals.  ( regardless of color, race, or whatever)  also the legalization of pot has lowered the stats,  different discussion there as well.

I dont know about liberal AG's not doing their jobs or not, that sounds a bit of a political lens vs anything factual...I can tell you that I am personally glad Moriarity is leaving soon as a Hennepin County Prosecutor. I think she was too lenient and had a defender background when hired - not the mindset u want in a prosecutor for sure.

But I can cite these stats off the interwebs regarding Mpls specifically:

Homicides: Down from 77 in 2024 to 64 in 2025, and significantly lower than peak levels in 2021.
Shootings: 91 victims in 2025, down from 135 in 2024, marking the lowest number of shooting victims in North Minneapolis ever recorded.
Robberies: Decreased by 50% from its 2021 peak.
Carjackings: Also saw substantial drops of 50-70% compared to prior years.
Auto Theft: Down 26% from recent years, though still a challenge.
Source: Google AI

Chief O'Hara and his local LEO is doing an exemplary job and sadly this surge is just trashing the goodwill they have worked so hard to gain with the citizens. Not only that, it's Okeeping them from doing their day job of protecting streets, neighborhoods from local crime.
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#49
Another armed brainiac (this time a 9mm not a Honda Pilot) interferes with federal law enforcement executing their duties.
Doesnt end well.

https://twitter.com/DropSiteNews/status/...3622021472
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(01-24-2026, 04:25 PM)savannahskol Wrote: Another armed brainiac (this time a 9mm not a Honda Pilot) interferes with federal law enforcement executing their duties. 
Doesnt end well. 

https://twitter.com/DropSiteNews/status/...3622021472

There is still alot to unpack here, not sure I'm seeing where those 6 guys felt threatened enough to take a life, but I am not an expert by any means.

I sure wish he would have left that 9mm at home. Regardless as to whether he had a permit to carry or not (which he did.)
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