ICE SHOOTING

[JimmyinSD]

Interesting that there is no discussion on this one.  Is this a matter of respect for our fellow posters that we acknowledge that there will be a disagreement as to blame?  I would really like to think this is the case for the sake of our board.

I doubt that is the case though so please be civil as the fucking media and politicians ratchet up the mis information and rhetoric in order to keep our brothers and sisters at odds.

SKOL VIKES!!!

[Waterboy]

Interesting that there is no discussion on this one.  Is this a matter of respect for our fellow posters that we acknowledge that there will be a disagreement as to blame?  I would really like to think this is the case for the sake of our board.

I doubt that is the case though so please be civil as the fucking media and politicians ratchet up the mis information and rhetoric in order to keep our brothers and sisters at odds.

SKOL VIKES!!!

I’m so tired of people pushing back against the police. If they tell you to stop, you stop, no questions asked.  I don’t think she was necessarily trying to run the ICE Agrnt over, but her getting away was more important at that time than the concern she would severely injure an officer. Slow motion replay definitely shows her gunning the car while aimed directly (the wheels spun) at the agent and then also hitting the agent which justified his reaction. She paid a big price for a dumb decision.  It’s too bad on many fronts.  The leaders of the Democrat party are the true murderers here, the same as with Charlie Kirk. The beginning of this video demonstrates pretty clearly she was gunning the car directly at the officer. I think she just stupidly didn't consider that action could kill someone.

https://youtu.be/6rLeKHmewvA?si=NrWu7FJWHvTbRM3R

[purplefaithful]

Jimmy, we dont see eye:eye on this, but I appreciate the spirit with which you opened the thread

I dont think many believe she was anything but scared and trying to get away. Many dont know (yet) that she was the widow of a military veteran who suffered with PTSD, a mother, a christian a poet and an artist. I told my wife I wish she would have just gotten out of the car - for her children's sake.

We're a resilient group up here in MN; add this to the heap of the 35w bridge collapse, Floyd, Hortmans, Annunciation and more...We will respectfully remember and honor those we lost and we'll overcome in our state wide grief.

Over $1mm has been raised so far on her survivors behalf. Sadly, no amount of $$ will take the place of these children losing their mother.

We have ZERO expectations of anything to come from the Feds investigation, one that the Feds wont partner on with the state BCA...

I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I am experienced. There will be a heavy political price to pay for the political theatre/thumping DC is taking to progressive states. Just a matter of when.

Peace out all...

Time for me to dust off a golden oldie that is sadly relevant again in 2026 for many in our country.

[JimmyinSD]

Jimmy, we dont see eye:eye on this, but I appreciate the spirit with which you opened the thread

I dont think many believe she was anything but scared and trying to get away. Many dont know (yet) that she was the widow of a military veteran who suffered with PTSD, a mother, a christian a poet and an artist. I told my wife I wish she would have just gotten out of the car - for her children's sake.

We're a resilient group up here in MN; add this to the heap of the 35w bridge collapse, Floyd, Hortmans, Annunciation and more...We will respectfully remember and honor those we lost and we'll overcome in our state wide grief.

Over $1mm has been raised so far on her survivors behalf. Sadly, no amount of $$ will take the place of these children losing their mother.

We have ZERO expectations of anything to come from the Feds investigation, one that the Feds wont partner on with the state BCA...

I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I am experienced. There will be a heavy political price to pay for the political theatre/thumping DC is taking to progressive states. Just a matter of when.

Peace out all...

Time for me to dust off a golden oldie that is sadly relevant again in 2026 for many in our country.

I dont know that I would call what has been taking place in MN the last couple decades as "Progressive"  that term seems to imply successfully moving forward,  I dont see the direction of MN good for many native Minnesotans,  if it were your "progressive" governor wouldnt be fleeing to a conservative state for his retirement years.

as far as the deceased,  she may be a good person,  or this may be the media sugar coat just like george flloyd all over again.  either way she was not an innocent vicitm,  those agents had a job to do and she was interfering with them doing their work.  we will have to agree to disagree on how to perceive her reaction to  a lawful order and nearly taking out a federal law enforcement officer.

I tend to think this video is more appropriate,  it applies to much more than just black people.

[VikingOracle]

I dont know that I would call what has been taking place in MN the last couple decades as "Progressive"  that term seems to imply successfully moving forward,  I dont see the direction of MN good for many native Minnesotans,  if it were your "progressive" governor wouldnt be fleeing to a conservative state for his retirement years.

as far as the deceased,  she may be a good person,  or this may be the media sugar coat just like george flloyd all over again.  either way she was not an innocent vicitm,  those agents had a job to do and she was interfering with them doing their work.  we will have to agree to disagree on how to perceive her reaction to  a lawful order and nearly taking out a federal law enforcement officer.

I tend to think this video is more appropriate,  it applies to much more than just black people.

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
   
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."
   

Thanks.

[Waterboy]

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
   
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."
   

Thanks.

Oracle,

Are you just generally asking Jimmy because you don't know the details or more likely are you insinuating, he's treating similar cases differently?  Please give a detailed explanation of both and why you think they're so similar?  You're implying that they are, so please tell us outside of law enforcement and protestor how they're exactly the same.  I am assuming you know the details, and not just making a lazy comparison?

[savannahskol]

New vid post from ICE body cam released:


https://twitter.com/AlphaNews/status/200...2289626385


Footage taken by the ICE Agent forced to shoot a Minneapolis left-wing activist in self-defense proves what we already knew: that Renee Good aimed her two-ton SUV at this ICE agent and hit the gas.

As you can see, the ICE officer in question calmly exits his vehicle and approaches Good’s maroon, two-ton SUV, which she is using to block the road deliberately, and doing so while ICE is engaged in a law enforcement operation.

First, a smug-looking Renee Good taunts the ICE agent from the driver’s seat. Then Good’s equally smug “wife,” Rebecca, taunts the agent. “You wanna come at us?” she says. “You wanna come at us? Why don’t you go get yourself some lunch, big boy? Go ahead.”

It’s worth noting that the ICE agent says nothing in return. He doesn’t take the bait or allow himself to be provoked. He’s doing nothing to escalate the situation.

Nevertheless, the SUV still needs to be moved in order for these ICE officers to do their job and not risk an ambush in a hostile situation, so another agent can be heard ordering Renee to “get out of the car.”

And then it all happens within a second or two.

As the ICE agent in question attempts to walk around the SUV, apparently to assist his colleague in removing the poet from her vehicle, you can see that her tires are aimed screen right. Then she backs up while turning her tires to screen left, which aims the SUV directly at the ICE agent. Then she hits the gas and hits the agent. This is when the ICE agent, who had no choice, shoots her in an obvious case of self-defense.

Watch the video again, and you will see that Renee Good is looking directly at the ICE agent when she hits the gas.

At this point, there is no question that Renee Good did everything possible to get herself shot: She 1) interfered with a law enforcement operation, 2) refused a lawful order to exit her car, 3) backed up her two-ton SUV while being ordered to exit her car, 4) aimed that SUV at an ICE Agent, and 5) hit the gas.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what her intent was. If she was trying to kill the ICE agent, the shooting was justified. If she was willing to run over an ICE agent to escape arrest, the shooting was justified.

Once you prove — as our poet did — that you are willing to use a two-ton vehicle as a deadly weapon, you have proven that you must be stopped because you are not only a danger to this ICE agent, you are a danger to anyone else who makes the mistake of getting in your way.

In this case, deadly force was not only justified; it was the only moral choice.

This ICE officer needs to file defamation suits against every politician and media outlet that declared him a murderer.

-J Nolte

[purplefaithful]

I'll stick to my original contention that I wish she would have gotten out of the car, a life could have been saved and mom would still be raising kids.

I also wish the Feds would have stuck with their original plan/agreement and partnered with the State BCA to put a final verdict on this...

The most likely defense Ross will give is that he feared for his life in the path of her car. As of today, no one except Ross himself can speak to that — not Trump, not Vance or Noem. Nor can any of them say what Good was thinking or intending to do in the final seconds of their encounter.

They can only infer, and that is precisely why investigations exist: to determine what happened, based on evidence. For many, the optics are that Noem has declared herself the judge, jury and executioner on this, without a fair, transparent due process. 

Maybe I am misquoting him, but I think Vance is wrong by saying Feds have absolute immunity:

The answer more lies in that Federal Agents (ice/fbi) do not have absolute immunity from state prosecution for crimes. However, they can often move cases to federal court, where they may assert that their actions were "necessary and proper" to their duties.

Probs a matter of time till a civil suit is filed and I see now that MN (the state) is embarking on their own investigation at this time. Might be a toothless endeavor when its all said and done, but I am glad they choose to move ahead on their own since the Feds booted them to the curb and left them no choice.

[JimmyinSD]

Jimmy:

Respectfully, I am interested in your thoughts on the following:

1. The Trump administration agreeing to a nearly $5 million settlement in the wrongful death lawsuit filed by the family of Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by a U.S. Capitol Police officer during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot 
   
2. Trump's statements that Renee Good “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer” and "it is hard to believe he is alive."
   

Thanks.

I dont know enough about the first one to have an educated opinion,  I will say I wouldnt be surprised if the pay out isnt necessarily a matter of guilt,  it may very well be the legal recommendation.  a jury in that area could very easily make a much larger award. I have seen many cases where the victim was very much responsible for their own misfortune and ended up getting paid.  I dont know the circumstances around the shooting so I wont say one way or the other.  I do know that with as many FBI agents that have been tied to that event,  and the evidence of the FBI encouraging and promoting illegal activities,  coupled with all the half truths and lies that have come out about the events of Jan 6th.... I dont know that I would believe what I find on it if I did go digging.

and no I dont believe the deceased in the MN incident is innocent,  I dont know that I believe that she was doing it with intent,  but she put herself into a terrible situation and her children are paying dearly for her recklessness.

[JimmyinSD]

I'll stick to my original contention that I wish she would have gotten out of the car, a life could have been saved and mom would still be raising kids.

I also wish the Feds would have stuck with their original plan/agreement and partnered with the State BCA to put a final verdict on this...

The most likely defense Ross will give is that he feared for his life in the path of her car. As of today, no one except Ross himself can speak to that — not Trump, not Vance or Noem. Nor can any of them say what Good was thinking or intending to do in the final seconds of their encounter.

That is precisely why investigations exist: to determine what happened, based on evidence. For many, the optics are that Noem has declared herself the judge, jury and executioner on this, without a fair, transparent due process.

Probs a matter of time till a civil suit is filed and I see now that MN (the state) is embarking on their own investigation at this time. Might be a toothless endeavor when its all said and done, but I am glad they choose to move ahead on their own since the Feds booted them to the curb and left them no choice.

you know what would have prevented all of this... if people and the media would just cut the bull shit and let these people do their jobs,  if you dont like their job then change the laws that they are paid to enforce.  its the anti govt rhetoric because they dont like the team that won that is creating these incidents by emboldening and enraging the minions.