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(Yesterday, 01:40 PM)medaille Wrote: Agreed. I just don't think there's anyway that this defense is going to look legit good, when our offense is sitting on the bench because they couldn't sustain a drive all game, or worse, turned the ball over in their own end. I do think they're not playing well and will get better, but they just aren't an overwhelming defense that can shut down other teams. This defense needs the offense to be putting pressure on the other team pressing them to try harder and be in more obvious passing downs.
Viking offense ranks 24th in time of possession this year and 27th in 3rd down conversions. The offense is doing the defense no favors
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Pace is leading the league in missed tackles.
in a contact year..... ?
Something's way off.
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(Yesterday, 03:30 PM)Mattyman Wrote: Pace is leading the league in tackles.
in a contact year..... ?
Something's way of.
Where did you hear that? Pace does not lead the league in tackles. Not even close.
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Jordyn Brooks of the Miami Dolphins is leading the NFL in total tackles with 93 for the 2025 season.
Other top players include Bobby Wagner of the Washington Commanders, who has 83 total tackles, and Jamien Sherwood of the New York Jets and C.J. Gray of the Tennessee Titans, who are tied with 75 tackles.
Jordyn Brooks (Miami Dolphins): 93 total tackles
Bobby Wagner (Washington Commanders): 83 total tackles
Jamien Sherwood (New York Jets): 75 total tackles
C.J. Gray (Tennessee Titans): 75 total tackles
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In the 2025 NFL season, Ivan Pace Jr. has recorded 24 total tackles, which includes 23 solo tackles and 1 assisted tackle. He also has 1 sack and 2 forced fumbles for the 2025 season.
Solo Tackles: 23
Total Tackles: 24
Sacks: 1
Forced Fumbles: 2
Ivan Pace Jr. - NFL News, Rumors, & Updates | FOX Sports
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We've been terrible converting third down and keeping our D off the field. Getting AVG back will help. But the back end is lousy no matter how you slice it. And the guys up front aren't delivering, especially the free agents and the priciest draft pick in Viking history Dallas Turner. Flores' schemes can only do so much when you don't have the high end talent delivering results.
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Fascinating from AI.
Im sure Spock would luv the perspective lol
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As of November 1, 2025 (partway through the 2025 NFL season), the Minnesota Vikings' worst statistics are primarily in pass protection and third-down efficiency
Offense
Sack Rate Allowed: The Vikings have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL due to injuries, resulting in a high sack rate. Their 11.6% sack rate allowed ranks 30th in the league.
Third-Down Conversion Percentage: The team ranks near the bottom of the league in converting third downs, with a conversion rate around 31-33.33%, ranking 27th-31st in the NFL.
Passing Success on 3rd & Short: The Vikings have the worst passing success rate in the NFL when facing third-and-3 or fewer situations.
Total Offense (Yards/Game): The team's total offense ranks 26th in the league, averaging 296.6 yards per game.
Quarterback Performance: Both starting QBs (J.J. McCarthy and Carson Wentz) ranked near the bottom of the league in "bad throw" rate (passes that couldn't be caught with normal effort), and McCarthy had the worst EPA per dropback in the league early in the season
Defense
Points Allowed per Game: The defense has struggled with points allowed, averaging 28.61 points allowed per game, ranking among the worst in the league.
Dropback EPA Allowed: Over a recent four-game span, the defense ranked 30th in the NFL in Dropback Expected Points Added (EPA) allowed.
Run Defense Success Rate: The run defense has been a weak point, ranking 27th in success rate against the run
In summary, the most significant struggles are related to the offensive line's inability to protect the quarterback and the resulting impact on the team's ability to sustain drives and convert key third-down opportunities
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(Yesterday, 03:40 PM)MaroonBells Wrote: Where did you hear that? Pace does not lead the league in tackles. Not even close.
My bad. Left out a key word adjective.
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"Sack Rate Allowed: The Vikings have one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL due to injuries"
I'm not sure it is due to injuries anymore. They may just suck! I hope I'm wrong.
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(Yesterday, 09:10 PM)Mattyman Wrote: My bad. Left out a key word adjective.
LOL. Got it. Yes, I definitely believe Pace leads the league in missed tackles.
He's a tough call. Without him, the Vikings don't have that almost constant presence behind the LOS. With him, we get penetration but can't make the play. I think he was benched against Philly as a punishment for his missed tackles early in the season. His PFF tackling grade against Atlanta and Cleveland, for example, was in the 20s. He got some snaps against the Chargers and his tackling grade went up to 76. That's a massive improvement. It will be interesting to see if he starts getting more snaps.
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