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purplefaithful · Yesterday, 11:22 AM

Yup, as the week went on my feelies got negative...Smelled like trap game by Sunday morning.

Would be awful nice to get Kelly and CD back 100%

kmillard · Yesterday, 11:29 AM

(Yesterday, 11:22 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Yup, as the week went on my feelies got negative...Smelled like trap game by Sunday morning.

Would be awful nice to get Kelly and CD back 100%

Will be interesting to see if Darrisaw travels with them overseas. I doubt he plays before then.

StickierBuns · Yesterday, 11:38 AM

Not great:

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Vikings HC Kevin O’Connell says C Ryan Kelly has a concussion. Justin Skule has a concussion. Jonathan Greenard had oblique injury. Aaron Jones will be evaluated for a hamstring. Gabe Murphy’s MCL will be evaluated.

JR44 · Yesterday, 01:29 PM

(Yesterday, 11:38 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: Not great:

Alec Lewis
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Vikings HC Kevin O’Connell says C Ryan Kelly has a concussion. Justin Skule has a concussion. Jonathan Greenard had oblique injury. Aaron Jones will be evaluated for a hamstring. Gabe Murphy’s MCL will be evaluated.

Kelly definitely will be out next week, which will be a big loss. Hopefully Greenard can go, we really need him and Van Ginkel as they are the two most dynamic pieces of the defense. Hopefully we can get Darrisaw back, if not think we should consider putting Brandel there.

greediron · Yesterday, 03:28 PM

One other thing. What is with the ref standing over the ball and making us take a delay of game. That is shit in my book. I get the substitution rule, but why when we are at the line with the clock winding down? That took away a 2nd and 2, made it a second and 7 and then we took a sack. Could have put us in the lead.

hogjowlsjohnny · Yesterday, 05:17 PM

I guess what bothers me as much as anything is the game plan. How do you watch the tape from the Bears game and not give Skule more help, or even replace him?
What's wrong with building an inexperienced QB's confidence with quick short simple passes to the back or tight end, or a slant, that can be called in quick enough to have time to look over the defensive alignment and not be pressured by the time clock running out? How about getting a couple of those passes to Jefferson and get him involved in the game. Mix in the run, play action, and screens.
JJ had a nice throw to Jefferson before the half but missed Speedy on the long ball. JJ didn't have great long ball accuracy in college but was pretty good with the intermediate throws.
Game planning seemed more suited to Darnold than JJ.

greediron · Yesterday, 05:21 PM

(Yesterday, 05:17 PM)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: I guess what bothers me as much as anything is the game plan. How do you watch the tape from the Bears game and not give Skule more help, or even replace him?
What's wrong with building an inexperienced QB's confidence with quick short simple passes to the back or tight end, or a slant, that can be called in quick enough to have time to look over the defensive alignment and not be pressured by the time clock running out? How about getting a couple of those passes to Jefferson and get him involved in the game. Mix in the run, play action, and screens.
JJ had a nice throw to Jefferson before the half but missed Speedy on the long ball. JJ didn't have great long ball accuracy in college but was pretty good with the intermediate throws.
Game planning seemed more suited to Darnold than JJ.

Or more suited to what KOC calls.

That is exactly the problem, the NFL has figured out KOC's offense. Send pressure and take away the deep shots. He won't run the ball or use quick slants.

*JimmyinSD* · Yesterday, 05:25 PM

(Yesterday, 09:35 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: No doubt part of the reason Minnesota wanted to hold onto him this year. They have only played the Dolphins and basically were gifted a win against Denver, but he's ballin'. Looks smooth. But the biggest difference is Jones has played in what, 60 games in his career? JJ has played in 2. For the fans that don't understand (and I'm not saying you) that patience is Job 1 this year with McCarthy, they are forgetting how QBs become better. Reps. KOC knew this would happen, but you can't put off McCarthy's development a whole additional year and expect him to improve. He knew this also. And the problems so far aren't just on JJM's back. Guys like Nix and Penix are also 3 years older than JJ.

The idea is this team will grow together. Let's see if that happens.

how is it that we can take 40% of their starting OL... and their QB hasnt been sacked yet this year, meanwhile our guy has been planted 9 times? thats not how this shit is supposed to work.

medaille · Yesterday, 05:34 PM

(Yesterday, 05:21 PM)greediron Wrote: Or more suited to what KOC calls.

That is exactly the problem, the NFL has figured out KOC's offense. Send pressure and take away the deep shots. He won't run the ball or use quick slants.

I don't think it's really something the NFL has figured out, because teams sucked at it last year and this year our QB is starting his first two games so hardly fair on judging the scheme. I think it's more just that sometimes the QB and/or OLine just aren't good enough and he isn't pivoting to other strategies.

greediron · Yesterday, 05:47 PM

(Yesterday, 05:34 PM)medaille Wrote: I don't think it's really something the NFL has figured out, because teams sucked at it last year and this year our QB is starting his first two games so hardly fair on judging the scheme. I think it's more just that sometimes the QB and/or OLine just aren't good enough and he isn't pivoting to other strategies.

Detroit and LA Rams disagree.