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House of Dysfunction: The Curious Case of Caleb Williams
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(7 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Yeah, can't disagree on Nix's last game and I mentioned it in my 'observations' thread: probably could have had 4 INTs Sunday. But he's played his way into a little latitude from last season. And Denver still won. Silly to wonder over 1 game when he was nails most of last season, but that's what Twitter fanboys do. If Nix plays sketchy and a little inconsistent the next 3 to 4 games, then yes....red flag time probably.

In a vacuum it would be right to give the kid some latitude after a great first year and a bad start in his second. But this fact comes with alarm bells. We've seen this so many times before, where a QB has a great rookie season only to fall back down to earth his second. Mac Jones, Stroud, etc. 

That's the worry I'm hearing among friends and media in Denver right now, especially considering this atrocious performance was against maybe the worst defense in the NFL. Sure, it's week one and weird things happen and you can't take too much away from it. But I think the next few weeks are pivotal for Nix and the Broncos franchise. Meanwhile, the town waits on eggshells.
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(6 hours ago)MaroonBells Wrote: In a vacuum it would be right to give the kid some latitude after a great first year and a bad start in his second. But this fact comes with alarm bells. We've seen this so many times before, where a QB has a great rookie season only to fall back down to earth his second. Mac Jones, Stroud, etc. 

That's the worry I'm hearing among friends and media in Denver right now, especially considering this atrocious performance was against maybe the worst defense in the NFL. Sure, it's week one and weird things happen and you can't take too much away from it. But I think the next few weeks are pivotal for Nix and the Broncos franchise. Meanwhile, the town waits on eggshells.

This is VERY true. And I've said and agreed with this point before and all day long. My only point is its one game. I've personally never bought into Bo Nix fully because I think he's already hit his ceiling. I agree with everything else you say here in 2 more games if he plays like Game 1.
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(6 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: This is VERY true. And I've said and agreed with this point before and all day long. My only point is its one game. I've personally never bought into Bo Nix fully because I think he's already hit his ceiling. I agree with everything else you say here in 2 more games if he plays like Game 1.

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I was always of the mind-set Nix was high floor and lower ceiling...

We'll see I guess...

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(7 hours ago)StickierBuns Wrote: Yeah, can't disagree on Nix's last game and I mentioned it in my 'observations' thread: probably could have had 4 INTs Sunday. But he's played his way into a little latitude from last season. And Denver still won. Silly to wonder over 1 game when he was nails most of last season, but that's what Twitter fanboys do. If Nix plays sketchy and a little inconsistent the next 3 to 4 games, then yes....red flag time probably.

Helps that Surtain allowed exactly 0 yards passing against him week 1.
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#26
I think that a lot of the Caleb Williams push back goes back to when he would sulk at USC coupled with when he suggested that he should get part ownership in the Bears in his rookie contract, kind of like Shadeur(SP?) Sanders. I don't think either of them are bad kids at all but seriously read the room, NOBODY is bigger than the team.
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Easy to see the allure of Caleb after the first scripted drive last Monday night. There is potential to be great inside there someplace. Once again the Bears were the preseason champions with lots of new shiny toys except Caleb. Can't pin all your failings and shortcomings on a coaching staff 2 years in a row. After all, they brought in the top superstar coach in the league!
Greatness is inside Caleb somewhere, but how to get it out?
Perhaps he's one of those who thinks they are working hard when they are hardly working and won't put in the effort. Perhaps he is challenged or unwilling to learn. Or maybe it is just going to take more time. Patience is short in a performance based profession that chews up and spits out QB's left and right.
It's all up to him. He has the ability and skill. He appears to have personal flaws that are potentially sabotaging his career.
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(2 hours ago)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: Easy to see the allure of Caleb after the first scripted drive last Monday night. There is potential to be great inside there someplace. Once again the Bears were the preseason champions with lots of new shiny toys except Caleb. Can't pin all your failings and shortcomings on a coaching staff 2 years in a row. After all, they brought in the top superstar coach in the league!
Greatness is inside Caleb somewhere, but how to get it out?
Perhaps he's one of those who thinks they are working hard when they are hardly working and won't put in the effort. Perhaps he is challenged or unwilling to learn. Or maybe it is just going to take more time. Patience is short in a performance based profession that chews up and spits out QB's left and right.
It's all up to him. He has the ability and skill. He appears to have personal flaws that are potentially sabotaging his career.

He kind of reminds me of a young Jim Plunkett or even Bobby Douglas with a way better arm.   He makes things harder than he has to IMO.   There is NO questioning his physical attributes or athleticism.
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