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“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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Y'know...IF JJM is the young QB we've needed, I can easily get used to offseason reports actually concentrating on our draft picks and camp stars, instead of a dozen QB speculations and rumors every week.
Wishing a great season for the team, Especially Mundt and Kwenkeu! Big Grin
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Very early for this, but its something to read until training camp. Getting any production from unlikely or surprise players is always welcomed.
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Just spitballing here, but I'm curious if the Vikings would consider trading Jalen Nailor if Tai Felton blows up in training camp. 

Of course, I have no reason to believe Felton is capable of that, but if the Vikings think he might be ready for the WR3 role, they might see Nailor as a tradable asset. He's in a contract year and caught 28 balls for 414 yards and 6 TDs last year. With Addison missing a couple games early this year, Nailor could have some really good numbers by the trade deadline. 

Good teams don't often trade good players away mid-season, but if they can convert him into an upgrade elsewhere, they might consider it. They're either going to lose him or pay him next March. That said, I do sorta wonder if the Vikings might be better off paying Nailor since it's going to be a challenge to keep Addison a year later.
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(06-23-2025, 08:09 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Just spitballing here, but I'm curious if the Vikings would consider trading Jalen Nailor if Tai Felton blows up in training camp. 

Of course, I have no reason to believe Felton is capable of that, but if the Vikings think he might be ready for the WR3 role, they might see Nailor as a tradable asset. He's in a contract year and caught 28 balls for 414 yards and 6 TDs last year. With Addison missing a couple games early this year, Nailor could have some really good numbers by the trade deadline. 

Good teams don't often trade good players away mid-season, but if they can convert him into an upgrade elsewhere, they might consider it. They're either going to lose him or pay him next March. That said, I do sorta wonder if the Vikings might be better off paying Nailor since it's going to be a challenge to keep Addison a year later.

I think you keep him,  but most likely the Vikings are going to lose a good WR after cuts.  My guess is Jeshaun Jones made significant strides this offseason and he already flashed last year.  Add in Rondale Moore, Tim Jones,  Silas Brown.   There is some significant depth pieces there.  They could trade someone like Nailor if they were going to give up significant compensation.  At this point I don't think anyone else will.   Tai Felton will most likely take some time.  He is a tad raw still, needs to continue working on his hands, but the athleticism is off the charts.
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(06-23-2025, 08:09 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Just spitballing here, but I'm curious if the Vikings would consider trading Jalen Nailor if Tai Felton blows up in training camp. 

Of course, I have no reason to believe Felton is capable of that, but if the Vikings think he might be ready for the WR3 role, they might see Nailor as a tradable asset. He's in a contract year and caught 28 balls for 414 yards and 6 TDs last year. With Addison missing a couple games early this year, Nailor could have some really good numbers by the trade deadline. 

Good teams don't often trade good players away mid-season, but if they can convert him into an upgrade elsewhere, they might consider it. They're either going to lose him or pay him next March. That said, I do sorta wonder if the Vikings might be better off paying Nailor since it's going to be a challenge to keep Addison a year later.

Nailor & Felton are very different WRs. Nailor can run a route tree. Felton wasn't asked to run downfield at Maryland. His touches were behind or near the LOS & he used his abilities to manufacture YAC. Doesn't mean that he can't develop into a conventional WR, but I wouldn't count on that happening this season.

(06-23-2025, 08:34 AM)Bunsen82 Wrote: I think you keep him,  but most likely the Vikings are going to lose a good WR after cuts.  My guess is Jeshaun Jones made significant strides this offseason and he already flashed last year.  Add in Rondale Moore, Tim Jones,  Silas Brown.   There is some significant depth pieces there.  They could trade someone like Nailor if they were going to give up significant compensation.  At this point I don't think anyone else will.   Tai Felton will most likely take some time.  He is a tad raw still, needs to continue working on his hands, but the athleticism is off the charts.

I question our WR depth. Rondale Moore is currently injured & might very well start the season on PUP. If either Jones or Brown makes the team, their roles will be primarily STs. In 3 seasons with Jax, Jones has only 17 catches, no TDs. His role there was primarily on the coverage units. Bolden is 5'8", 160 pounds. Excellent PR & I see him as making the roster as PR/WR6. But, if you're only going to carry 6 WRs on the roster, a team can't afford to have two who are strictly there to play STs. For that reason, I do think that Jeshaun Jones has a legit chance to make the team.
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Felton - I'll stick with what I learned a while back - that Vikings coaches weren't going to draft him until they verified during pre-draft that he could return kicks. He's a special teamer imho. Space for a young wr to have an impact is extremely limited on this team with the guys in front of him.

Vaughn/Rodgers - if either of these guys can contribute in the secondary it's a definite plus for the weakest part of our roster.

Turner - time to show us why we spent a fortune to draft you kid. Good news is, DE's tend to make their biggest leap from year 1 to 2 historically, at least that's what I heard from some guy at PFF Smile. He'll surely get more snaps with Jones gone and Flores not seeing him as a rookie.

Also, the constant poor-mouthing of Turner compared to Jared Verse is baloney imho. Verse had 4.5 sacks in 834 snaps while Turner had 3 in 300 snaps. If Turner took 834 snaps and maintained his sack rate it would work out to 8.37 sacks, or nearly double that of Verse.
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(06-23-2025, 11:28 AM)comet52 Wrote: Felton - I'll stick with what I learned a while back - that Vikings coaches weren't going to draft him until they verified during pre-draft that he could return kicks.  He's a special teamer imho.  Space for a young wr to have an impact is extremely limited on this team with the guys in front of him.

Vaughn/Rodgers - if either of these guys can contribute in the secondary it's a definite plus for the weakest part of our roster.

Turner - time to show us why we spent a fortune to draft you kid.  Good news is, DE's tend to make their biggest leap from year 1 to 2 historically, at least that's what I heard from some guy at PFF Smile.  He'll surely get more snaps with Jones gone and Flores not seeing him as a rookie. 

Also, the constant poor-mouthing of Turner compared to Jared Verse is baloney imho.  Verse had 4.5 sacks in 834 snaps while Turner had 3 in 300 snaps.  If Turner took 834 snaps and maintained his sack rate it would work out to 8.37 sacks, or nearly double that of Verse.

If Turner and JJM turn into blue chip players? It'll change my perception of our drafting a ton...It'll also mean the difference as to how many NFCCG's we appear in the next 3-5 seasons (or not).
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(06-23-2025, 11:28 AM)comet52 Wrote: Felton - I'll stick with what I learned a while back - that Vikings coaches weren't going to draft him until they verified during pre-draft that he could return kicks.  He's a special teamer imho.  

I don't think you draft a guy in round 3 for only special teams....and its not the main reason why the Viking's got him. He's a speedy diamond in the rough, they'll let him get his feet wet this year and then you're looking at WR3 when Speedy goes. And ideally they'd probably love to see him at WR2. Does he have that upside? Yep. Doesn't mean he'll ever get there. I mean Stefon Diggs was a 5th round WRer draft selection. But Tai is a dawg. I just don't see Minnesota resigning Addison and this is an eye toward that. Felton is a different kind of WRer than Jets and Addison.
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(06-23-2025, 11:39 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: I don't think you draft a guy in round 3 for only special teams....and its not the main reason why the Viking's got him. He's a speedy diamond in the rough, they'll let him get his feet wet this year and then you're looking at WR3 when Speedy goes. And ideally they'd probably love to see him at WR2. Does he have that upside? Yep. Doesn't mean he'll ever get there. I mean Stefon Diggs was a 5th round WRer draft selection. But Tai is a dawg. I just don't see Minnesota resigning Addison and this is an eye toward that. Felton is a different kind of WRer than Jets and Addison.

That was my thought as well. The 3rd round is pretty early for a special teams player. He'll play there at first, but I think it's pretty clear the Vikings drafted him to be a receiver. WR coach Keenan McCardell pounded the table pretty hard for Felton.
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