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I want him to be great and I want to buy his jersey haha, but I'm still not sure. Lots of guys flash and make the leap, others don't.
He and JJ McCarthy are easily the two biggest question marks and to some degree bellwethers for this team. If they both turn out to be good players that will be amazing for this franchise. If they can both do it early-- hooo look out.
HAVING SAID THAT, regarding the, "he's sitting behind a stud, he's great, his time will come!" argument, it's kind of garbage. There's many better ways to defend DT in my opinion. Everyone said the same thing about Alexander Mattison and when the team finally needed him to step up: woof. Cream rises to the top and even stubborn redbleeps like Mike Zimmer couldn't keep Justin Jefferson off the field for long. If Turner can play, we'll know quickly this season.
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Signing two top edge rushers in free agency and then going into the draft with OL, DL and CB as top needs, I have no idea how you trade a 3rd, 4th and 5th to move up to get another edge rusher. It is not so much about the player, but the move, was just an awful pick considering what our needs were and what we gave up. With the extension for Van Ginkel, Turner will not be a starter on this team for some time, you get your rotational guys later in the draft, not with a 1st rounder and 3 additional picks.
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(05-22-2025, 12:01 PM)pattersaur Wrote: I want him to be great and I want to buy his jersey haha, but I'm still not sure. Lots of guys flash and make the leap, others don't.
He and JJ McCarthy are easily the two biggest question marks and to some degree bellwethers for this team. If they both turn out to be good players that will be amazing for this franchise. If they can both do it early-- hooo look out.
HAVING SAID THAT, regarding the, "he's sitting behind a stud, he's great, his time will come!" argument, it's kind of garbage. There's many better ways to defend DT in my opinion. Everyone said the same thing about Alexander Mattison and when the team finally needed him to step up: woof. Cream rises to the top and even stubborn redbleeps like Mike Zimmer couldn't keep Justin Jefferson off the field for long. If Turner can play, we'll know quickly this season.
Yeah, if his best work is supposed to come NEXT year, he's a disappointment. This is his year to show out, bottom line. He's young so I'm hoping that was it and he should come back with 5-10 lbs of muscle mass.
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KAM just finished season three of his regime, and when the t.v. show "Dallas" ended season three it did so with the famous "Who Shot J.R.?" cliffhanger.
I guess the Vikings cliffhanger might be "Who Drafted Dallas Turner?" We'll see how it turns out.
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(05-22-2025, 10:41 AM)JustInTime Wrote: I’m going to take the over and get him into low double digits. 10.5, maybe 3 FF, a couple picks, and dozens of ohmygoddidyouseethat! moments.
Not a chance. If he hits five sacks this year (given that he is spelling Greenard and Van Ginkel), I think that's admirable. Maybe 6.
Having said that, I expect big things out of Greenard and Van Ginkel in their second year in BFlo's defense.
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(05-22-2025, 08:02 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Not a chance. If he hits five sacks this year (given that he is spelling Greenard and Van Ginkel), I think that's admirable. Maybe 6.
Having said that, I expect big things out of Greenard and Van Ginkel in their second year in BFlo's defense.
I’ll take over 6 for $250.
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(05-22-2025, 08:05 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: But honestly, I don't expect a huge year for him in 2025. He'll still be behind (or rotating with) two pro bowlers. I'll say 8 sacks in '25. I think 2026 is when he explodes. Patience is required. Randle didn't have double digit sacks until his 3rd season. After two seasons, Chris Doleman had 3.5 sacks.
Bud Grant always said he saw the biggest advancement in a young player's game was in year 3. Maybe that's going back in time too far, but it's still football. I'll be happy with a few flash plays this year from Turner, especially if they come at the right time (like to kill an opponent's game winning drive).
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(05-22-2025, 09:01 PM)JustInTime Wrote: I’ll take over 6 for $250.
With Turner moving into Patrick Jones role as the top rotational rusher, he should get at least twice as many snaps. Patrick Jones had 8 sacks last year and Dallas Turner is much more talented as a pass rusher.
I'll take the over too.
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(05-22-2025, 08:02 PM)Montana Tom Wrote: Not a chance. If he hits five sacks this year (given that he is spelling Greenard and Van Ginkel), I think that's admirable. Maybe 6.
Having said that, I expect big things out of Greenard and Van Ginkel in their second year in BFlo's defense.
Yeah, let's not forget those two Pro Bowl edges. Gink was actually All Pro and he wasn't even as good as Greenard. Vikings just gave Gink a big extension. If they stay healthy, with added interior pressure from Allen and Hargrave, those two are going to be even better. As will Turner in the Jones role. But anyone who thinks Turner should be considered a bust or disappointment if he doesn't replace one of those two players in the starting lineup this year is being naive.
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I think having 3 legit pass rushers is huge in today's NFL where you can scheme mismatches and get after the QB. I think the Vikings have the top edge group in the NFL. Turner is going to ball out this year in that 3rd role and gives us invaluable depth. I have zero concerns about Dallas Turner.
And if anybody needed a smile put on their face today, refer to the video below..
https://youtu.be/Jm85ctsG3zA?si=VWc6PRa8dEFucOzl
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