Green New Deal

[BigAl99]

Willing participant, look at all that new equipment. Kinda the equivalent of the welfare queen in the Cadillac. They forget the CHIP program was one of the compromises in the farm bill that got them those sweet payments. In Iowa lot of new Farm houses with a CAFO in the lower 40, the smell of profit and success. Kind of morbid humor but you hear of big manure spills being reported and at the end of the story it says "no dead fish". It's because there is no fish population left. That Rastetter guy I mentioned, he was behind the banning of any state monitoring of rivers and creeks by schools run by the Iowa regents.

What you said about your contacts and what Summit pipeline put in the legal application, that used to be fraud,embezzlement, corruption now its just accepted. Price you pay to have your team in office, girls athletics are a much more important social issue.

[JimmyinSD]

Willing participant, look at all that new equipment.  Kinda the equivalent of the welfare queen in the Cadillac.  They forget the CHIP program was one of the compromises in the farm bill that got them those sweet payments. In Iowa lot of new Farm houses with a CAFO in the lower 40, the smell of profit and success.  Kind of morbid humor but you hear of big manure spills being reported and at the end of the story it says "no dead fish".  It's because there is no fish population left.  That Rastetter guy I mentioned, he was behind the banning of any state monitoring of rivers and creeks by schools run by the Iowa regents.

What you said about your contacts and what Summit pipeline put in the legal application, that used to be fraud,embezzlement, corruption now its just accepted. Price you pay to have your team in office, girls athletics are a much more important social issue.

Its interesting you mention monitoring rivers and creeks,  our former governor moved the DENR under the Dept of Ag...if that isnt the fox watching the hen house.

And once again I agree on the farmer thing,  the young farmers roll around like they are smart and successful,  they are lucky sperm,  they inherited their ground and do little more than keep it in the programs they are told to keep it in.  Of course their greed is ruining the land,  tearing out and not replacing trees, tiling and ditching away every drop of water that falls so no potholes are getting refilled.  In debt up to their ass because they cant use old equipment,  gotta keep up with the neighbpr. Its like if somebody wrote a book on what happened in the 30s and its being used like a manual.

[BigAl99]

They hate to hear it, but the American farmer is just the latest victim to the welfare scam.

Just reading that in the new bill there is an addition to the 45Q tax credit that will allow for a "10 million dollar" federal license, which is being said to circumvent local and state laws and regulations, and create a federal eminent domain license. 

Someone once said  'Who doesn’t like a pipeline?'

[JimmyinSD]

Just reading that in the new bill there is an addition to the 45Q tax credit that will allow for a "10 million dollar" federal license, which is being said to circumvent local and state laws and regulations, and create a federal eminent domain license. 

Someone once said  'Who doesn’t like a pipeline?'

I think pipelines are great,  they take semi traffic off our roads and free up rail lines for more perishable cargo and pipelines are generally safer,  however i dont believe that our tax dollars should be building them nor should private land be taken for a for-profit enterprises as has been attempted by those trying to build the summit carbon line and its predecessor navigator.


I also the think the lies and cohersion used by their land agents should be grounds for breaking contracts as well as law suits.

[Waterboy]

I think pipelines are great,  they take semi traffic off our roads and free up rail lines for more perishable cargo and pipelines are generally safer,  however i dont believe that our tax dollars should be building them nor should private land be taken for a for-profit enterprises as has been attempted by those trying to build the summit carbon line and its predecessor navigator.


I also the think the lies and cohersion used by their land agents should be grounds for breaking contracts as well as law suits.

I think pipelines should possibly considered for limited eminent domain, even with some provisions.  They are cost and environmental effective and serve the national interest.  However, I don’t know much about the situation you’re talking about and may well agree with you.

[BigAl99]

I think pipelines are great,  they take semi traffic off our roads and free up rail lines for more perishable cargo and pipelines are generally safer,  however i dont believe that our tax dollars should be building them nor should private land be taken for a for-profit enterprises as has been attempted by those trying to build the summit carbon line and its predecessor navigator.


I also the think the lies and cohersion used by their land agents should be grounds for breaking contracts as well as law suits.

That would be up to your State AG, ours is is no where to be seen on the issue, she's fighting bathroom pronoun issues.

[JimmyinSD]

That would be up to your State AG, ours is is no where to be seen on the issue, she's fighting bathroom pronoun issues.

It will be interesting,  our AG wants to run for governor,  our state has repeatedly and overwhelmingly said no to the carbon pipelines scam,  if he chooses not to get after the feds on this he wont have a chance in hell.

[JimmyinSD]

Just reading that in the new bill there is an addition to the 45Q tax credit that will allow for a "10 million dollar" federal license, which is being said to circumvent local and state laws and regulations, and create a federal eminent domain license. 

Someone once said  'Who doesn’t like a pipeline?'

heard yesterday that Iowa's house/senate have pushed a bill through that takes the eminent domain away from carbon pipelines as well.... maybe our AG will have an ally in fighting the US if the Senate doesnt nuke the BBB, or at least the parts pertaining to E.D. for pipelines.

[BigAl99]

heard yesterday that Iowa's house/senate have pushed a bill through that takes the eminent domain away from carbon pipelines as well.... maybe our AG will have an ally in fighting the US if the Senate doesnt nuke the BBB, or at least the parts pertaining to E.D. for pipelines.

It's sitting on Reynold's desk unsigned, we will see, she is holding meetings with "stakeholders", that would be Rastetter.  It was quite a Senate debate, they, the extreme right wing held her ED budget, till they got the bill passed.  She is not running again so I expect she will create the theater for her replacement and not sign the bill which will also satiate the stakeholder.

[JimmyinSD]

It's sitting on Reynold's desk unsigned, we will see, she is holding meetings with "stakeholders", that would be Rastetter.  It was quite a Senate debate, they, the extreme right wing held her ED budget, till they got the bill passed.  She is not running again so I expect she will create the theater for her replacement and not sign the bill which will also satiate the stakeholder.

whats the pulse of  the people down there on the matter?  up here it went to a public vote and was defeated by over 20%,  but those in office thought it needed to become a law so they got busy and passed it this year and our interm governor signed it.