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#31
With so few picks and most of those in late (not later) rounds, getting 1-2 starters this draft is where I set the bar.

I am no draftnik, but I think I would have taken Harmon over Jackson and Jackson over Zabel or Booker. I've just read too often concerns about Zabel being able to anchor consistently in the NFL and Jackson being a better scheme fit for us vs Booker.

It'll be interesting to see what they do between now and September.

I would put the Vikings as a top 4 NFC team on paper (in April). I think its a team that could punch Philly, Detroit or Washington in the mouth in a street fight.
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#32
(Yesterday, 08:06 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: With so few picks and most of those in late (not later) rounds, getting 1-2 starters this draft is where I set the bar.

I am no draftnik, but I think I would have taken Harmon over Jackson and Jackson over Zabel or Booker.  I've just read too often concerns about Zabel being able to anchor consistently in the NFL and Jackson being a better scheme fit for us vs Booker.

It'll be interesting to see what they do between now and September.

I would put the Vikings as a top 4 NFC team on paper (in April). I think its a team that could punch Philly, Detroit or Washington in the mouth in a street fight.

I’d add the Rams to that list. 

Harmon was my big man crush. He gets to learn from Hayward.
“Hell is empty and all the devils are here”

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#33
(Yesterday, 08:16 AM)JustInTime Wrote: I’d add the Rams to that list. 

Harmon was my big man crush. He gets to learn from Hayward.

I think so as well. If any of those might take a step back this upcoming season, its Washington....but it would be one step back, two steps forward as Jayden Daniels is the real deal. Tough sledding at the top of the NFC, Minnesota needs to hit on McCarthy.
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#34
Agreed re: Rams

(Yesterday, 08:20 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: I think so as well. If any of those might take a step back this upcoming season, its Washington....but it would be one step back, two steps forward as Jayden Daniels is the real deal. Tough sledding at the top of the NFC, Minnesota needs to hit on McCarthy.

The entire eco system collapses w/out that...

No pressure kid!
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#35
(Yesterday, 08:20 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Agreed re: Rams


The entire eco system collapses w/out that...

No pressure kid!

Well we did draft him for this spot. Just rip the band aid off and let's see what he can do. The team was built by Kwesi and KOC to what looks like a friendly situation for a young QB.
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#36
Vikings really stick to picks from their 30 visits

I think that effectively tells you who were high on their lists.

Of 1st rounders you had Derrick Harmon and Donovan Jackson. You then had Savaiinaea (G and T) and Ersery who was taken in the second.

I thought Watts was someone they were interested in but he was not in the 30 visits. Here who was that we picked or signed as UDFA - Ingram-Dawkins, Max Brosmer, Yurosek and Jackson.

The real question is who the Vikings had higher, Jackson or Harmon and my guess is Harmon. Would have been interesting to see what they would have done in that situation. Harmon and then which lineman would they pick in the 3rd or later. Marcus Mbow was on a visit and picked in the 5th. Interesting enough he also plays G and T.

It is interesting that 3 of the player visits were for players who had played both G and T. That appears to be something they were looking at.
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#37
This encapsulates many fans after the Draft in every city. Never satisfied but extremely confident in their ignorance, lol.

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(Yesterday, 09:18 AM)Bunsen82 Wrote: Vikings really stick to picks from their 30 visits

I think that effectively tells you who were high on their lists. 

Of 1st rounders you had Derrick Harmon and Donovan Jackson.  You then had Savaiinaea (G and T) and Ersery who was taken in the second. 

I thought Watts was someone they were interested in but he was not in the 30 visits.  Here who was that we picked or signed as UDFA -  Ingram-Dawkins, Max Brosmer, Yurosek and Jackson. 

The real question is who the Vikings had higher, Jackson or Harmon and my guess is Harmon.  Would have been interesting to see what they would have done in that situation.  Harmon and then which lineman would they pick in the 3rd or later.  Marcus Mbow was on a visit and picked in the 5th.  Interesting enough he also plays G and T. 

It is interesting that 3 of the player visits were for players who had played both G and T.  That appears to be something they were looking at.

I was talking about this with a buddy yesterday through text. I believe it would have been Harmon as well. Mbow was the player we talked about being our 2nd pick if that was the scenario that played out. Versatility at the spot seemed to be a focus. Rightfully so, it is easier to spot and place at the last second or in dire situations.
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(Yesterday, 08:20 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Agreed re: Rams


The entire eco system collapses w/out that...

No pressure kid!

Yes,  he has been given a fully loaded vehicle,  he just needs to drive it.  As long as he can throw the ball (Christian Ponder) -  he appears to have the mental capabilities to understand the offense and the necessary athleticism, poise and intangibles to execute.  At Michigan he appeared to thrive on pressure,  he was in a massive fishbowl that last year and did well.  The fact the team isn't getting any high end back up tells you how comfortable they are with him for now.  Injuries can always pop up though as we know with Bridgewater.  Fingers crossed,  but I really thing we got the ownership, coaches and players to lead us to a Super Bowl win in the next 2-3 years.
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#40
My draft grade: B- overall. B+ given our scarce resources.

I think a good draft you are getting 3 solid starters from. 2 solid starters I feel is par. I think the quality of our draft is pretty limited to how little draft capital we had. I think Jackson is a homerun of a pick. I think he’ll be another Darrisaw that unlocks new levels for our offense. Everything else is just darts that I think are good fits. I think Felton is a poor mans Jaylin Noel. Noel was taken not too far in front of us. We should have traded up to go get him and that would have made this draft into a very good one. Probably would have required next years 3rd, but I think Noel is that much better than Felton. If Felton ends up being the contributor that Nailor isn’t, that would be huge. He’s got the physical traits, but I’m not holding my breath. That said, I trust McCardell to elevate the WRs more than most coaches. A consistent deep threat that safeties have to account for would be huge for our offense. Noel is that. Felton might become that. Howell trade: I don’t know anything about Howell. Kind of feels like a guy that you could just get after the draft without having to waste draft capital on, but people trade a 6th for crappy QBs all the time. I don’t feel confident that we’ve solved the backup QB spot. I feel like we still have to go get a veteran QB and that Howell is a slightly more experienced QB3 with traits KOC likes, but I could be wrong because I know nothing about him.
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