OT: Pre Open Trading Down 1145

[Waterboy]

The all important American consumer will decide much - as they always do.

Hopefully the consumer sentiment these days wont translate to actual behaviors that mirror their outlook.

I think things will look broke til they aint.  Bottom line, look at the trend of the stock market, and also decide if the actions Trump is taking are in support of our prosperity or looking the other way at a known problem.  With that as a foundation and smart people in place, we're in a good spot.

[badgervike]

The real issue, one that the MAGAts try so desperately to wave off, is the sheer diplomatic damage being done by emperor prez cheeto. There is a mounting pile of reasons NOT to trust the USA as any kind of partner for a growing number of countries, and seeing our traitor-in-chief misusing power to fire/investigate anyone that disagrees with him too visibly is nauseating. He's already shown zero interest in due process, which should be a huge sticking point for functional Americans.

How can anyone trust a raging, inconsistent, hypocritical, felon oligarch?

Righhhhhht.  That's the real issue.  lol.

[Zanary]

Righhhhhht.  That's the real issue.  lol.

Oh, the tariffs were handled stupidly, the due process issues should be alarming to anyone paying attention, the "whoops!" rehires show that this junk administration apparently doesn't like reading or research, and that's above and beyond basically pissing on our closest neighbors and many others that have backed us through countless misadventures.

I kinda triple dog dare any of his enablers to deny he's behaving like an oligarch.

[badgervike]

Oh, the tariffs were handled stupidly, the due process issues should be alarming to anyone paying attention, the "whoops!" rehires show that this junk administration apparently doesn't like reading or research, and that's above and beyond basically pissing on our closest neighbors and many others that have backed us through countless misadventures.

I kinda triple dog dare any of his enablers to deny he's behaving like an oligarch.

You didn't seem all that worried that many of these people that entered the US didn't get due process entering the Country either.  Do only illegal immigrants have the rights to ensure due process and adherence to immigration laws?  Shouldn't these people been vetted prior to admittance into the Country?  

You also likely know that the Administration has been winning more than they're losing in the courts.  Do you really want unelected Circuit judges deciding on law for the entire Country?  You may not like that when the political wind changes..

Oligarchy...sounds scary.  I thought he was Hitler or just a Fascist in general?  You guys really need to make up your minds.

No...I don't see the oligarchy angle though kudos for continuing the Russian theme.  Good stuff. I don't see cutting government waste, balancing the budget, reducing crime, creating working class jobs, lowering prices to be the work of an oligarchy...but...you do you.

[Zanary]

You didn't seem all that worried that many of these people that entered the US didn't get due process entering the Country either.  Do only illegal immigrants have the rights to ensure due process and adherence to immigration laws?  Shouldn't these people been vetted prior to admittance into the Country?  

You also likely know that the Administration has been winning more than they're losing in the courts.  Do you really want unelected Circuit judges deciding on law for the entire Country?  You may not like that when the political wind changes..

Oligarchy...sounds scary.  I thought he was Hitler or just a Fascist in general?  You guys really need to make up your minds.

No...I don't see the oligarchy angle though kudos for continuing the Russian theme.  Good stuff. I don't see cutting government waste, balancing the budget, reducing crime, creating working class jobs, lowering prices to be the work of an oligarchy...but...you do you.

Ah, you're being lying filth again, you silly badger!

Did you ask me about that subject, or them? Actually, if you'd read earlier posts, I was vicious on VP Harris repeatedly for her horrible "job" at the border. In fact, I referenced that several times. Again...I lived in New Mexico for over 3 decades, saw the worst of the immigration problems with a front-row seat, and wasn't shy discussing it.

I know, I know, it doesn't fit your fictional agenda, so you "forgot" or simply pretend it didn't happen. Pure redcap deflection, 101! 

So, firing/screaming for the impeachment of all the disagreeing people, using executive orders to investigate critics, eliminating departments while trying to consolidate others under the Executive Branch...well, I'm sure the treasonous drone collective has answers for everything...or, more badly utilized deflection...!

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https://marketrealist.com/p/does-america...oligarchs/

"In a 2016 opinion piece for the Washington Post, columnist Anne Applebaum wrote, “The real problem with Trump isn’t that he is sympathetic to Russian oligarchs, it’s that he is a Russian oligarch, albeit one who happens to be American.”

“He is, rather, an oligarch in the Russian style — a rich man who aspires to combine business with politics and has an entirely cynical and instrumental attitude toward both,” Applebaum wrote."

(it's, um, not just me, liar-boi)

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https://pin.it/3g5yTZ9jd

[Waterboy]

Righhhhhht.  That's the real issue.  lol.

Yep.

[badgervike]

Ah, you're being lying filth again, you silly badger!

Did you ask me about that subject, or them? Actually, if you'd read earlier posts, I was vicious on VP Harris repeatedly for her horrible "job" at the border. In fact, I referenced that several times. Again...I lived in New Mexico for over 3 decades, saw the worst of the immigration problems with a front-row seat, and wasn't shy discussing it.

I know, I know, it doesn't fit your fictional agenda, so you "forgot" or simply pretend it didn't happen. Pure redcap deflection, 101! 

So, firing/screaming for the impeachment of all the disagreeing people, using executive orders to investigate critics, eliminating departments while trying to consolidate others under the Executive Branch...well, I'm sure the treasonous drone collective has answers for everything...or, more badly utilized deflection...!

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https://marketrealist.com/p/does-america...oligarchs/

"In a 2016 opinion piece for the Washington Post, columnist Anne Applebaum wrote, “The real problem with Trump isn’t that he is sympathetic to Russian oligarchs, it’s that he is a Russian oligarch, albeit one who happens to be American.”

“He is, rather, an oligarch in the Russian style — a rich man who aspires to combine business with politics and has an entirely cynical and instrumental attitude toward both,” Applebaum wrote."

(it's, um, not just me, liar-boi)

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https://pin.it/3g5yTZ9jd

Did you really post an opinion piece from the Washington Post to justify your position?  Not even the Bezos owned Wahington Post but the hard core left version..from a hard-core lefty columnist?  Good stuff Z.  You want me to respond with some Alex Jones nonsense?  They also have some good Nazi stuff if you feel a need to post that as your "truth",  Gotta run.  Beautiful day in the Northwoods.  Enjoy your day.

[Zanary]

Did you really post an opinion piece from the Washington Post to justify your position?  Not even the Bezos owned Wahington Post but the hard core left version..from a hard-core lefty columnist?  Good stuff Z.  You want me to respond with some Alex Jones nonsense?  They also have some good Nazi stuff if you feel a need to post that as your "truth",  Gotta run.  Beautiful day in the Northwoods.  Enjoy your day.

You already posted from Breitbart, and you lie about my "positions" with incredible consistency, so...I figure you might have an Alex Jones Fathead taking up most of your living room wall!

Maybe between a white hood (worn by "fine people, beautiful people"?) and a framed "Pledge Of Trumpligiance"? A chalice of sacred Cheeto dust, on a glass case housing holy "Apprentice" DVDs that are prayed to, 5 times per day?

Hey, hyperbole is fun!

[Waterboy]

Did you really post an opinion piece from the Washington Post to justify your position?  Not even the Bezos owned Wahington Post but the hard core left version..from a hard-core lefty columnist?  Good stuff Z.  You want me to respond with some Alex Jones nonsense?  They also have some good Nazi stuff if you feel a need to post that as your "truth",  Gotta run.  Beautiful day in the Northwoods.  Enjoy your day.

Great sources.

[Zanary]

Gosh, it's like our dumpster fire administration wants to keep hiding the truth, and/or circumventing our laws!

SHOCKER!

https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news...-expel-him

"The letter also highlighted potential conflicts of interest in the billions in federal contracts awarded to Musk's SpaceX. The lawmakers expressed their "demand that you stop ignoring federal law and ethics rules to empower an unelected billionaire."

After a prolonged period of evasiveness in February, the White House has finally revealed Elon Musk's role within the federal government. The administration has confirmed that Musk is classified as a "special government employee," which, according to them, exempts him from certain disclosure requirements typically mandated for those in the federal workforce."

Wasn't it Vip's Big Boy, himself, bragging about the transparent nature of DOGE? Of course, that was before the huge errors, rehirings, massive drops in targeted savings....