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Trump threatens to pull federal funds for US schools allowing ‘illegal protests’
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(03-05-2025, 04:13 PM)BigAl99 Wrote: Like transgenic mice?

Halarious they can’t understand the difference between transgenic and transgender.


The Texas one where they’re studying “menstrual cycles of men” is bullshit to. 

Let’s quit the complete nonsense propaganda.
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(03-09-2025, 08:58 PM)AGRforever Wrote: Halarious they can’t understand the difference between transgenic and transgender.


The Texas one where they’re studying “menstrual cycles of men” is bullshit to. 

Let’s quit the complete nonsense propaganda.

Technically, researchers were/are creating transgender mice for research purposes.  It is unknown if a transgender mice model is predictive of human transgender response.

After a quick search, here are a couple examples from Pubmed with citations:

A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses
citation: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36467118/

A mouse model mimicking gender-affirming treatment with pubertal suppression followed by testosterone in transmasculine youth
citation: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36484619/
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(03-07-2025, 04:17 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: ^^^

100% at the bold, and 4 dead in Ohio and BLM have nothing to do with today. If students peacefully protest what they perceive as Anti-semitic, they should be free to do so and not be prosecuted for it.
What if it were white KKK students?  I'm not stating my opinion, just asking this to see the lengths you will go to protect free speech.
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(03-09-2025, 08:58 PM)AGRforever Wrote: Halarious they can’t understand the difference between transgenic and transgender.


The Texas one where they’re studying “menstrual cycles of men” is bullshit to. 

Let’s quit the complete nonsense propaganda.
If you look at those quoted studies transgender, most had to do with hormonal research.  Some examples:
“A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”
"Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes”

If you do a little research, some of these transgender research projects..utilized hormonal transgender research on transgenic altered mice..(I know...mind blowing)

Here's the menstrual study right from the Grant website.  It looks to me more of a nonsense propaganda....to get the grant.  So..I agree with you.  Can we just stop with this nonsense propaganda.

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_N...2035_12H3/

MENARCHE, THE FIRST OCCURRENCE OF MENSTRUATION, OCCURS AT APPROXIMATELY 12 YEARS OF AGE AND ENDS WITH MENOPAUSE AT ROUGHLY 51 YEARS OF AGE (NORMAN, 2014). A WOMAN WILL HAVE A MONTHLY MENSTRUAL CYCLE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS OF HER LIFE AVERAGING TO ABOUT 450 PERIODS OVER THE COURSE OF HER LIFETIME (NAPPI, ET AL, 2016). IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSGENDER MEN AND PEOPLE WITH MASCULINE GENDER IDENTITIES, INTERSEX AND NON-BINARY PERSONS MAY ALSO MENSTRUATE (WEISELBERG 2022). AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT ABOUT 26% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS MENSTRUATING (BARRINGTON ET AL. 2021). THIS INTEGRATED PROJECT INVOLVES RESEARCH, EXTENSION, AND TEACHING COMPONENTS PROPOSED TO ADDRESS THE GROWING CONCERNS AND ISSUES SURROUNDING MENSTRUATION, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS POSED TO USERS OF SYNTHETIC FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS (FHP), ADVANCING RESEARCH IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF FHP THAT USE NATURAL MATERIALS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING MENSTRUAL HYGIENE MANAGEMENT (MHM) EDUCATION FOR YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS.THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES OF THIS PROJECT ARE:A) TO PRODUCE THREE NATURAL FIBERS; REGENERATIVE COTTON, REGENERATIVE WOOL AND INDUSTRIAL HEMP (CANNABIS SATIVA);B) TO DEVELOP PATENTS FOR SUSTAINABLE FEMININE HYGIENE SANITARY PRODUCTS USING THE THREE NATURAL FIBERS;C) TO EVALUATE THE FHP MADE FROM EACH OF THE NATURAL FIBERS IN COMPARISON TO THE STANDARD SYNTHETIC PRODUCT;D) TO EDUCATE YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS ABOUT MHM THROUGH AN EXTENSION PROGRAM;E) TO ENHANCE INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS IN THE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURAL, FAMILY AND CONSUMER SCIENCES ANDF) TO PROVIDE A LOCAL FIBER PROCESSING CENTER FOR FIBER GROWERS IN LOUISIANA.

(03-10-2025, 08:21 AM)Waterboy Wrote: What if it were white KKK students?  I'm not stating my opinion, just asking this to see the lengths you will go to protect free speech.

Everyone has a right to protest peacefully.  Get a permit and do it the right way.  They do not have the right to threaten others or impede public spaces or damage property.

We have protests on campus here in Madison virtually every day for something.  It was Pro-Ukraine, Transgender rights, Save Medicare and Musk bashing last week.
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(03-10-2025, 08:21 AM)Waterboy Wrote: What if it were white KKK students?  I'm not stating my opinion, just asking this to see the lengths you will go to protect free speech.

ITs a great litmus test right? They have a right, as offensive as it is to many. Same with neo-nazis too.
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(03-10-2025, 08:55 AM)badgervike Wrote: If you look at those quoted studies transgender, most had to do with hormonal research.  Some examples:
“A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”
"Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes”

If you do a little research, some of these transgender research projects..utilized hormonal transgender research on transgenic altered mice..(I know...mind blowing)

Here's the menstrual study right from the Grant website.  It looks to me more of a nonsense propaganda....to get the grant.  So..I agree with you.  Can we just stop with this nonsense propaganda. 

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_N...2035_12H3/

MENARCHE, THE FIRST OCCURRENCE OF MENSTRUATION, OCCURS AT APPROXIMATELY 12 YEARS OF AGE AND ENDS WITH MENOPAUSE AT ROUGHLY 51 YEARS OF AGE (NORMAN, 2014). A WOMAN WILL HAVE A MONTHLY MENSTRUAL CYCLE FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS OF HER LIFE AVERAGING TO ABOUT 450 PERIODS OVER THE COURSE OF HER LIFETIME (NAPPI, ET AL, 2016). IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT TRANSGENDER MEN AND PEOPLE WITH MASCULINE GENDER IDENTITIES, INTERSEX AND NON-BINARY PERSONS MAY ALSO MENSTRUATE (WEISELBERG 2022). AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT ABOUT 26% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION IS MENSTRUATING (BARRINGTON ET AL. 2021). THIS INTEGRATED PROJECT INVOLVES RESEARCH, EXTENSION, AND TEACHING COMPONENTS PROPOSED TO ADDRESS THE GROWING CONCERNS AND ISSUES SURROUNDING MENSTRUATION, INCLUDING THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS POSED TO USERS OF SYNTHETIC FEMININE HYGIENE PRODUCTS (FHP), ADVANCING RESEARCH IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF FHP THAT USE NATURAL MATERIALS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING MENSTRUAL HYGIENE MANAGEMENT (MHM) EDUCATION FOR YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS.THE SPECIFIC OBJECTIVES OF THIS PROJECT ARE:A) TO PRODUCE THREE NATURAL FIBERS; REGENERATIVE COTTON, REGENERATIVE WOOL AND INDUSTRIAL HEMP (CANNABIS SATIVA);B) TO DEVELOP PATENTS FOR SUSTAINABLE FEMININE HYGIENE SANITARY PRODUCTS USING THE THREE NATURAL FIBERS;C) TO EVALUATE THE FHP MADE FROM EACH OF THE NATURAL FIBERS IN COMPARISON TO THE STANDARD SYNTHETIC PRODUCT;D) TO EDUCATE YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS ABOUT MHM THROUGH AN EXTENSION PROGRAM;E) TO ENHANCE INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS IN THE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURAL, FAMILY AND CONSUMER SCIENCES ANDF) TO PROVIDE A LOCAL FIBER PROCESSING CENTER FOR FIBER GROWERS IN LOUISIANA.


Everyone has a right to protest peacefully.  Get a permit and do it the right way.  They do not have the right to threaten others or impede public spaces or damage property.

We have protests on campus here in Madison virtually every day for something.  It was Pro-Ukraine, Transgender rights, Save Medicare and Musk bashing last week.

Exactly. Protests are, rightly, protected in this country...when kept civil, and not disrupting the lives of the citizens in the area.

The KKK used to get permits for their sad little marches all the time, in the 80's and 90's. They had been shown to be such a pathetic, hateful, marginalized group that they'd get their 10-12 morons marching down the street and be treated like a carny attraction.

Society was able to show its opinion, and the "cause" dwindled constantly.

The whole point of free speech is to show the better point; the KKK and various Aryan groups were infamously down to dregs in membership, losing leases on their halls, and basically being destroyed by an America that wasn't interested in their s**t.

Social media and echo chambers, sadly, have brought them back into prominence...but only for the people whose minds were already welded shut within their own myopic viewpoints.
Build on 14-3, take back the NFCN, break the ****ing curse. Simple.
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(03-10-2025, 09:51 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: ITs a great litmus test right? They have a right, as offensive as it is to many. Same with neo-nazis too.

Unfortunately, it is.  I support the right to free speech, but if any line is crossed by radical groups in terms of violence, I'm also for a very short leash with strict and severe punishment which then also moves to a gray area.  It'd be a better world if these people just didn't exist, but it's not the way the world works.
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(03-10-2025, 10:31 AM)Waterboy Wrote: Unfortunately, it is.  I support the right to free speech, but if any line is crossed by radical groups in terms of violence, I'm also for a very short leash with strict and severe punishment which then also moves to a gray area.  It'd be a better world if these people just didn't exist, but it's not the way the world works.

Yah, the s hit on the No. West Coast got way out of hand and Mpls called out the Guard too late after Floyd for reasons that are still being argued...

Not everyone agrees, but too far left or right is just bad.
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(03-10-2025, 10:40 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Yah, the s hit on the No. West Coast got way out of hand and Mpls called out the Guard too late after Floyd for reasons that are still being argued...

Not everyone agrees, but too far left or right is just bad.

Both extremes are flaming trash. Sadly, we've found "traitorous, moscow-puppet far right" as a whole new low.

I'm waiting for the traitor-in-chief to insist that his insults against NATO, the current tariff war (that he keeps escalating), the rising grocery prices (which all the tariffs will make worse), and our cratering status in diplomacy with our allies is all "Biden's fault".
Build on 14-3, take back the NFCN, break the ****ing curse. Simple.
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(03-11-2025, 11:09 AM)Zanary Wrote: Both extremes are flaming trash. Sadly, we've found "traitorous, moscow-puppet far right" as a whole new low.

I'm waiting for the traitor-in-chief to insist that his insults against NATO, the current tariff war (that he keeps escalating), the rising grocery prices (which all the tariffs will make worse), and our cratering status in diplomacy with our allies is all "Biden's fault".
Yeah, who needs enemies when you have friends like our "allies".  Pretty good gig for them when they get free defense and the ability to tariff us to death with none on them.   You're right, we should continue down that path.  lol
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