Traitor in Chief Trump Has His Buddy's Back

[Zanary]

He lies to us, he lies about what his agencies "find", and he always lies for his mass murderer bestie.

https://apnews.com/article/un-russia-ukr...3e788c272c

"In the U.N. General Assembly, the U.S. joined Russia in voting against a Europe-backed Ukrainian resolution that calls out Moscow’s aggression and demands an immediate withdrawal of Russian troops.

The U.S. then abstained from voting on its own competing resolution after Europeans. led by France, succeeded in amending it to make clear Russia was the aggressor. The voting was taking place on the third anniversary of Russia’s invasion and as Trump was hosting French President Emmanuel Macron in Washington."

There is, literally, no horrible-enough end terrible for our s**tstain prez. Are his backers/enablers getting paid in furry hats and non-export vodka?

[purplefaithful]

I always get hazy, fog when it comes to Trump and Russia. Its weird at its mildest, eyebrow raising a lot of the time (not talking 2016 election).

But why call for this vote right here and right now? When there are delicate negotiations going on to try and end the suffering?

Stoopid timing for this.

[Zanary]

I always get hazy, fog when it comes to Trump and Russia. Its weird at its mildest, eyebrow raising a lot of the time (not talking 2016 election).

But why call for this vote right here and right now? When there are delicate negotiations going on to try and end the suffering?

Stoopid timing for this.

"Delicate Negotiations" that are between team orange treason and team mass murder/rape...with Ukraine left out, and Trumplestilskin calling Zelesky a "dictator" while obviously enabling the monster from Moscow.

Granted, our prez is human sewage, so expecting him to be aware of history is just...unfair, I guess. As many have pointed out, Britain held off their elections during WWII, as they were directly under fire and needed to prioritize. That's a bit too much for team orange to understand.

[JimmyinSD]

I had thought he looked familiar... but this is the first time it made sense.

[badgervike]

"Delicate Negotiations" that are between team orange treason and team mass murder/rape...with Ukraine left out, and Trumplestilskin calling Zelesky a "dictator" while obviously enabling the monster from Moscow.

Granted, our prez is human sewage, so expecting him to be aware of history is just...unfair, I guess. As many have pointed out, Britain held off their elections during WWII, as they were directly under fire and needed to prioritize. That's a bit too much for team orange to understand.

The schtick never gets old does it Z?  The United Nations feels the need to make the US look bad at every opportunity.  As PF said...the timing of the resolution 3 years after the invasion) and during peace discussions was inappropriate at best.  Why interfere with the first actual discussions on the Ukraine war with Russia.  You constantly harp on Trump for at least engaging with Russia to try to find a solution to this mess.  Again, Crimea was taken under Obama and the wider invasion took place under Biden....but you're really, really angry with Trump.  The time to have dealt with the Ukraine situation was 3 years ago when Russia violated the Crimea peace agreement by invading the Ukraine but the feckless President and the EU did nothing immediately to push back.  This should have been over years ago if Biden and the Europeans did their jobs and responded immediately in force.

Now..we're 3 years later...and the Ukraine is fighting a war of attrition in cannon win despite its valiant efforts.  They'll die a death of 1000 cuts and eventually lose the Country.  So...rather that complain about having discussions with Russia (and Ukraine btw as Zelensky is due in Washington this week or next) about trying to end this conflict, let's instead hope there is a way to end this which is acceptable to both parties.  For the first time in 4 years, the US is taking the lead to end this conflict.  According to Macron, the US and the Europeans are in agreement on a direction with a truce first.  Russia has evidently agreed for the Europeans to install a peace keeping force...likely a few forward bases to prevent any further incursion by Russia in the future.  As Macron said, the US would provide the backstop for the Europeans.

You're position gets a lot of Ukrainians killed.  My friends are all in the Kyiv area....I'd rather keep them alive.  Do all the UN resolutions you want after this is over.

[Zanary]

The schtick never gets old does it Z?  The United Nations feels the need to make the US look bad at every opportunity.  As PF said...the timing of the resolution 3 years after the invasion) and during peace discussions was inappropriate at best.  Why interfere with the first actual discussions on the Ukraine war with Russia.  You constantly harp on Trump for at least engaging with Russia to try to find a solution to this mess.  Again, Crimea was taken under Obama and the wider invasion took place under Biden....but you're really, really angry with Trump.  The time to have dealt with the Ukraine situation was 3 years ago when Russia violated the Crimea peace agreement by invading the Ukraine but the feckless President and the EU did nothing immediately to push back.  This should have been over years ago if Biden and the Europeans did their jobs and responded immediately in force.

Now..we're 3 years later...and the Ukraine is fighting a war of attrition in cannon win despite its valiant efforts.  They'll die a death of 1000 cuts and eventually lose the Country.  So...rather that complain about having discussions with Russia (and Ukraine btw as Zelensky is due in Washington this week or next) about trying to end this conflict, let's instead hope there is a way to end this which is acceptable to both parties.  For the first time in 4 years, the US is taking the lead to end this conflict.  According to Macron, the US and the Europeans are in agreement on a direction with a truce first.  Russia has evidently agreed for the Europeans to install a peace keeping force...likely a few forward bases to prevent any further incursion by Russia in the future.  As Macron said, the US would provide the backstop for the Europeans.

You're position gets a lot of Ukrainians killed.  My friends are all in the Kyiv area....I'd rather keep them alive.  Do all the UN resolutions you want after this is over.

"My position"...I actually wonder if you mean half of what you post, or if you're just trying to defend proven, guileless lying garbage out of some combination of dumbassery and stubbornness?

The UN IS a s**t organization, but widespread, 3-year campaigns of mass murder are worse. What kind of amazes me in the "team orange" defenders is the amount of s**t you continue to try and brush off as inconsequential:

"...ok, yeah, he lies a lot, but..."
"...ok, he overstated every DOGE 'finding', but..."
"...ok, we had to rehire our nuclear arsenal personnel, just a simple mistake!"
"...ok, he treats our allies like s**t and our enemies like bffs, but..."
"...ok, a bunch of his post candidates had sexual assault charges, but..."
"...ok, look, Elon runs DOGE...OOPS, I mean, um, not employed by them, just an advisor..."
"...ok, the 'explain your job' emails were just brilliant, um, wait, they're voluntary..."
"...ok, he has us voting in lock step with Russian, North Korea, Belarus, and others at the UN, but..."

..and that's just RECENT stuff.

To quote 'Dodgeball' - Fuggin' spare me. Just shut it off, it's pathetic.

You whine about "schtick" when I'm pointing out facts and real quotes, which further cements the real "TDS" really exists in the drones/liars that defend this ongoing spray of horror from our treasonous prez. I really hope that orange stuff washes off...eventually.

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[badgervike]

I get it Z. You'd rather have many more dead Ukrainians and eventually no Ukraine at all. Mark me down as opposed to your view point. And Zelensky is out of his mind if he thinks this ends with Ukraine reclaiming Crimea. Despite Ukraine's best effort with European and US assistance, the Ukraine is slowly losing territory and soldiers.

Hopefully, the negotiations can net some or all of the Donbas back in exchange for some form of sanction relief. Frankly, the sanctions have only strengthened Russia's bonds with China, Iran and N. Korea.

[Zanary]

I get it Z.  You'd rather have many more dead Ukrainians and eventually no Ukraine at all.  Mark me down as opposed to your view point.  And Zelensky is out of his mind if he thinks this ends with Ukraine reclaiming Crimea.  Despite Ukraine's best effort with European and US assistance, the Ukraine is slowly losing territory and soldiers. 

Hopefully, the negotiations can net some or all of the Donbas back in exchange for some form of sanction relief.  Frankly, the sanctions have only strengthened Russia's bonds with China, Iran and N. Korea.

Ah, a liar! I didn't say that, so you're determined to be dishonest. On brand. Making up "my position" isn't exactly new.

Tell me...and attempt honesty: do you have any belief, given the last 3 years PLUS the history of maintaining discord/border incidents and public assassinations AND arresting/executing his competition/critics...that Putin's word, whatever he babbles, is worth anything? Seriously?

Don't tell me I want dead Ukrainians, I actively sponsor the exact opposite. That was a guileless, shitty, horrible thing to say to me. I'm not fully surprised, but I did expect a bit better.

The "bonds" are echoed in orange boi's stance in the UN, now. He's voted WITH the most evil regimes on Earth, just to avoid blame for the mass murders/rape he kicked off 3 years ago. Team orange traitor finds new lows...it's kinda amazing.

[JimmyinSD]

Ah, a liar! I didn't say that, so you're determined to be dishonest. On brand. Making up "my position" isn't exactly new.

Tell me...and attempt honesty: do you have any belief, given the last 3 years PLUS the history of maintaining discord/border incidents and public assassinations AND arresting/executing his competition/critics...that Putin's word, whatever he babbles, is worth anything? Seriously?

Don't tell me I want dead Ukrainians, I actively sponsor the exact opposite. That was a guileless, shitty, horrible thing to say to me. I'm not fully surprised, but I did expect a bit better.

The "bonds" are echoed in orange boi's stance in the UN, now. He's voted WITH the most evil regimes on Earth, just to avoid blame for the mass murders/rape he kicked off 3 years ago. Team orange traitor finds new lows...it's kinda amazing.

he didnt need to say it, it is inferred from your comments.  You are so anti trump that you get outraged whenTrump is taking steps to stop the war that is killing Ukrainians.  your outrage says that you would rather have more dead Ukrainians than for Trump to be seen as trying to stop the killing.  Its not his words, its your words.  

Do you actually think that Ukraine can beat Russia?  Even with billions in US aid and weaponry by most all accounts they can not win.  The only hope now to save Ukrainian lives are peace talks.  At this point Ukrainians should be praying for intervention.

[badgervike]

After all the insults you throw at people Z?  That's pretty tame.  A policy of non-engagement ("Don't") has netted a lot of dead soldiers and civilians and will kill a whole lot more if left unresolved.  So..to oppose a peace solution means you support more dead Ukranians.  The Ukraine can't withstand a war of attrition with Russia.  

Here's what Macron said yesterday:

"I think the arrival of President Trump is a game-changer. And I think he has the deterrence capacity of the U.S. to reengage with Russia."

Macron also says he sees the possibility of a truce between Russia and Ukraine in the coming weeks.

"A truce on air, sea and infrastructures," the French president explained. "If it is not respected, it will be the best evidence of the fact that Russia is not serious."

During the truce, Macron suggested there would be negotiations on security guarantees, land, occupied territories and reconstruction.

Sounds pretty reasonable to me.  Btw...speaking of bromances...a lot of that going on between ol' Macaroni and Trump.