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purplefaithful · 02-04-2025, 05:38 PM

Why the Fck does trading JJM come-up in this scenario spewing?

Ridiculous is what it is...

StickierBuns · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 05:03 AM by StickierBuns.)

(02-04-2025, 05:38 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Why the Fck does trading JJM come-up in this scenario spewing?

Ridiculous is what it is...

Superbowl week/radio row, etc. so much filler required to keep the media engine moving. Junk. It takes me about 12 minutes to drive to the gym each morning and national ESPN radio is unlistenable currently, can't even hack 12 minutes.

MaroonBells · Yesterday, 08:54 AM

(02-04-2025, 05:38 PM)purplefaithful Wrote: Why the Fck does trading JJM come-up in this scenario spewing?

Ridiculous is what it is...

Pelissero keeps saying there's never been a precedent for a rookie QB to miss his entire 1st season and then be named the starting QB week 1 of his 2nd season.

I don't know about that but you know what else there's never been a precedent for? A team taking a QB in the top 10--the highest they've ever selected a QB in the franchise's 64 year history--and then trading him before he's taken a meaningful snap.

StickierBuns · Yesterday, 08:57 AM

(Yesterday, 08:54 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Pelissero keeps saying there's never been a precedent for a rookie QB to miss his entire 1st season and then be named the starting QB week 1 of his 2nd season.

I don't know about that but you know what else there's never been a precedent for? A team taking a QB in the top 10--the highest they've ever selected a QB in the franchise's 64 year history--and then trading him before he's taken a meaningful snap.

I don't think Tommy P. is as dialed in with this current regime as he'd like to be. I've seen some interesting opinions from him the last 2 years. And you're exactly right.

pattersaur · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:12 AM by pattersaur.)

(Yesterday, 08:57 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: I don't think Tommy P. is as dialed in with this current regime as he'd like to be. I've seen some interesting opinions from him the last 2 years. And you're exactly right.

Agreed. It reminds me a lot of when Ramona Shelburne was the top Lakers insider for years, because she was friends with the owner, Jeanie Buss. Momo nuked that bridge with a pretty scathing article after Magic Johnson left, and never got a crumb of Laker news again and basically disappeared from TV. Pelissero didn't do anything like that aside from changing jobs, but I'm just saying that people who are dialed in one day might not be the next, and I think that's what's happened here. Wolfson seems to have a better line on things now.

medaille · (This post was last modified: Yesterday, 09:29 AM by medaille.)

Did Pelissero say something extra or are we talking about the Dan Orlovsky thing in this thread?

Looking at the Dan Orlovsky segment, I think it totally makes sense what they are saying from a Browns perspective. Any team that is looking for a QB and can't get it in the draft will likely be calling the Vikings and seeing what we're open to, until we're a little less QB rich. That said, a trade of Garrett for one of our QBs doesn't really make a lot of sense for us and they probably should have mentioned that.

I think the lesson here is if you have a multitude of quality QBs, the trade options will be available for you to recoup your investment in them.

MaroonBells · Yesterday, 09:38 AM

(Yesterday, 09:18 AM)medaille Wrote: Did Pelissero say something extra or are we talking about the Dan Orlovsky thing in this thread?

purplefaithful · Yesterday, 10:17 AM

I could actually see the Vikings/Browns making some kind of deal this off-season.

But it wont be for JJM and it wont be for MG.

It could very well be a tag/trade as part of a deal for Darnold for a CB.

At some point Browns will be transparent about their need to tear it down and start over. It starts with the QB.

Canthony · Yesterday, 10:34 AM

(Yesterday, 10:17 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: I could actually see the Vikings/Browns making some kind of deal this off-season.

But it wont be for JJM and it wont be for MG.

It could very well be a tag/trade as part of a deal for Darnold for a CB.

At some point Browns will be transparent about their need to tear it down and start over. It starts with the QB.

They have the cap space to pull something off. Tag and trade for Darnold could work, if that is what the Browns want to do. I like the CB idea.

medaille · Yesterday, 10:57 AM

(Yesterday, 09:38 AM)MaroonBells Wrote:

There’s nothing controversial with what Pelissero said. He’s not really making much for commitments at all or saying any hot takes. Basically said water is wet.

The Vikings like Darnold. The Vikings like JJM. The Vikings would like to keep Darnold for a certain price. Above that price they wouldn’t keep him. That is just standard offseason speak. Regarding JJM and his experience, the team is probably treating him closer to having ½ a year of experience than a full year of experience. He got a bunch of mental reps, but missed a bunch of physical reps. You probably still want a guy that’s going to push him in the offseason rather than anointing him the uncontested starter, but you don’t want to spend a ton. That’s just being responsible.