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Head coaching hirings
#61
(01-29-2025, 05:22 PM)Canthony Wrote: The Saints kept kicking the can down the road with Brees' contract and its caught up with them. If I were a first time head coach, I would stay clear away from NO. It is a 3 year and fired situation.

I saw people on the NFL subreddit (probably Saints fans), and they were talking about it like, the Saints would be giving the coach assurances that this would be like a 5 year commitment, 2 years to blow it up and then start a 3 year rebuild.  I just don’t see how that can be a given.  Very few teams can commit to a long term vision, after 3 years of sucking, whether it’s their fault or not, that coach is probably getting fired because everything will be stale, the locker room vibes are going to suck because all the players know it’s just a paycheck at that point.  They’ll be ready for a breath of fresh air and bring in a new coach.

If I was a coach that was getting multiple HC interviews, I’d probably just wait it out.  Maybe I’d consider doing it a year at a time.  Something like $20M a year, but only for a year.  Keep my options open.  Maybe if everyone saw me overperforming that job, it would open up other options?  I just don’t know how you would commit to like a 4 year deal or something.
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#62
(01-30-2025, 05:27 AM)StickierBuns Wrote: For whatever reason, the Jacksonville job isn't that enticing....and Coen is a nutbag. He's brutal behind the mic. And although the national media is slobbering all over Aaron Glenn, I don't think its a homerun hire at all. Remains to be seen.

There is a lot of dysfunction in Jacksonville and Khan is kind of bizarre, I think that is why it is not an attractive job. I think Baalke was a deterrent as well.
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#63
I think it was mostly Baalke. Nobody wanted to work with him. I feel like Jacksonville probably isn’t the most desirable spot, but a lot of guys would have given it a go if they felt they would have been given an honest chance.
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(01-30-2025, 10:37 AM)medaille Wrote: I saw people on the NFL subreddit (probably Saints fans), and they were talking about it like, the Saints would be giving the coach assurances that this would be like a 5 year commitment, 2 years to blow it up and then start a 3 year rebuild.  I just don’t see how that can be a given.  Very few teams can commit to a long term vision, after 3 years of sucking, whether it’s their fault or not, that coach is probably getting fired because everything will be stale, the locker room vibes are going to suck because all the players know it’s just a paycheck at that point.  They’ll be ready for a breath of fresh air and bring in a new coach.

If I was a coach that was getting multiple HC interviews, I’d probably just wait it out.  Maybe I’d consider doing it a year at a time.  Something like $20M a year, but only for a year.  Keep my options open.  Maybe if everyone saw me overperforming that job, it would open up other options?  I just don’t know how you would commit to like a 4 year deal or something.

Back in the 70's when anyone hired a coach they would often say "We're on a 5-year plan." I haven't heard that in a long, long time. A lot of owners these days are on a one-year plan - hire a guy, get pissed, fire him after a year. Or 2 or 3 if they feel patient.
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#66
The Lion’s coaching staff is taking a beating this offseason…  Tongue

Lions coaching staff movement for 2025

Lions assistants who left:

The Lions have seen eight assistants exit, and there could be further movement in the coming days.

Offensive coordinator Ben Johnson ⊳ Chicago Bears head coach.

Defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn ⊳ New York Jets head coach.

Defensive line coach Terrell Williams ⊳ New England Patriots defensive coordinator.

Wide receivers coach Antwaan Randle El ⊳ Chicago Bears wide receivers coach/assistant head coach.

Assistant quarterbacks coach J.T. Barrett ⊳ Chicago Bears quarterbacks coach.

Tight ends coach Steve Heiden ⊳ New York Jets offensive line coach.

Assistant defensive line coach Cameron Davis ⊳ TBD.

Pass game coordinator Tanner Engstrand ⊳ New York Jets offensive coordinator.
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#67
(48 minutes ago)Kentis Wrote: The Lion’s coaching staff is taking a beating this offseason…  Tongue

Lions coaching staff movement for 2025

Lions assistants who left:

The Lions have seen eight assistants exit, and there could be further movement in the coming days.

Offensive coordinator Ben Johnson ⊳ Chicago Bears head coach.

Defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn ⊳ New York Jets head coach.

Defensive line coach Terrell Williams ⊳ New England Patriots defensive coordinator.

Wide receivers coach Antwaan Randle El ⊳ Chicago Bears wide receivers coach/assistant head coach.

Assistant quarterbacks coach J.T. Barrett ⊳ Chicago Bears quarterbacks coach.

Tight ends coach Steve Heiden ⊳ New York Jets offensive line coach.

Assistant defensive line coach Cameron Davis ⊳ TBD.

Pass game coordinator Tanner Engstrand ⊳ New York Jets offensive coordinator.

I dont know if I ever recall seeing something that extensive in one off-season.

That's crazy!

You look at the position they were and moved on to and its clearly a promotion each time. 

I dont know what the Lions org could have done to keep some/all theses guys???
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