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hogjowlsjohnny · 01-17-2025, 02:03 PM

(01-17-2025, 12:34 PM)Canthony Wrote: There is a lot to this post. I need a minute to digest it... Flores isn't going anywhere. I think he would have taken the Patriots job and that is about it. Not many teams will take a chance on a guy with open lawsuits. I don't believe he is gone. There is hardly any smoke to that statement.

As to your "KOC and Darnold are not the reason for the season they had" part. I got nothin. No words on that part.

I screwed the end of that post up. What I meant to say was KOC and Darnold wouldn't have had as successful a season without Flores.

medaille · 01-17-2025, 02:30 PM

I think if you replayed this season, but replaced Flores with a league average DC, this is probably a 9-10 win team. If you replaced him with a bottom tier DC, we probably win 6-8 games. This was a pretty good offense, but there weren’t many games where they were carrying the team. Even after all the turnovers our defense caused, the offense was ranked around 10th. The best offenses in the league were 20-30% better than our offense, scoring an extra 8 points per game and an extra 80 yards per game. What made this team successful was pairing a 10ish offense with a top turnover and top scoring defense.

*JimmyinSD* · Yesterday, 09:00 AM

(01-17-2025, 02:30 PM)medaille Wrote: I think if you replayed this season, but replaced Flores with a league average DC, this is probably a 9-10 win team. If you replaced him with a bottom tier DC, we probably win 6-8 games. This was a pretty good offense, but there weren’t many games where they were carrying the team. Even after all the turnovers our defense caused, the offense was ranked around 10th. The best offenses in the league were 20-30% better than our offense, scoring an extra 8 points per game and an extra 80 yards per game. What made this team successful was pairing a 10ish offense with a top turnover and top scoring defense.

Yep, plenty of times the O sputtered and the D stepped up and carried the load until the O got its shit together. Of course there were a lot of instances where the D would allow the opposition to drive the field and score to easily putting undue pressure back on the O, but overall I agree the D was very instrumental in this years success.

Canthony · Yesterday, 12:20 PM

(01-17-2025, 02:03 PM)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: I screwed the end of that post up. What I meant to say was KOC and Darnold wouldn't have had as successful a season without Flores.

I think they both picked up each other throughout the season. The offense played well as a whole, at times struggled, through the season. I wouldn't necessarily say the offense wouldn't be successful without them. We just wouldn't have been a 14 win team, but I think the offense numbers would relatively stay the same.

hogjowlsjohnny · Yesterday, 02:22 PM

(Yesterday, 12:20 PM)Canthony Wrote: I think they both picked up each other throughout the season. The offense played well as a whole, at times struggled, through the season. I wouldn't necessarily say the offense wouldn't be successful without them. We just wouldn't have been a 14 win team, but I think the offense numbers would relatively stay the same.

You are right. They were the most complimentary team they have had in quite awhile. Future looks bright.

Canthony · Yesterday, 02:25 PM

(Yesterday, 02:22 PM)hogjowlsjohnny Wrote: You are right. They were the most complimentary team they have had in quite awhile. Future looks bright.

No doubt. They worked great together. Can't remember, maybe 2009, that we had a team so balanced on both sides.