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#41
This game wasn't just close in terms of the final score. It was close in every other way too...I don't know that I've ever seen a box score like this...

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#42
(10-23-2024, 08:22 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: This game wasn't just close in terms of the final score. It was close in every other way too...I don't know that I've ever seen a box score like this...


Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.
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(10-23-2024, 08:53 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.

Cllick on the tweet. It shows the whole breakdown and it's remarkably close across the board. Both teams were 4/10 on 3rd down conversions.
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(10-23-2024, 09:00 AM)MaroonBells Wrote: Cllick on the tweet. It shows the whole breakdown and it's remarkably close across the board. Both teams were 4/10 on 3rd down conversions.

I hear you, but this game felt Kirk Cousin'esque from Sam. 

Gaudy stats, but the score-board is what matters of course. He missed some key throws, held the ball too long at times and struggles with man coverages. 

Earlier in this thread I quoted some EPA/Play and Total EPA stats and there is some telling gaps between Sam and Goff.

The D contributed to this loss as well, Johnson has pretty much owned Flores the last 4 games they coached each other. In spite of that, we had our chances to win. That's where I get a whiff of Alex Smith/Cousins.
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#45
You can pick one of a dozen plays that would have changed the outcome. Two that I won't soon forget is the fumbles by Goff. One he falls to the ground and he just happens to fall on the ball, what are the chances?
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(10-23-2024, 08:53 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: Games this close statistically are one or two play differences, or the turnovers tell the story....I suspect if we looked a bit deeper at 3rd down conversions etc, there may be a bit more separation in their favor. 

They made the big plays when they had to, the Vikings did not. Some of thats on Sam, I think KOC/Flores too.

The failed two point conversion on our final TD was a major missed play. We needed a better pass from Sam at that spot.
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(10-23-2024, 09:12 AM)purplefaithful Wrote: I hear you, but this game felt Kirk Cousin'esque from Sam. 

Gaudy stats, but the score-board is what matters of course. He missed some key throws, held the ball too long at times and struggles with man coverages. 

Earlier in this thread I quoted some EPA/Play and Total EPA stats and there is some telling gaps between Sam and Goff.

The D contributed to this loss as well, Johnson has pretty much owned Flores the last 4 games they coached each other. In spite of that, we had our chances to win. That's where I get a whiff of Alex Smith/Cousins.

Detroit is a very very good team. We are very good.

*edit- 2 plays that really kept us close were the failed trick punt and the defensive TD.
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