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2024 QB Watch
Quote: @FLVike said:
@CFIAvike said:
@FLVike said:
Stay at 11, turn off your phone, do not trade down, and take Penix if he's there.
To what, sit on the bench for 2 years and then get hurt every season thereafter?

Any QB can get hurt on any play, even your boy got hurt without being touched. We need someone that is not afraid to chuck it up to JJ and we don't have it now so Penix is a good candidate.
Ummmm…. you do realize JJ either finished 1st or 2nd in the NFL in 20+ yard receptions each of his first 3 years with Kirk throwing to him?  Guessing you didn’t. This offense doesn’t lack someone “afraid to chuck it up to JJ”, but keep trying. 

Your boy Penix will be a disaster if he’s forced to start year one.  If Michigan’s defense ate his lunch, a real NFL defense will kill him. He absolutely will not finish a full season
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I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
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Quote: @FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
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Quote: @StickyBun said:
@FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
Hes right,  with the cap savings from Cousins over the next 2 years they could really add a lot of talent to the roster,  but I doubt you find enough available talent in 1 year in FA to create an OL that is among the tops in the league and would make a rookie QB comfortable.  To many moving pieces for that to happen.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
Hes right,  with the cap savings from Cousins over the next 2 years they could really add a lot of talent to the roster,  but I doubt you find enough available talent in 1 year in FA to create an OL that is among the tops in the league and would make a rookie QB comfortable.  To many moving pieces for that to happen.
Not in 2024. If Cousins is not extended by March 13, $28.5M will hit the Vikings' salary cap in '24 in dead money. Cousins' cap number likely comes down if he is extended. Of course, the $28.5M is a one-time hit in 2024 and we would be completely done with Cousins after that, if he is not extended. 
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Quote: @dadevike said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
Hes right,  with the cap savings from Cousins over the next 2 years they could really add a lot of talent to the roster,  but I doubt you find enough available talent in 1 year in FA to create an OL that is among the tops in the league and would make a rookie QB comfortable.  To many moving pieces for that to happen.
Not in 2024. If Cousins is not extended by March 13, $28.5M will hit the Vikings' salary cap in '24 in dead money. Cousins' cap number likely comes down if he is extended. Of course, the $28.5M is a one-time hit in 2024 and we would be completely done with Cousins after that, if he is not extended. 
Yes,  but you arent going to get any quality free agents to sign 1 year deals so any added players deals would be able to be configured to use the cap savings from Kirk in year 2.  And no,  his cap number of 28.5 is not likely to come down with an extension unless the fuck around and push that money out past his playing time,  which how we got into this stupid situation in the first place.  Dumb as hell that they let it get to this point.  
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I'm going to say this just one time. And you already know what I would do. If Cousins really wants to stay here and if he really wants a chance to go to the Superbowl then he would be content with being extremely overpaid the last 6 years and tell management that he will play the next two years for 5 million a season so that they can build a better team with a chance to go to the Superbowl.
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Quote: @FLVike said:
I'm going to say this just one time. And you already know what I would do. If Cousins really wants to stay here and if he really wants a chance to go to the Superbowl then he would be content with being extremely overpaid the last 6 years and tell management that he will play the next two years for 5 million a season so that they can build a better team with a chance to go to the Superbowl.
It's the same thing we heard last offseason when they weren't able to come to an agreement on an extension, "Kirk is happy in Minnesota, wants to stay in Minnesota, and will take less money to stay in Minnesota." So we'll see if that's reality this offseason because it sure wasn't last offseason. I'll believe it when I see it 
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@dadevike said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
Hes right,  with the cap savings from Cousins over the next 2 years they could really add a lot of talent to the roster,  but I doubt you find enough available talent in 1 year in FA to create an OL that is among the tops in the league and would make a rookie QB comfortable.  To many moving pieces for that to happen.
Not in 2024. If Cousins is not extended by March 13, $28.5M will hit the Vikings' salary cap in '24 in dead money. Cousins' cap number likely comes down if he is extended. Of course, the $28.5M is a one-time hit in 2024 and we would be completely done with Cousins after that, if he is not extended. 
Yes,  but you arent going to get any quality free agents to sign 1 year deals so any added players deals would be able to be configured to use the cap savings from Kirk in year 2.  And no,  his cap number of 28.5 is not likely to come down with an extension unless the fuck around and push that money out past his playing time,  which how we got into this stupid situation in the first place.  Dumb as hell that they let it get to this point.  
That's not how the cap works. You can push money paid this year to have a bigger cap hit next year where you have a lot more cap space. Everyone does it all the time. So yes, you can sign relevant FAs for more than one year with our current cap situation. And I strongly suspect that if we re-sign KC, his cap number for 2024 will go down. You can call it fuck around if you like but all 32 teams are fucking around. The cap situation now is actually pretty good. Your criticism is better directed at years past.
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Quote: @dadevike said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@dadevike said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@StickyBun said:
@FLVike said:
I think with the 35 million saved from Cousins we will be active in FA and get oline good enough to give a rookie ample time to chuck it downfield.
I'll have what he's smoking.
Hes right,  with the cap savings from Cousins over the next 2 years they could really add a lot of talent to the roster,  but I doubt you find enough available talent in 1 year in FA to create an OL that is among the tops in the league and would make a rookie QB comfortable.  To many moving pieces for that to happen.
Not in 2024. If Cousins is not extended by March 13, $28.5M will hit the Vikings' salary cap in '24 in dead money. Cousins' cap number likely comes down if he is extended. Of course, the $28.5M is a one-time hit in 2024 and we would be completely done with Cousins after that, if he is not extended. 
Yes,  but you arent going to get any quality free agents to sign 1 year deals so any added players deals would be able to be configured to use the cap savings from Kirk in year 2.  And no,  his cap number of 28.5 is not likely to come down with an extension unless the fuck around and push that money out past his playing time,  which how we got into this stupid situation in the first place.  Dumb as hell that they let it get to this point.  
That's not how the cap works. You can push money paid this year to have a bigger cap hit next year where you have a lot more cap space. Everyone does it all the time. So yes, you can sign relevant FAs for more than one year with our current cap situation. And I strongly suspect that if we re-sign KC, his cap number for 2024 will go down. You can call it fuck around if you like but all 32 teams are fucking around. The cap situation now is actually pretty good. Your criticism is better directed at years past.
This. But some are stubborn in understanding this concept. 
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