Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
I love how a lot of the media are calling these murdering, raping, kidnapping pieces of shit militants... they are fucking terrorists.
They will do their best to make the terrorists look good. Cuz, that's the way we report the news nowadays, and it's the indefensible positions which are defended by brain dead voters and politicians.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
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@ AGRforever said:
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@ Vanguard83 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
dont worry, Uncle Sam is waiting patiently with check book in hand and our sons and daughters on stand-bye.
F that.
Uncle Sam should have his “deposit slips” ready.
”OK, that was 500 Tomahawks, and how many F-16s? and if you act now, we will throw in a dozen Stinger missiles for free” and our kids should be directing fire from from an air conditioned room in Arizona or NM
Ah, good ‘ol justifying killing in the name of religion.
Mankind is a HUGE disappointment
I know isolationism is not going to fly in todays global society/market, but damn, at what point do we look at our bank account and the situation in our own country and say, sorry, I just dont have it today? I know its terrible what is happening to the civilians and innocents, but those things are happening every day all over the world, what makes it our problem when it happens in the Ukraine and in Israel? Places where it was happening long before we were a country, and will likely still be happening long after we are gone. I used to think we could help make a difference, but I just dont see it, American blood and money thrown at foreign problems rarely changes anything long term anymore.
Winner winner chicken fucking dinner. I'm tired of paying for everyone else's wars. It's why I've been a strict isolationist for north of a decade now. Bring every troop, everywhere home now. Invest in our country. Invest in our youth. Pay down the credit card so that we don't go bankrupt.
It sounds good.....but....you act like if we do this, that's where the funds will go: investing in our country. They almost assuredly wouldn't. Our politicians would jam it down some other corporate rabbit hole that wouldn't benefit U.S. citizens one iota. This country is run by corporations now, they are 'people'....the supreme court decided that the 14th amendment made it so and it started to become a real legal concept. Corporate Personhood. This gives them unbelievable rights. And they took all the manufacturing jobs to China, gutting our nation. China's economy “opened up” in December 1978 and the timing couldn't have been better. At the time, U.S., Japanese, and European companies were looking for new locations to manufacture their goods cheaply after wages rose in East Asian countries like Hong Kong, South Korea, and Taiwan.
Corporations won't allow for isolationism. We are truly in a global economy and there's no looking back. They are the ones to looked toward for the reason of our problems and how the politicians are in their pocket. Corporate gains go into their coffers, corporate losses are bankrolled by taxpayers.
I feel that way, but I dont feel that the situation isn't repairable, but things need to change internally, people need to wake up and realize that the tribalization that is taking place in America is by design, the smaller the group the easier we are to control. We need to say fuck that noise and quit allowing ourselves to be pigeon holed and be Americans once again.
We have been sold a bullshit line that all our individualisms are under attack, but its not from other individuals that we need to fear, its the global corporate and socialist/communist agenda that the media is pushing.
People are being led to believe that conservatives hate all minorities and liberals are all about killing babies and giving away our country. Its a lie, but its the one that's being propagated daily and has been getting louder for decades now.
Our countries creators revolted over a small tax by the royalty, but we are one of the highest taxed nations on earth and are losing our control more every minute.
The situation is definitely NOT reparable....outside a revolution. What's going to change? Are you going to change it? Me? Fuck no. I just have opinions while living in my expensive house near the water in Florida. I got mine and I'm going to fuck anyone up that tries to take it. Not an ideal stance for transformative change to those that need it. Not idealistic. But I know the game and it's rigged. You think voting is going to change a damn thing? LMAO.
Help those that you can, keep your scope narrow and local. There's plenty there to do. Big picture you can't do a damn thing. Reach out and assist those within your reach. That's a big deal. The rest is just Greta Thunberg resting bitch face.
just curious, why do you say voting cant change the problem?
Who are you going to vote for that's going to change anything? Trump was going to 'drain the swamp', right? All candidates become the same person, just different financial levers. You understand the President doesn't move the needle for everyday person, right? So tell me, what are YOU going to do? I admit that I'm not going to do a damn thing except horde my money like a fucking squirrel in October burying nuts. I've got an opinion but if I give that in one hand or shit in the other, what fills up quicker?
Only true believers in fantasy think you can put murderers on level ground with law enforcement and not incite more violence. In this case, it's terrorists against the Mideast's only democracy, but you get the point.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
dont worry, Uncle Sam is waiting patiently with check book in hand and our sons and daughters on stand-bye.
F that.
Uncle Sam should have his “deposit slips” ready.
”OK, that was 500 Tomahawks, and how many F-16s? and if you act now, we will throw in a dozen Stinger missiles for free” and our kids should be directing fire from from an air conditioned room in Arizona or NM
Ah, good ‘ol justifying killing in the name of religion.
Mankind is a HUGE disappointment
I know isolationism is not going to fly in todays global society/market, but damn, at what point do we look at our bank account and the situation in our own country and say, sorry, I just dont have it today? I know its terrible what is happening to the civilians and innocents, but those things are happening every day all over the world, what makes it our problem when it happens in the Ukraine and in Israel? Places where it was happening long before we were a country, and will likely still be happening long after we are gone. I used to think we could help make a difference, but I just dont see it, American blood and money thrown at foreign problems rarely changes anything long term anymore.
Winner winner chicken fucking dinner. I'm tired of paying for everyone else's wars. It's why I've been a strict isolationist for north of a decade now. Bring every troop, everywhere home now. Invest in our country. Invest in our youth. Pay down the credit card so that we don't go bankrupt.
It sounds good.....but....you act like if we do this, that's where the funds will go: investing in our country. They almost assuredly wouldn't. Our politicians would jam it down some other corporate rabbit hole that wouldn't benefit U.S. citizens one iota. This country is run by corporations now, they are 'people'....the supreme court decided that the 14th amendment made it so and it started to become a real legal concept. Corporate Personhood. This gives them unbelievable rights. And they took all the manufacturing jobs to China, gutting our nation. China's economy “opened up” in December 1978 and the timing couldn't have been better. At the time, U.S., Japanese, and European companies were looking for new locations to manufacture their goods cheaply after wages rose in East Asian countries like Hong Kong, South Korea, and Taiwan.
Corporations won't allow for isolationism. We are truly in a global economy and there's no looking back. They are the ones to looked toward for the reason of our problems and how the politicians are in their pocket. Corporate gains go into their coffers, corporate losses are bankrolled by taxpayers.
I feel that way, but I dont feel that the situation isn't repairable, but things need to change internally, people need to wake up and realize that the tribalization that is taking place in America is by design, the smaller the group the easier we are to control. We need to say fuck that noise and quit allowing ourselves to be pigeon holed and be Americans once again.
We have been sold a bullshit line that all our individualisms are under attack, but its not from other individuals that we need to fear, its the global corporate and socialist/communist agenda that the media is pushing.
People are being led to believe that conservatives hate all minorities and liberals are all about killing babies and giving away our country. Its a lie, but its the one that's being propagated daily and has been getting louder for decades now.
Our countries creators revolted over a small tax by the royalty, but we are one of the highest taxed nations on earth and are losing our control more every minute.
The situation is definitely NOT reparable....outside a revolution. What's going to change? Are you going to change it? Me? Fuck no. I just have opinions while living in my expensive house near the water in Florida. I got mine and I'm going to fuck anyone up that tries to take it. Not an ideal stance for transformative change to those that need it. Not idealistic. But I know the game and it's rigged. You think voting is going to change a damn thing? LMAO.
Help those that you can, keep your scope narrow and local. There's plenty there to do. Big picture you can't do a damn thing. Reach out and assist those within your reach. That's a big deal. The rest is just Greta Thunberg resting bitch face.
just curious, why do you say voting cant change the problem?
Who are you going to vote for that's going to change anything? Trump was going to 'drain the swamp', right? All candidates become the same person, just different financial levers. You understand the President doesn't move the needle for everyday person, right? So tell me, what are YOU going to do? I admit that I'm not going to do a damn thing except horde my money like a fucking squirrel in October burying nuts. I've got an opinion but if I give that in one hand or shit in the other, what fills up quicker?
I am not saying its going to be easy or overnight, but there will be opportunities to send messages and the more frequent and louder that message is sent the better it will be for our future. starting with voting out incumbents that have shown they arent working for their constituents is a place to start. We make it to easy for outside influences to control our govt by continually sending back the same puppets that they have already bought and paid for. I dont hold a lot of hope that it comes to fruition, basically due to apathy or general greed ( as long as somebody is getting something they dont deserve from the govt, why would they want somebody new in office?) but I can hope that at some point we Americans can take back our country in an effort to leave our next generations something better. I cant imagine what WWII vets returning from Europe and Asia would say / do if they were to come home to this shit show today.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ Vanguard83 said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
dont worry, Uncle Sam is waiting patiently with check book in hand and our sons and daughters on stand-bye.
F that.
Uncle Sam should have his “deposit slips” ready.
”OK, that was 500 Tomahawks, and how many F-16s? and if you act now, we will throw in a dozen Stinger missiles for free” and our kids should be directing fire from from an air conditioned room in Arizona or NM
Ah, good ‘ol justifying killing in the name of religion.
Mankind is a HUGE disappointment
I know isolationism is not going to fly in todays global society/market, but damn, at what point do we look at our bank account and the situation in our own country and say, sorry, I just dont have it today? I know its terrible what is happening to the civilians and innocents, but those things are happening every day all over the world, what makes it our problem when it happens in the Ukraine and in Israel? Places where it was happening long before we were a country, and will likely still be happening long after we are gone. I used to think we could help make a difference, but I just dont see it, American blood and money thrown at foreign problems rarely changes anything long term anymore.
Winner winner chicken fucking dinner. I'm tired of paying for everyone else's wars. It's why I've been a strict isolationist for north of a decade now. Bring every troop, everywhere home now. Invest in our country. Invest in our youth. Pay down the credit card so that we don't go bankrupt.
It sounds good.....but....you act like if we do this, that's where the funds will go: investing in our country. They almost assuredly wouldn't. Our politicians would jam it down some other corporate rabbit hole that wouldn't benefit U.S. citizens one iota. This country is run by corporations now, they are 'people'....the supreme court decided that the 14th amendment made it so and it started to become a real legal concept. Corporate Personhood. This gives them unbelievable rights. And they took all the manufacturing jobs to China, gutting our nation. China's economy “opened up” in December 1978 and the timing couldn't have been better. At the time, U.S., Japanese, and European companies were looking for new locations to manufacture their goods cheaply after wages rose in East Asian countries like Hong Kong, South Korea, and Taiwan.
Corporations won't allow for isolationism. We are truly in a global economy and there's no looking back. They are the ones to looked toward for the reason of our problems and how the politicians are in their pocket. Corporate gains go into their coffers, corporate losses are bankrolled by taxpayers.
I feel that way, but I dont feel that the situation isn't repairable, but things need to change internally, people need to wake up and realize that the tribalization that is taking place in America is by design, the smaller the group the easier we are to control. We need to say fuck that noise and quit allowing ourselves to be pigeon holed and be Americans once again.
We have been sold a bullshit line that all our individualisms are under attack, but its not from other individuals that we need to fear, its the global corporate and socialist/communist agenda that the media is pushing.
People are being led to believe that conservatives hate all minorities and liberals are all about killing babies and giving away our country. Its a lie, but its the one that's being propagated daily and has been getting louder for decades now.
Our countries creators revolted over a small tax by the royalty, but we are one of the highest taxed nations on earth and are losing our control more every minute.
The situation is definitely NOT reparable....outside a revolution. What's going to change? Are you going to change it? Me? Fuck no. I just have opinions while living in my expensive house near the water in Florida. I got mine and I'm going to fuck anyone up that tries to take it. Not an ideal stance for transformative change to those that need it. Not idealistic. But I know the game and it's rigged. You think voting is going to change a damn thing? LMAO.
Help those that you can, keep your scope narrow and local. There's plenty there to do. Big picture you can't do a damn thing. Reach out and assist those within your reach. That's a big deal. The rest is just Greta Thunberg resting bitch face.
just curious, why do you say voting cant change the problem?
Who are you going to vote for that's going to change anything? Trump was going to 'drain the swamp', right? All candidates become the same person, just different financial levers. You understand the President doesn't move the needle for everyday person, right? So tell me, what are YOU going to do? I admit that I'm not going to do a damn thing except horde my money like a fucking squirrel in October burying nuts. I've got an opinion but if I give that in one hand or shit in the other, what fills up quicker?
I am not saying its going to be easy or overnight, but there will be opportunities to send messages and the more frequent and louder that message is sent the better it will be for our future. starting with voting out incumbents that have shown they arent working for their constituents is a place to start. We make it to easy for outside influences to control our govt by continually sending back the same puppets that they have already bought and paid for. I dont hold a lot of hope that it comes to fruition, basically due to apathy or general greed ( as long as somebody is getting something they dont deserve from the govt, why would they want somebody new in office?) but I can hope that at some point we Americans can take back our country in an effort to leave our next generations something better. I cant imagine what WWII vets returning from Europe and Asia would say / do if they were to come home to this shit show today.
Hope springs eternal. Cheers to some kind of change that is helpful.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
The Palestinians have to have a home-land of their own.
Will never happen with Netanyahu in power
This could quickly spread to Israeli/Iran war - and it'll get even nastier (and higher stake).
As long as Israel maintains its apartheid it will never have
peace.
In other news Lindsey Graham, in some Alex Jones style
rants, has already advocated for starting war with Iran and genociding the
Palestinians, so it’s exciting that cooler heads are prevailing.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Like I said, its complicated:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/opinions/...index.html
I wonder what the dynamic is that they live with hamas. Is it like a neighborhood gang that you don't rat out? Does Israel leave them alone as long as hamas isn't pulling shit, or is Isreal always fucking with them? I know they don't like each other much, but is it perpetual fear and hatred, or is it more easy going until something stirs shit up.
In this instance it certainly seems Hamas was the instigator, but is that really the case? Regardless, the tactics that hamas has used should bring holy hell in retaliation, its just sad that they hide among civilian targets, getting their own people killed and won't fight like men. Imo this isnt about fighting for their people or land, its just about killing jews, regardless of the outcome.
Massive failures in Israel on this...Credible reports say Egypt warned them days in advance.
This is their 911.
The real war hasn't even started yet - Gaza is about to be invaded.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
Massive failures in Israel on this...Credible reports say Egypt warned them days in advance.
This is their 911.
The real war hasn't even started yet - Gaza is about to be invaded.
Hamas played the long game on this and Israel got complacent. Remember, the enemy is right next door. And they hate each other. And its not just Hamas, its Hezbollah as well: two organized terrorist organizations that are constantly looking for a way to kill Jews....as their families have been killed by Israelis.
There will never be a resolution. Too many generations killed.
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