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Quote: @Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
I think you are spot on here. That is my gut feeling.
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Quote: @Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
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Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
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Quote: @Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!

That's a good evaluation but I think it is very probable that he will be there in round two. We just need to maneuver to get him.
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Quote: @TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
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Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million. 
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One player that will be highly spoken about is G. Dexter from Florida. I seriously doubt he will make it to our 3rd round pick but you never know.
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Quote: @TBro said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million. 
When they decided to let Cousins play out his contract instead of extending him again, it seemed to me, they didn't feel they could field a championship caliber team without the benefit of a QB on a rookie contract. They are cap strapped and draft capital poor.
Unfortunate for Cousins who has played well, but never had the team around him to go the distance. It was always rumored, Shanahan wanted him in SF; and in reality, they had the team where he may have had a lot more success. Look what Purdy, and even Jimmy G did. Would they have done as well as Cousins if they were in Minnesota?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins after this year. Their competitive rebuild will be given a jump start once they are out from under the expensive QB salary.
 
The previous regime tried their best, but left the current front office in a tough spot. To no fault of his own, bringing in Cousins, wasn't the final piece of the puzzle. Now it's time to pay up.

If he wins the Superbowl, he's worth $50 million. If not, he's gone.


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Quote: @jargomcfargo said:
@TBro said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@TBro said:
@purplefaithful said:
@JimmyinSD said:
@Havoc1649 said:
I’ve finished my review of potential QB’s I would take in round 1.

Only 1 emerged at our selection for me and that is Hendon Hooker. I wouldn’t touch Levis - the risk is too high. Tape on Hooker screams 1st round pick, but he’s recovering from injury and a little older. The Vikings will get the perfect guy for the future with Hooker!
After reading someone's run down of teams likely looking at QB yesterday it seems unlikely that we can stay at 23 and get Hooker.  I too liked a lot about his game,  but I would have liked to see him look off the safeties more,  he seems to have his target predetermined on many throws and will often lock on early.   Also suggests that he didn't work through progressions very often.  My biggest concern on Hooker is he just a good athlete in a QB friendly system.
Agreed, I dont think he drops to 23, which is kinda crazy imo. 

It'll be interesting to see how/if this team deals with QB this year. 
I have a question that I don't see others brining up. Let's say we draft Hooker, or someone like DTR in the 3rd/4th, why couldn't we tag Cousins for a year if the QB we take isn't quite ready? I know Kirk could refuse to sign, but he really wouldn't have any leverage. Does the limit of 4 tags on a player apply to Cousin's since he was with the Redskins? Does it carry over wherever he plays?
I believe I read that it does follow the player.
I dug a little deeper. You are correct. The third tag on Cousins would cost the Vikings over $50 Million. 
When they decided to let Cousins play out his contract instead of extending him again, it seemed to me, they didn't feel they could field a championship caliber team without the benefit of a QB on a rookie contract. They are cap strapped and draft capital poor.
Unfortunate for Cousins who has played well, but never had the team around him to go the distance. It was always rumored, Shanahan wanted him in SF; and in reality, they had the team where he may have had a lot more success. Look what Purdy, and even Jimmy G did. Would they have done as well as Cousins if they were in Minnesota?
The Vikings are moving on from Cousins after this year. Their competitive rebuild will be given a jump start once they are out from under the expensive QB salary.
 
The previous regime tried their best, but left the current front office in a tough spot. To no fault of his own, bringing in Cousins, wasn't the final piece of the puzzle. Now it's time to pay up.

If he wins the Superbowl, he's worth $50 million. If not, he's gone.


Agree with most everything except the 50 million part,  until the cap is over 300M I don't see even 45 million a year for any player, even QB being sustainable.  Sure you would likely be more willing to play kick the can for the right special player,   but you will he doing it at the expense of future success and possibly the quality of other positions,  which is how we got to where we are now.
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