NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
Quote: @minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligence and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Yes, this would be great timing to draft a QB (again due diligence) with a solid veteran in place for at least a year.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Thats an unrealistic expectation imo - especially with QB's.
I dont know what the intentions of the Vikings were with Fields within their grasp, but I dont think anyone saw the Bears getting that bold and moving up to get em.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Thats an unrealistic expectation imo - especially with QB's.
I dont know what the intentions of the Vikings were with Fields within their grasp, but I dont think anyone saw the Bears getting that bold and moving up to get em.
Agree, so if we have done our own razor sharp analysis (which is all you have control over) you have to carpe diem and move up and get your guy. If we think Hooker or a falling Levi is the guy then we are going to have move off 23 instead of wishful thinking.
(I was one of the very few during the Fields draft that vocalized a move up for him if he fell down which he did, oh well we passed then, but I think this year is the perfect scenario to take the shot and sit behind Kirk for a year)
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Thats an unrealistic expectation imo - especially with QB's.
I dont know what the intentions of the Vikings were with Fields within their grasp, but I dont think anyone saw the Bears getting that bold and moving up to get em.
You don't think we dodged a bullet there? You regret not moving up for Fields?
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ minny65 said:
@ purplefaithful said:
NO WAY Levis drops to 23...
That would be reminiscent of Rogers.
No, I dont think Levis has that upside, but it would still be rather DeJa Vu.
Even if Levis falls out of the top 10 there is a gauntlet of teams that would grab him way before 23. I think we need to move up to the Jets(13) or Patriots(14) picks because the Pack are at 15 and then Washington who would love Levis at 16. I would think the Lions at 18 would draft him. Then the Buccs at 19 would take him. Seattle at 20 if they didn't take a QB at 5 would also be a team to draft Levis. No way he falls to 23. We would need to move up into that 13/14 pick range so about 10 spots.
The same goes for Herndon Hooker .... "IF" we do our due diligance and find him first round worthy and Levis is gone then we have to consider that same gauntlet of QB needy teams - IMO!
We all say "no way" but as PF reminds us, Aaron Rodgers fell. He was considered neck and neck with Alex Smith all the way up to draft day. Smith went 1st and Rodgers fell all the way to 24, mostly due to teams filling other needs, but also because of previous failures of QBs who played in the same system as Rodgers at Cal...and rumors of arrogance and entitlement. OK, those proved accurate. :-)
Do I think Levis falls to 23? No, I wouldn't bet on it. But never say never.
But I don't want to rely on Levi or even Hooker falling to 23. If we do our due diligence and think Levi or Hooker are first round talent, then we will need to act on that and not just "hope" they fall to 23 - IMO.
The other side of the argument is that the Vikings aren't desperate for a QB. They already have a good one. Sure, we all want the QBOTF in the pipeline, and we all know if you wait until you ARE desperate, and end up reaching, bad things can happen (Ponder). Hopefully the Vikings intel on other teams' intentions is razor sharp.
Thats an unrealistic expectation imo - especially with QB's.
I dont know what the intentions of the Vikings were with Fields within their grasp, but I dont think anyone saw the Bears getting that bold and moving up to get em.
You don't think we dodged a bullet there? You regret not moving up for Fields?
Jury is still out, right?
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