Quote: @mgobluevikes said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ dadevike said:
@ purplefaithful said:
On Monday, Keith Sanchez of The Draft Network released his latest mock draft, in which he helped the Vikings out by having them select Minnesota Gophers center, John Michael Schmitz.
“John Michael Schmitz was one of the biggest risers after the Senior Bowl and the Vikings desperately need a versatile interior offensive lineman to upgrade that position. The Vikings need to add an element of toughness to their offense to be able to impose their will running the football. Schmitz should help them do both things.”
While not a splashy pick, this would definitely fill a need for the Vikings and give them stability at the center position for the next decade or more. Schmitz has incredible strength and is a technician with his hands and footwork. He should thrive wherever he is picked.
It’s also noteworthy that Schmitz’s agent is former Vikings offensive lineman Jeremiah Sirles.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-draft-network-sends-gophers-center-to-the-vikings-in-latest-mock-draft/ar-AA17JuSD?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1fe72b95dabe481e9a4eed67b9e99f6f
I would really hate that pick. I will bet that the history of first round centers is bleak to awful. I wonder if anyone would like this pick if the player had not played his college ball in Minnesota. Nothing against Schmitz; I saw him at the Senior Bowl practices. He's very good. But he's a Center. Hard pass for me.
He's got a lot in common with Bradbury. Both outside zone centers, identical in size, reach blocking specialists. But this is what I call the "green grass" period, where every draft pick and everyone else's free agents are better than the ones we've already got.
To me there are some pretty easy decisions to make on the roster, but Bradbury isn't one of them. This one's all about the money. I don't want to spend a ton of money on him and I absolutely don't want to commit to him long-term. But the LAST thing we need is a downgrade at the position, which is pretty easy to do if we're not careful.
Not exactly identical in size. Schmitz outweighs Brabury by 20 lbs and an inch taller.
Any thoughts on your guy Mazi Smith? Have seen some different rankings on him. GBN just updated their big board and have him ranked as the 102nd rated prospect.
And speaking of their Big Board and centers...they have JMS ranked 60th and there's a lot of decent center prospects projected to go in the range of our 3rd round pick, so I don't see any reason to reach on a center early if we lose Bradbury
The hype train has left the station on this kid. Tell me a few NFL GMs won't be able to help themselves and make him a top 5-7 pick in round 1? Happens every year, regardless of whether he flames out as a pro or not.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/insid...king-comps
Quote: @supafreak84 said:
@ mgobluevikes said:
@ MaroonBells said:
@ dadevike said:
@ purplefaithful said:
On Monday, Keith Sanchez of The Draft Network released his latest mock draft, in which he helped the Vikings out by having them select Minnesota Gophers center, John Michael Schmitz.
“John Michael Schmitz was one of the biggest risers after the Senior Bowl and the Vikings desperately need a versatile interior offensive lineman to upgrade that position. The Vikings need to add an element of toughness to their offense to be able to impose their will running the football. Schmitz should help them do both things.”
While not a splashy pick, this would definitely fill a need for the Vikings and give them stability at the center position for the next decade or more. Schmitz has incredible strength and is a technician with his hands and footwork. He should thrive wherever he is picked.
It’s also noteworthy that Schmitz’s agent is former Vikings offensive lineman Jeremiah Sirles.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/the-draft-network-sends-gophers-center-to-the-vikings-in-latest-mock-draft/ar-AA17JuSD?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=1fe72b95dabe481e9a4eed67b9e99f6f
I would really hate that pick. I will bet that the history of first round centers is bleak to awful. I wonder if anyone would like this pick if the player had not played his college ball in Minnesota. Nothing against Schmitz; I saw him at the Senior Bowl practices. He's very good. But he's a Center. Hard pass for me.
He's got a lot in common with Bradbury. Both outside zone centers, identical in size, reach blocking specialists. But this is what I call the "green grass" period, where every draft pick and everyone else's free agents are better than the ones we've already got.
To me there are some pretty easy decisions to make on the roster, but Bradbury isn't one of them. This one's all about the money. I don't want to spend a ton of money on him and I absolutely don't want to commit to him long-term. But the LAST thing we need is a downgrade at the position, which is pretty easy to do if we're not careful.
Not exactly identical in size. Schmitz outweighs Brabury by 20 lbs and an inch taller.
Any thoughts on your guy Mazi Smith? Have seen some different rankings on him. GBN just updated their big board and have him ranked as the 102nd rated prospect.
Know you weren't asking me, but I like Mazi. If they re-sign Tomlinson he becomes too repetitive for the Vikings. Really stout today but with the physical attributes he has a lot of upside as a pass rusher if he can pull it all together. More of a 2nd round guy than 1st, but could see him being better in the NFL.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Wait, you mean the plays in the highlight videos didn't represent everything he's done? A good reminder. I still like the upside vs. the downside on Richardson. But the top 5 talk is probably getting a little out of control.
Quote: @"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Wait, you mean the plays in the highlight videos didn't represent everything he's done? A good reminder. I still like the upside vs. the downside on Richardson. But the top 5 talk is probably getting a little out of control.
I wish there were more balance in draft takes. It's hard to find with so many aggressively pro or anti takes. And there are so many clips of QBs standing in the pocket with all day to throw, throwing a strike to a receiver who's got 10 yards of separation. It's worthless. It says nothing. But still they rave.
I like AR's upside too. It's huge. But I'm not so sure it's all that much higher than Hooker's, whom you can probably get 30 picks later. But I think you could make an argument that AR's floor is probably a little higher than Hooker's.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
@"Geoff Nichols" said:
@ MaroonBells said:
Wait, you mean the plays in the highlight videos didn't represent everything he's done? A good reminder. I still like the upside vs. the downside on Richardson. But the top 5 talk is probably getting a little out of control.
I wish there were more balance in draft takes. It's hard to find with so many aggressively pro or anti takes. And there are so many clips of QBs standing in the pocket with all day to throw, throwing a strike to a receiver who's got 10 yards of separation. It's worthless. It says nothing. But still they rave.
I like AR's upside too. It's huge. But I'm not so sure it's all that much higher than Hooker's, whom you can probably get 30 picks later. But I think you could make an argument that AR's floor is probably a little higher than Hooker's.
Everyone probably knows this, but if you go into youtube and search for "Players Name vs" they'll usually give you every throw, reception, or rushing attempt for that player for a whole game so you can see the good and the bad. The popular teams/players have a bunch and no name schools are pretty sparse.
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
Richardson is like Justin Fields light....as in, he's the same type of athlete (maybe better), but he is worse as a passer by a large margin and really needs to land in a good situation where he can be developed by a coach who can actually develop a QB. He drove most Florida fans crazy with his decision making and accuracy issues. Like I said, you are either getting Cam Newton or Logan Thomas with him, with not much room for in between. Boom or bust. Would I be upset if the Vikings took a swing at him, no I wouldn't...but I think he is starting to overtake Levis on some teams boards as the 3rd QB and the chances of him being available are slim. I think all four QB's will be off the board by Houston's second pick at #12.
Richardson will be the next Jamarcus Russell.
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