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I want off the Cousins ride
#41
Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins was uncharacteristically erratic against the Jets, but when his team faced a gut-check moment he put his toughness on display.A play-action fake gave Kirk Cousins plenty of time to sit inside a clean pocket and look downfield. His target, tight end T.J. Hockenson, got behind his defender and was open.

Cousins usually completes that pass in his sleep.
He sailed the ball over Hockenson's head this time, incomplete. Cousins bent over at the waist, hands on his knees. His disgust was not hard to decipher.
The Vikings quarterback called that pass "the most egregious miss" on a day when his pinpoint accuracy went sideways.
Cousins was uncharacteristically erratic throwing the ball. He absorbed a handful of jarring hits. The offense sputtered and turned stagnantAnd when the Vikings offense faced a gut-check moment in the fourth quarter, the quarterback put his toughness on display again by engineering a touchdown drive that was a necessary outcome in what became a 27-22 win over the New York Jets.

Cousins showed a surgeon's precision on that drive, completing five of five passes for 62 yards. On third-and-6 from the 10, Cousins threaded a needle to the No. 4 option in his progression — Justin Jefferson — along the side of the end zone to stretch the lead to 27-15.
"That's how you win football games in this league," Vikings coach Kevin O'Connell said. "We don't win this game unless we get that seven points there."
Cousins had a peculiar outing. He misfired on throws he normally completes. His timing with receivers occasionally looked hurried by the Jets pass rush. The operation just seemed off in the second half.
But the main takeaway is the toughness that Cousins continues to exhibit. Mental toughness, physical toughness.
He is making winning plays when required, and he keeps picking himself off the turf after violent hits.
Right tackle Brian O'Neill apologized for using an expletive while praising his quarterback's toughness.
"He's a beast," O'Neill said. "He hangs in there. He doesn't complain. He's the ultimate competitor, ultimate team leader. He has my respect for years and years."
Does Cousins ever look or sound shaken in the huddle after being steamrolled by a pass rusher?
"He doesn't show it," O'Neill said. "He doesn't flinch. He's keeping us calm in the huddle. He's the man – No. 8 is the man."
Cousins' durability remains an underrated part of his career. He has endured some cringe-worthy hits this season after holding the ball in the pocket to buy his receivers extra seconds to finish a route.
Pass rushers unload on him. Cousins pops back up.
He credits his "bodywork people" that he visits weekly for helping him get his body repaired and ready to play again.
"I say, 'Hey, I'm in a car accident every week and you've got to put me back together on Monday,' " Cousin said. "It's kind of like getting an oil change. You get put back together and get ready for the next car accident."
Cousins doesn't shy away from an occasional fender-bender. On third-and-9 in the second quarter, he took off running, lowered his pads to initiate contact and then got popped by a second Jets defender.
"I felt I had to get every yard I could," Cousins said.
He didn't slide and gained 11 yards. The Vikings finished the drive with a touchdown.
"That [run] gave us a little bit of juice in that moment," O'Connell said.
Cousins said postgame that he feels fine physically. He attributed his throwing inaccuracy to the Jets pass rush and having his own internal clock sped up.
"There's going to be days like that," O'Connell said.
Cousins addressed the team in the locker room after the game and shared a mantra that he heard repeatedly from former Washington coach Mike Shanahan as a young quarterback.
His message: Tough times don't last. Tough people do.
"I believe strongly in that," Cousins said. "I felt like this game in a way was a little bit of a microcosm of that."
The quarterback has bumps and bruises to prove it. And another win.
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#42
I do think that Cousins is clearly off lately and he is
clearly taking a lot of hits several weeks in a row.  I think this is on O’Connell to help him out
a bit.  It kind of feels like we’ve got
our one offense that we run out there, and since our players are so good, we
just haven’t had to put any effort into tweaking it at all.  I feel like they should really be emphasizing
the run game more and plays that get the ball out of his hand quickly.  We have the skill position talent to get open
quickly, so I feel like that should be on the menu for times when our OLine isn’t
as steadfast as it should be.
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#43
Quote: @MaroonBells said:
That was the worst I've seen Cousins play since the Cleveland game last year. He couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle. But not every bad game needs to turn into an existential debate. Every QB has bad days. Rodgers has had several. Brady, Allen, Mahomes.
Exactly what I was thinking during the game Smile
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#44
I think all the chains are weighing on Kirk.  He should play unchained but then I don't know if the kid in the crowd will get bullied just going shirtless?

I don't think I need to express my opinion on Kirk on every Kirk thread so I will just cut to the facts:

For better or worse Kirk is our QB for the next two years and maybe more.

Discussion should start about a succession plan this offseason and I want us looking very closely at the first round QB class.  
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#45
If we’re handing out a who’s on a milk carton this year awards. Lets add Cook to it. Dude hasn’t done anything all year save the Bills game. 
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#46
Quote: @AGRforever said:
If we’re handing out a who’s on a milk carton this year awards. Lets add Cook to it. Dude hasn’t done anything all year save the Bills game. 
I was bagging on Cook too in the PFF Jets thread...

Then I posted his 21 vs 22 to-date:

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Edit Interesting to compare vs 21:

22: 198/927/4.7/7 tds, 28 receptions/157/1 td
21: 249/1159/4.7/6 tds, 34 receptions/224/0 td


Doesnt look like he's dropped off much vs 21, I would have thought with KOC that the receiving would be much higher vs 21 
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#47
Before this year: Kirk sucks. The way to judge a quarterback is by wins, not stats.This year: Kirk sucks. Yeah, we keep winning, but not by enough points.
Next year: this could turn into a fun game. Lets play Why Kirk Sucks, 2023 edition.

I am going to go with, last year at this time we had 10 wins. He's obviously spent.
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#48
Quote: @wiviking said:
Before this year: Kirk sucks. The way to judge a quarterback is by wins, not stats.This year: Kirk sucks. Yeah, we keep winning, but not by enough points.
Next year: this could turn into a fun game. Lets play Why Kirk Sucks, 2023 edition.

I am going to go with, last year at this time we had 10 wins. He's obviously spent.

What great about this team is KOC isn't going anywhere.  Our playcaller will be the same for the foreseeable future. 

Heck, I'd be willing to bet Donatell doesn't go anywhere either. Get some youth on D and see where that takes us.
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#49
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@wiviking said:
Before this year: Kirk sucks. The way to judge a quarterback is by wins, not stats.This year: Kirk sucks. Yeah, we keep winning, but not by enough points.
Next year: this could turn into a fun game. Lets play Why Kirk Sucks, 2023 edition.

I am going to go with, last year at this time we had 10 wins. He's obviously spent.

What great about this team is KOC isn't going anywhere.  Our playcaller will be the same for the foreseeable future. 

Heck, I'd be willing to bet Donatell doesn't go anywhere either. Get some youth on D and see where that takes us.
you're gonna get the youth,  but with minimal draft picks and no cap space (especially after another KC extension (I am expecting an offseason rework that add a couple more years) that kicks more dead cap on future years ) what will that youth look like?  We added youth this year and have about 100 snaps total between 5 of our top 6 draft picks.  as fun as this season has been to watch,  I am not overly confident in our spending of late and see some rough years coming fairly soon,  they can fix it pretty quickly,  but will they?
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