Quote: @AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
Quote: @purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Rand Paul is about the only person left that asks how we're going to pay for stuff and yet I couldn't have disagreed with him more on Covid. I'm as dovish on foreign policy as anyone you'll ever find.
The Republicans don't represent what I believe in and neither do the Democrats. I'm tired of both parties doing things that are in no ones best interest.....quite frankly I want divided government. It seems they do less harm when at least one party holds 1 of 3.
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Rand Paul is about the only person left that asks how we're going to pay for stuff and yet I couldn't have disagreed with him more on Covid. I'm as dovish on foreign policy as anyone you'll ever find.
The Republicans don't represent what I believe in and neither do the Democrats. I'm tired of both parties doing things that are in no ones best interest.....quite frankly I want divided government. It seems they do less harm when at least one party holds 1 of 3.
either that or we need to increase the voting requirements to do anything that spends a dime of tax dollars and a whole bunch more regulations. I think both parties voters should be ready to say FUCK OFF to deficit spending and never ending federal debt.
Quote: @JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Rand Paul is about the only person left that asks how we're going to pay for stuff and yet I couldn't have disagreed with him more on Covid. I'm as dovish on foreign policy as anyone you'll ever find.
The Republicans don't represent what I believe in and neither do the Democrats. I'm tired of both parties doing things that are in no ones best interest.....quite frankly I want divided government. It seems they do less harm when at least one party holds 1 of 3.
either that or we need to increase the voting requirements to do anything that spends a dime of tax dollars and a whole bunch more regulations. I think both parties voters should be ready to say FUCK OFF to deficit spending and never ending federal debt. See thats the thing. Both parties promise shit that we'll never pay for. I don't know how it ends without ending very very badly for regular citizens and I'm pretty sure the longer we go the worse it'll be. I'm pretty resourceful, so I think I'll be ok myself but I work with some kids these days that know absolutely nothing. True story we had a teenager out 17ish a couple weeks ago to do some work. (book smart gal) She didn't know how to operate a wheelbarrow. She tried to pick it up and carry it........I mean damn, watch some Mister Rogers or something. Surely, at some point there was a movie or commercial that showed how to obtain your wheelbarrow license.
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@ AGRforever said:
@ StickyBun said:
@ Skodin said:
Economic despair and mental illness are the fire
Guns are gasoline
America's a mess for a million reasons
Its the isolation, its starts there. But now you have social media to validate your crazed thoughts. Younger, white males mostly. Disenfranchised....no girlfriends....no lives. Easily manipulated and radicalized. Nothing to belong to and no feeling of belonging. Misguided hatred. Once you feel truly hopeless, what else matters?
If you don't know what 4chan is, look it up. The worst of the worst.
Thats what you got out of the picture? Really?
Disfranchised white people are running around shooting people up?
Maybe we should question why 6.5ish% of the population is commiting +50% of the murders in this country.
Are crazy people a problem. Abso-fucking-loutley. But they come in all shades.
Not disagreeing with you on racism being blanketed across the US on every issue but . .
If this was a black man, who shot up a specifically white neighborhood and had an internet history that (what has been discussed, I haven't seen this confirmed) was hateful towards the race that he intended to kill, you could easily say he was racist.
This douchebag was mentally ill, prey for bad ideology, and his motivations seem to be squarely racist.
No different than the Chinese man who just shot up a Taiwanese church in California.
Racism can be a motivation but it's not a motivation for everything (nor many of the mass shootings in the US).
You know what I don't see? I don't see the likes of MSNBC, CNN, Politico running tv/video/articles/blogs about how all Chinese are racist because one Chinese dude shot up a church.
You know what I did see? There were articles about how all Republicans were racist. There's been all kinds of stuff about white privilege. And now some bullshit that I'd guess most of us have never heard of but are some how all guilty of....."replacement theory".
I doubt there's too many of us who haven't heard of replacement theory. Especially after Charlottesville.
I'll just say that I'm happy to hear you don't watch Tucker Carlson. He supposedly has mentioned it on 400 episodes.
Not once have I heard of it. Had no idea it was a thing. Still don't think its a thing. It sure sounds like some boogeyman that was made up in the effort to shame white people for being white.
After that, isn't replacement what we're all striving for? I found a mate and replaced myself to carry on our genetic background. Every living being on the planet has been doing it since the beginning of time.
No, it's the exact opposite. It says that white people around the world are being systematically replaced by non-white people. It leads to anger, resentment toward people of color, white victimization and islamophobia.
So by that, these racist conservatives should be supporting planned parenthood in your mind?
Zero clue what this means.
I think he means that since the majority of abortions performed in this country are on women of color. The founder of Planned Parenthood openly and proudly admitted she started the organization to stop the proliferation of black people in the U.S. Margaret Sanger was a terrible racist. Hence, he asks if racist conservatives should support Planned Parenthood so they keep aborting babies of color? I think that is what he means.
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolit...population
Hahaha, a fact check from taxpayer funded NPR to whitewash the image of taxpayer funded PP.
You guys are going to put satire writers out of business. Sanger was a huge eugenics fan. Can't make this shit up.
RIGHT?? GOOD GRIEF!
Quote: @AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Rand Paul is about the only person left that asks how we're going to pay for stuff and yet I couldn't have disagreed with him more on Covid. I'm as dovish on foreign policy as anyone you'll ever find.
The Republicans don't represent what I believe in and neither do the Democrats. I'm tired of both parties doing things that are in no ones best interest.....quite frankly I want divided government. It seems they do less harm when at least one party holds 1 of 3.
either that or we need to increase the voting requirements to do anything that spends a dime of tax dollars and a whole bunch more regulations. I think both parties voters should be ready to say FUCK OFF to deficit spending and never ending federal debt. See thats the thing. Both parties promise shit that we'll never pay for. I don't know how it ends without ending very very badly for regular citizens and I'm pretty sure the longer we go the worse it'll be. I'm pretty resourceful, so I think I'll be ok myself but I work with some kids these days that know absolutely nothing. True story we had a teenager out 17ish a couple weeks ago to do some work. (book smart gal) She didn't know how to operate a wheelbarrow. She tried to pick it up and carry it........I mean damn, watch some Mister Rogers or something. Surely, at some point there was a movie or commercial that showed how to obtain your wheelbarrow license.
Because both parties are basically different sides of the same coin. The parties are NOT a part of government. They are, however, government sanctioned monopolies. Political parties have perverted the process. If the federal government did NOT have so much control and take so much money from us via taxation it would NOT attract these people.
Quote: @Chuckf said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ JimmyinSD said:
@ AGRforever said:
@ purplefaithful said:
@ AGRforever said:
I’m not convinced that your average democrat isnt just as racist as your average republican.
Which is to say that there are racist people and political party has next to nothing to do with it. With that said. Theres also plenty of people who do identify with a political party, who dont have a racest bone in them.
We like to paint with broad brushes no doubt.
The issue (for me) is the primary mouthpieces for both parties is echoing the extremes these days. Then throw gas on the fire with social media and too many "news" networks preaching their own dogma.
Hell, I am a conservative fiscally (yup, I voted for R. Reagan), when it comes to foreign policy and swing more liberal with a # of issues we face at home.
The world is just far from black and white.
I'm a fiscal conservative. Rand Paul is about the only person left that asks how we're going to pay for stuff and yet I couldn't have disagreed with him more on Covid. I'm as dovish on foreign policy as anyone you'll ever find.
The Republicans don't represent what I believe in and neither do the Democrats. I'm tired of both parties doing things that are in no ones best interest.....quite frankly I want divided government. It seems they do less harm when at least one party holds 1 of 3.
either that or we need to increase the voting requirements to do anything that spends a dime of tax dollars and a whole bunch more regulations. I think both parties voters should be ready to say FUCK OFF to deficit spending and never ending federal debt. See thats the thing. Both parties promise shit that we'll never pay for. I don't know how it ends without ending very very badly for regular citizens and I'm pretty sure the longer we go the worse it'll be. I'm pretty resourceful, so I think I'll be ok myself but I work with some kids these days that know absolutely nothing. True story we had a teenager out 17ish a couple weeks ago to do some work. (book smart gal) She didn't know how to operate a wheelbarrow. She tried to pick it up and carry it........I mean damn, watch some Mister Rogers or something. Surely, at some point there was a movie or commercial that showed how to obtain your wheelbarrow license.
Because both parties are basically different sides of the same coin. The parties are NOT a part of government. They are, however, government sanctioned monopolies. Political parties have perverted the process. If the federal government did NOT have so much control and take so much money from us via taxation it would NOT attract these people.
Same coin makes it sound like one is on each side of said coin. Theres so little difference between the two that I’m not sure they arent on the same side of that coin.
Unfortunatley, we’re the other side of the coin and they get unlimited flips until they get their desired results.
Either you care more about guns.....or you care more about kids. There's no other direction. If we can't get bipartisan action on this, what could we ever get it on?
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Either you care more about guns.....or you care more about kids. There's no other direction. If we can't get bipartisan action on this, what could we ever get it on?
Nothing, absolutely nothing.
There are too many people in this country that should never be allowed to own a firearm and do.
Too many people who need mental health care that can't get it.
Quote: @StickyBun said:
Either you care more about guns.....or you care more about kids. There's no other direction. If we can't get bipartisan action on this, what could we ever get it on?
If you want to ban guns, the procedure is quite simple. Gather enough support and amend the constitution. There really isnt another option.
Guns are quite clearly guaranteed as a right of citizenship. Some people hold guns in quite high esteem, much in the same way that many hold the other less controversial amendments. So short of changing the law of the land, I dont know what you’re plan is?
I’m fine with limiting magazines and background checks but from early reports it sounds like this kid stole the guns?
As for making a statement of “its the kids or the guns”. You know thats bullshit. You know whos not shooting people? 99.99% of the legal gun owners. Crazy people are going to do crazy things. I don’t know how infringing on law abiding citizens rights are going to stop someone dead set on causing mass casualties?
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